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VW Phaeton
Has anyone heard about this monstorsity yet? It's coming out next year to compete with the higher end BMWs and Mecedes. It has a 414hp V12, which it will certainly need to push its own huge fat ***. (It weighs over 5,000 lbs!!!) Price range is $60,000- $90,000!!! Here's a pic.


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Pffff.... how weak.
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...2s.xml?&page=1
Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 2- or 4-door sedan
Estimated base price: $120,000-$124,000
Engines: twin-turbocharged and intercooled SOHC 36-valve 5.5-liter V-12, 493 hp, 590 lb-ft
Transmission 5-speed automatic with lockup torque converter
Wheelbase 113.6-121.5 in
Length 196.6-203.3 in
Width 73.0-73.1 in
Height 55.0-56.9 in
Curb weight 4150-4500
Manufacturer's performance ratings:
Zero to 62 mph 4.8 sec
Top speed (governor limited) 155 mph
AND it weighs less then that overpriced VW.
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...2s.xml?&page=1
Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 2- or 4-door sedan
Estimated base price: $120,000-$124,000
Engines: twin-turbocharged and intercooled SOHC 36-valve 5.5-liter V-12, 493 hp, 590 lb-ft
Transmission 5-speed automatic with lockup torque converter
Wheelbase 113.6-121.5 in
Length 196.6-203.3 in
Width 73.0-73.1 in
Height 55.0-56.9 in
Curb weight 4150-4500
Manufacturer's performance ratings:
Zero to 62 mph 4.8 sec
Top speed (governor limited) 155 mph
AND it weighs less then that overpriced VW.
I sure wish my car was newer
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I don't think its that bad. Its still no 5-series BMW, but I'd take one. Also, my dad's friend from a local VW dealer said VW only plans to sell like 3,000 of them the first year (worldwide.) So, I don't think its going to make or break the company. The plan is basically to test the waters.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Jon
isn't the mclaren a v12? wtf is this luxury car doing with that type of engine? talk about having to put gas every 5 miles
i do think it looks nice, but damn it doesn't sound right[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Jon
isn't the mclaren a v12? wtf is this luxury car doing with that type of engine? talk about having to put gas every 5 miles
i do think it looks nice, but damn it doesn't sound right[hr]
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?
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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]I don't think I'd touch one for a while. Apparantly it's a twin V engine. Two V-6's side by side. How the hell they made that fit[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG], but sounds like more to go wrong if you ask me.
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[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
Ahh yes. More ignorance....
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
Ahh yes. More ignorance....
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: ZMan2k2
[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]I don't think I'd touch one for a while. Apparantly it's a twin V engine. Two V-6's side by side. How the hell they made that fit[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG], but sounds like more to go wrong if you ask me.
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[hr]Originally posted by: ZMan2k2
[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]I don't think I'd touch one for a while. Apparantly it's a twin V engine. Two V-6's side by side. How the hell they made that fit[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG], but sounds like more to go wrong if you ask me.
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<YAWN> The looks really bore me... what a cure for insomnia! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] What a worthless investment for overpriced VWs. For that price, I would buy a Lexus or Mercedes and not be concerned with VW's poor quality and reliability.

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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
I volunteer my car for the first engine swap.
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
I volunteer my car for the first engine swap.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Jon
i now see that from joe's article but thx for being a complete *** hole in letting me know
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[hr]Originally posted by: Jon
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[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
Ahh yes. More ignorance....
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
Ahh yes. More ignorance....
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
No, thanks. Whatever VW makes, I do not want. I will keep my reliable, non-gas guzzling engine. My engine will beat this every time since a VW spends most of its time being repaired.
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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
I volunteer my car for the first engine swap.
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
I volunteer my car for the first engine swap.
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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
No, thanks. Whatever VW makes, I do not want. I will keep my reliable, non-gas guzzling engine. My engine will beat this every time since a VW spends most of its time being repaired.
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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRyder
No, thanks. Whatever VW makes, I do not want. I will keep my reliable, non-gas guzzling engine. My engine will beat this every time since a VW spends most of its time being repaired.
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[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
That's how i do it : )[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
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[hr]Originally posted by: Jon
i now see that from joe's article but thx for being a complete *** hole in letting me know
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[hr]Originally posted by: Jon
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[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
Ahh yes. More ignorance....
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: nytejade
Ahh yes. More ignorance....
A lot of luxury cars have engines with 12 cylinders. There are many reasons for this also. Do some research before you put something down.
It'll probably come out as an Audi. Is it confirmed that it's coming out?[hr]
ok, maybe not a common engine, but certinly more affordable, less than 100k for that vw, when before you had to spend about 150k on the benz or bmw.
that S600 must be a dream for RENNtech
those twin turbos can be upgraded as well as getting an air-to-air intercooler up front. and run that car at higher boost... i'd be scared of the 1/4 times on that car
those twin turbos can be upgraded as well as getting an air-to-air intercooler up front. and run that car at higher boost... i'd be scared of the 1/4 times on that car
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