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The VQ will be boosted....

This is straight out of the mouth of the sales manager at my local Nissan dealer.
For those of you who don't know, the VQ35DE engine is the V6 that powers the Altima (240 HP), Maxima/I35 (255HP), the G35 (265 Sedan/280 Coupe), and the 350 Z (287).
Well, now as expected, it's going to aquire a pair of turbochargers (VQ35DETT) in 2005 and find its way under the hood of the Z. Then probably make an appearance with AWD in the next skyline in 06. Skyline pricing and possible sale in the US are still unknown, but in Z form, expect around 425-450 HP and a tag in the low-mid 40's. Nissan Rules...
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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Regardless of what a Nissan sales manager says, Nissan themselves have said that the engine will not go FI. It's an all motor platform, and for the time being Nissan plans to keep it that way.

The only changes due at this time for the 350Z is an increase in HP in 2006. But again, in N/A form. Probably in the area of 300+ hp.
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daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, that car is going to be fast as shat
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I can't wait to get out of college and buy a Z....or 2.
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Now, i dont know if this is true or not, but someone was telling me that there is twin turbo verison of the 350z motor going into the new infinity. Its probably not true but oh well.
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heheheeh nothing owns.. the R34...
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I read a rumour that the new R35 will have the VQ35DETT. The R35 is related to both the 350Z and the G35 Coupe but if they release the R35, expect the 350Z and G35 not to get the same engine.
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[hr]Originally posted by: vicLX
heheheeh nothing owns.. the R34...[hr]
Well, how about the Z06? Viper SRT-10? 2003 Mustang Cobra? The R34 is not that amazing of a stock car when you compare it against pure american muscle! Now, if you compare modified cars, well, the RB26DETT has a lot of potential. The RB26DETT can support over 600 HP on the stock internals. However, it's the twin turbos that have to be upgraded to achieve anything over 500+HP. Replacing both turbos is quite expensive and most people also replace the internals at the same time. Sure, you can get over 1000HP out of the RB26DETT but how much would it cost you and what kind of gas would you be running? Just a little info, a mildly modified R33(around the 450HP mark) will only get 5-6 mpg on the track and about 12-15mpg on the street. Highway driving will bring it up to around 24mpg as long as the speed limits are followed. Another downside to the car is that the engine is designed to run best with 100 octane gas or as close to(97 or 98 octane). The new R35 will definitly own all though because it will be LHD and sold in North America.

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The japanese 100 octane is measured using i believe research (tends to be higher) octane only. The octane ratings in the US are the average of research and motor (tends to be lower) octanes, hence the lower numbers at the pump for the same gas.

That's why you can import an R34 from Motorex and not have it blow up.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Neonmike
The japanese 100 octane is measured using i believe research (tends to be higher) octane only. The octane ratings in the US are the average of research and motor (tends to be lower) octanes, hence the lower numbers at the pump for the same gas.

That's why you can import an R34 from Motorex and not have it blow up.[hr]
You're telling me that their 100 octane is equivalent to our 92 octane? Not likely. The only time the octane numbers come into play is under high boost applications. Sure, the R34 will run but it runs rough and when pushed hard, slight pinging is evident. The current WRX also encounters slight pinging when pushed hard. The pinging is not fatal(well, no pinging is safe but...) to the engine but remember, the engine is stock and upping the boost will only make the pinging worse. I know I can't afford to drive on race gas and octane boost wrecks the O2 sensors...
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[hr]Originally posted by: APS
I'll believe it when I see it.[hr]
yup. OFFICIAL owrd from nissan is that the 350Z will get a bump in power to 300BHP, but thsts about it.
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" The only time the octane numbers come into play is under high boost applications."

coughcoughCOMPRESSIONcough....
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
" The only time the octane numbers come into play is under high boost applications."

coughcoughCOMPRESSIONcough....[hr]
Sorry, I was refrencing the R34 and I should have clarified it. I just assumed it was obvious.

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i think the new r35, if it comes here, will be very competitive in the sports car market, but definitely not "own all".
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Okay, what they promise about the new R35 - 400HP, CD of &lt; 0.27, and AWD. The new R35 is going to compete against Ferrari, Z06, Viper SRT-10 and all the other supercars out there. Nissan wants the skyline to be considered as a supercar.
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you guys are the center of misinformation. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]


here are some facts.

It might look like a svelte and stylish coup&eacute; with a luxury interior, but underneath the smooth lines of this US-built Infiniti G35 lies the underpinnings of Nissan's GT-R supercar, due in 2004.

More details of the Japanese monster machine have been revealed by the firm's vice-president of product planning, Patrick Pilata, who spoke exclusively to Auto Express at a secret unveiling of the new 350Z convertible. He also said that plans to power the Skyline replacement with a twin-turbo 4.5-litre V8 engine had been dropped.

Instead, the GT-R will come with a twin turbo version of the 3.5-litre V6 found in the new G35, modified to develop 400bhp. This means stunning performance, and with more than 420lbs of torque the car is expected to sprint from 0-60mph in around 4.5 seconds and have a top speed of 190mph. As for the 350z, expect Nismo to release an aftermarket ECU, Exhaust and intake.

We are estimating an increase to about 320 hp at the engine. This should prove good competition to the rumored 320 hp Boxster Turbo, 2004/5 Supra, Honda 2200 Coupe and Rx-8.
If the 2004/5 Supra, has more power than expected, a detuned twin or single turbo engine from GTR has been discussed for the 350z.

The new G35, which may be sold here, features a six-speed automatic gearbox and rear-wheel drive, but both of these will be absent from the machine it will share its chassis with. Instead, the forth- coming GT-R gets a six-speed manual shift and four-wheel-drive layout that's similar to the current Skyline GT-R's. It will also use computer-aided suspension which adapts automatically to the road and driving style.
Sadly, plans to give the GT-R an eight- speed CVT gearbox, as seen in the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show GT-R concept, appear to have been shelved. No transmission unit of this type has yet been built which can cope with the car's huge power output. But one thing that won't change is the GT-R's dramatic styling, which has been heavily influenced by last year's prototype. Expect the Us price for the GTR to range from about $55,000- $60,000.

Although the exact look has still to be confirmed, Nissan says buyers can expect huge airdams, round tail-lights and a wild bodykit. Meanwhile, the firm hasn't ruled out a UK debut for the G35, as luxury models are notably absent from the company's British range. As of US, expect eitheir a V8 NA GTR or a Japan spec twin turbo GTR. Research is being conducted with US car buyer on certain via survey and internet forums to see if US buyers would rather have V8 or Twin Turbo engine with the same amount of Hp.

If the new Micra and Primera boost sales sufficiently, the Infiniti brand could come here with the coup&eacute; as its flagship, while the 240bhp 3.5-litre V6 G35 saloon, on sale in the US since last year, may also join the line-up.
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Exactly where was I wrong? First off, I got the 400HP right. Next, you forgot to mention they plan to have a COD of less than 0.27 which would surpass the Z06. And, finally "is expected" doesn't mean concrete proof about it's performance.
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sorry but this will be nothing close to a supercar.
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Ferrari Enzo: 0 - 60 in 3.5 seconds with a top speed of 217mph.
Saleen S7: 0-60mph in under 4 seconds, top speed of 200mph.
Vector M12: 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, top speed of 190mph
Lamborghini Murcielago: 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, top speed of 205 mph
Porsche 911 GT2: 0-60 4.0 seconds, top speed of 196mph
Porsche 911 GT1: 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, top speed of 174mph
Ultima Spyder: 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, top speed of 175mph

I beg to differ about it being a super car, falls right in there with other super cars...

Now, the 2002 Corvette Z06 has 405HP and 400ft-lbs and does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds... Interesting that the R35 will have 400HP, 420ft-lbs of torque and AWD and not be considered a supercar and it has an estimated 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds... What, is it the price the bothers you? Or how common it will be? Or the fact that it can keep up to something more than 3 times it price? Please enlighten me.
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super cars dont just go fast in a straight line. thats what makes them "super"

and the Z06 corners at over 1.01g.. STOCK, id say that already puts it a step towards the "super" department. only thing it lacks is rarity.
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so by your reasoning a modified LT1 or LS1 is a supercar. there is a lot more to it then just how fast it is, the overall balance and quality come into play. Are skylines fast yes, are they on the same level with a porsche GT2, Enzo Ferrai, Mcalaren, M3 GTR hell no. these are a completely different class. Its in the same class as a RX-7, Supra.
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I would definatly not say that it's in the same class as an RX7 or RX8, or a supra. That's what the Z cars are for (300ZX to compete with the old supra, and RX7, 350Z to compete with the new supra, which will be out soon, and the RX8). sorry, but the Skyline is pretty damn close to a supercar. an M3 GTR is a race car, that's a completely different class. The Enzo. Is the best car made by a company that deals only in super exotics, and they will only produce about 300 units. McLaren F1, didn't they only build 30 of those things. The Porsche GT2, is the only thing you can compare it to, price wise and availability at least, but it's still nothing more than a street legal car, built specifically for the track. And the R35 won't perform quite as well. but isn't it cheaper too?
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They might turbo charge it.. but I'll also believe it, only when I see it.

Nissan sales man??? WTF does that car selling a*****e know anyway? Hey, I have a lot of people I know that are car salesmen.. they don't know SQUAT. Even I get info earlier then they do from Motor Trend.

If they DO turbocharge it.. it will definitely be close to 400HP, and definitely put up a fight with Corvette, Porsche 911 Carrera and Mustang Cobra. Hmmmmmmm..... interesting.

I wonder how Toyota & Honda will respond? Toyota apparently has a V6 and a V8 Supra in works. Honda could make a more powerful S2000........... or not. Since that car really competes with Boxsters, SLKs, Z4s and it's roadster only. Unless they do something affordable with next gen Acura NSX. They can stop going after Ferrari, and start going after Corvettes.
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so by your reasoning a modified LT1 or LS1 is a supercar. there is a lot more to it then just how fast it is, the overall balance and quality come into play. Are skylines fast yes, are they on the same level with a porsche GT2, Enzo Ferrai, Mcalaren, M3 GTR hell no. these are a completely different class. Its in the same class as a RX-7, Supra.[hr]
How much do you really know about the skylines in general? From what I can tell, not very much at all. The first skyline was produced in 1955 and in 1964, it was introduced into the GT-class racing and raced in the Japanese Gran Prix that year. This was the start to a long successful racing history. No need to fill you on the details.... The R32 GT-R was the beginning of the Skyline as most people know it. It was designed for Group A racing in Japan, and it's engine (RB26DETT) had to be factory de-tuned to meet race series standards. Now, throw in the fact that it had ATTESA-ETS (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All - Electronic Torque Split), an electronically controlled all-wheel-drive system that usually delivers the power to the rear- wheels, but can send up to 50% of the torque to the front wheels) and Super HICAS steering, made the car unstoppable in the corners. The R32 owned the Group A race series and was abolished to let other manufacturers have a chance. Now, if it was abolished from racing against RX-7s, supras, 300zxs, etc... How can you say it is in the same class when it was too fast for even them If any of the R32-R34 were not factory de-tuned to meet race requirements, they would have been quite competive to all other cars(including supercars) out there. The R33 put out around 360HP(before de-tuned) and a midly tuned could easily see 500HP. That would have made it competive against majority of the supercars in the market in 1995. Now, how you can not say it's a supercar? First off, it has race heritage. Secondly, it meets your "balance" and "quality" for a supercar. And thirdly, it has the performance of a supercar(before the factory de-tuned them).

Now, I leave you with this fact:

The GT-R34 held the Track Record for production cars at the N&uuml;rburgring Northloop, the most difficult racetrack of the world, until the Porsche 996 Turbo came along.

Still not conviced it's a supercar?

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1st off i know how old a skyline is dont try to come off as some car know it all when you have no idea what i know, Skylines have always been a 4dr family car with the GTR just being a sports model. also why were rotorys banned from pretty much all racing events, yea thats right they were too damn fast and no one could basicly keep up with them. Next if you watched Speed you would have seen the R34 on N&uuml;rburgring basicly got worked and then some by a Viper and 4 other cars.


And for the clown saying the M3 GTR is a race car think again BMW has to put the car into production to keep racing it otherwise they have to stop using the V8 to compete.
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[hr]Originally posted by: SuperNegro
1st off i know how old a skyline is dont try to come off as some car know it all when you have no idea what i know, Skylines have always been a 4dr family car with the GTR just being a sports model. also why were rotorys banned from pretty much all racing events, yea thats right they were too damn fast and no one could basicly keep up with them. Next if you watched Speed you would have seen the R34 on N&uuml;rburgring basicly got worked and then some by a Viper and 4 other cars.


And for the clown saying the M3 GTR is a race car think again BMW has to put the car into production to keep racing it otherwise they have to stop using the V8 to compete.[hr]
You truly don't know the history of the skyline. Sure, it's first introduction in 1955 was both a 4dr sedan and a station wagon. However, the first skyline coupe came out in the early 60s. The first skyline GT-R was introduced in 1969! So, saying that they have always been 4dr family vehicles is WRONG! Okay, what year was the rotories banned from racing? Do you even know why? Maybe reliability was an issue as well? Hmm...

As for the R34, it is factory DETUNED. I thought maybe you got the "just of it" but I guess you didn't. The RB26DETT made around 360+HP before they detuned it. So, how about we take a viper and detune it to 280HP and see how it fairs? How about a 996 turbo stuck at 280HP? Oh wait, it wouldn't be fair...

Let me leave you with this.
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And for the clown saying the M3 GTR is a race car think again BMW has to put the car into production to keep racing it otherwise they have to stop using the V8 to compete.[hr]
And how many of these cars did they produce? 30, 60? it's normal for manufactures to do this to meet requirements. but they really aren't regular production cars. do you see them pushing M3 GTRs on the BMW website. Can you even select it as a model. no, these cars are all preordered by collectors, and also, hardly ever driven. Also, about the Ferrari Enzo. A ordinary person couldn't even get away with buying one. Ferarri will only sell this to the good customers. the Rich people that have bought MANY ferrari's in the past.

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