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Old Nov 12, 2002
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Do you own a Hyundai?

Hyundai lied to Canadians
by Phil Edmonston

Horsepower is one of the primary reasons why people choose one vehicle over another when they go shopping. Now we learn that Hyundai has been systematically lying to its customers from 1992 to 2002 in falsely stating horsepower ratings for its entire lineup of vehicles.

I believe Hyundai makes some good cars, but its ethics stink! There is no way the company will ever convince me their 10-year charade was an oversight. Look at the facts: 1.3 million vehicles advertised with false horsepower ratings - the worst case is 1997 to 1998 Sonatas with actual horsepower of 125, but a published number of 137, a 9.6% falsehood. When caught by Canadian regulators, Hyundai said false ratings were an "oversight"

Now that the jig is up, Hyundai is offering owners an extended warranty or road aid if the false rating tops 4%. Who are their advisors, Enron or Tyco?

Hyundai should give owners the choice of taking their cars back for a 100% refund and give them a cash settlement equal to the percentage of the false horsepower claim. For example, a 4% exaggeration on a $10,000 car would result in a $400 refund. A $20,000 Sonata with a 9% falsehood would be eligible to receive an $1,800 refund.

Hyundai has to do more. If Hyundai doesn't act quickly, the courts will. Already the lawyers are circling in the water.
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every single car company does that.

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old news.

yeah it sucks. over-rated hp ratings.

bad for business yo.

but I'm sure they'll pull through, they're getting better.
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im sorry to tell u but all companies do that go and get ur civic dyno and see wat its really pulling in hp.
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Hyundai is not as bad as Nissan.

that's all I have to say.
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im sorry to tell u but all companies do that go and get ur civic dyno and see wat its really pulling in hp.[hr]
Not flame you man. But no, not all companys do that. When you dyno your dyno-to-the-wheel when you read the horse power rating on your car being 127hp thats to the fly wheel, not to the ground. Hyundai actually over rated there motors, no other car company that I am aware over rates theyre motor.
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exactly, the HP reading advertised is at the flywheel. My old altima's engine was advertized at 150hp. After intake and exhaust the HP was around 120hp at the wheels. Look at riceburnerex's dyno sheet. I think it says his HP to the wheels was like 101.
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i just bought a hyundai, but not from the hyundai dealer. it was from a dealer that sells other cars too. can i still go get a refund on it?
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Hi and welcome to a long, long time ago....
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Can you say "metal cans?"

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i feel like i own a hyundai
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Hyundai is not as bad as Nissan.

that's all I have to say.[hr]

eh... i'll take a nissan over hyundai anyday
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They weren't lying intentionally. The Canadian plant was building the same engines as the Korean(?) plant. They used the same ratings as Hyundai published out of Korea. The quality of parts and/or build process at the Canadian plant resulted in fewer horsepower unbeknownst to them.
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[hr]Originally posted by: watewate
Hyundai is not as bad as Nissan.

that's all I have to say.[hr]

eh... i'll take a nissan over hyundai anyday[hr]
who wouldnt?

the point of my reply was Nissan is just as bad as Hyundai when it comes to 'advertised crank HP' figures.

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Such crappy carsMaybe that is why the are the only car company that has a warrenty for 10 years because they SUCK! They look nasty too[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG]
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