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Old 11-01-2002
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i finally rode in the 02 si yesterday. I have to say it is not as bad as i thought. My friend just bought a white one . i have to admit i hated this car when i first seen it, but now it is kinda growing on me. The Si is kinda quick too, i know it would definitely eat my 02 ex up no doubt. People that say it is not that much faster than the ex are nuts. How could it not be it has 33 more horses, and if you modded it out that thing would be damn quick. Also the interior is freaking awesome. All in all it is not that bad, but i just the body style on my coupe better.
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yah, it has more HP and torque, but weighs around 800lbs MORE then an ex [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

POS....bring back the edit* 00 (sorry, what was i thinking)* si coupe!

edit: can i have my double wishbones back also!? PLEASSSSEEEEE
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Actually it only weighs around 200lb more than a Ex Coupe. However, it still makes a difference. Last time I was at the track there were two different new Si's taking some runs. The best they could do was 16.0 and 15.7. They both had the AEM CAI and exhaust work done.
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yah, it has more HP and torque, but weighs around 800lbs MORE then an ex [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

POS....bring back the 01 si coupe!

edit: can i have my double wishbones back also!? PLEASSSSEEEEE [hr]
It is actually the 99-00 Si coupe. There is no Si coupe in 2001 except Canada's EX.
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all i can say about that car is that i like the seats





that's it.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Phillippe01
Actually it only weighs around 200lb more than a Ex Coupe. However, it still makes a difference. Last time I was at the track there were two different new Si's taking some runs. The best they could do was 16.0 and 15.7. They both had the AEM CAI and exhaust work done.[hr]
The Si and EX models are so close together that any race between them would come down to driver ability so don't doubt yourself too soon Mongo.

EX runs 0-60 in 8.4 secs. It also runs 16.7 quarters at 84 mph.
Link to EX stats

Si runs 0-60 in 8 secs. It also runs 16.2 quarters at 86 mph.
Link to Si stats
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I love those seats. As for the Si as a whole? It's nice, but if it was say 100 or 200 lbs lighter than the EX, then it would be cool. The price is ridiculous in terms of performance against the EX. Granted, .5 secs in the 1/4 is quite a margin but for $4000?! I'm sure the K20A3 will have much more potential than the D17A2, but I'd rather have my $4k and pay a lot less for insurance.
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funny, the best motor trend could do in the ex is 0-60 in 9.0 seconds...
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well, 4000 would be a lot more... but have you looked at prices lately? don't go by honda.com, usually you can get an si for under 18k out the door, and the ex is comparable to that price, if not just a little cheaper... the si is awesome, and being faster than the ex the price is right, i think i am gonna trade in my dx next year after financial aid for a white one, stop hating
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[hr]Originally posted by: Phillippe01
Actually it only weighs around 200lb more than a Ex Coupe. However, it still makes a difference. Last time I was at the track there were two different new Si's taking some runs. The best they could do was 16.0 and 15.7. They both had the AEM CAI and exhaust work done.[hr]
The Si and EX models are so close together that any race between them would come down to driver ability so don't doubt yourself too soon Mongo.

EX runs 0-60 in 8.4 secs. It also runs 16.7 quarters at 84 mph.
Link to EX stats

Si runs 0-60 in 8 secs. It also runs 16.2 quarters at 86 mph.
Link to Si stats[hr]
According to those stats then my EX coupe would be right there with the Si...my personal best is a 16.3.
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All I know is that performance wise there's nothing special about it. That's why people are swapping in the RSX Type-S engines into their '02 Si's. Now, the one thing that sucks is it's appearance. Everyone that I know that sees the car for the first time comments on it looking either, "like a station wagon", or "like a minivan". [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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All I know is that performance wise there's nothing special about it. That's why people are swapping in the RSX Type-S engines into their '02 Si's. Now, the one thing that sucks is it's appearance. Everyone that I know that sees the car for the first time comments on it looking either, "like a station wagon", or "like a minivan". [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][hr]
Did you see the Honda Tunning were they had the new Si and an Odessy (sp?) in the same article. They were doing some modifications to both, and it had pictures of each car from the same angle. It was such an easy target for people like us (us being people who think "new Si=minivan").
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When you ride in it though it seems so much quicker and more responsive.
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When you ride in it though it seems so much quicker and more responsive.[hr]
Who cares how it "feels" or "seems"? *cough* ricers *cough*
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Simply put, the Si sucks because 1) it is not better than the 2000 2) the engine sucks, and 3) the competition got stiffer.

The 2000 Si is faster and corners better than the new one. I don't understand why Honda didn't improve upon it at all. I figured they would have at least tried to out do themselves, if not everyone else as well. The Engine may say DOHC i-VTEC on it, but it is not DOHC VTEC. It just happens to have 2 camshafts and VTEC. Only the intake cam has variable timing and it it switches at 2500 RPM. No kick, no scream, nothing. Why they did this? I have no idea. But it was stupid. Not to mention that for around the same amount of green stuff, you can buy an SE-R Spec V, a GTi 1.8T, SVT Focus, or a bunch of other cars that are more visually appealing and better performing than it. Until they drop more power into this thing, I don't think it will be doing too well. I'm fine with the hatch thing... it seems to be something that all the companies are doing now, but how the hatch is heaftier than the coupe is beyond me. It needs to go on a diet or they need to give it a little more kick. I'd just be interested in seeing what would happen if the engine was modified to have the exhaust cam also be variable. I should think that would give it a little more go, but now I guess they're stuck with it... at least until the next one.
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Phil is right. I mean you can hop in a insight and say "wow this thing feels fast" when in reality it is slow as shiet! It is the numbers that count not how it feels. I mean if you want it to feel quick but not really be quick that is fine. Cars are a personal choice. If I wanted a fast car, I wouldn't have gotten a civic, but I like the way it feels. It isn't about power but the power to weight ration. Put a Ford V-8 in a fiesta with some N20 and a turbo and you have one one fast ****, but put that same engine in an old thunderbird or f150 and that car isn't as fast, even tho it still feels fast.
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One of the main reasons why I dont like it is the headlights. They just do fit that car for some reason. Now, if they decided to go with a diff shape, maybe I would like it. It kinda reminds me of the new celica headlights, and I really dont like the headlights on that either.
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have u guys ever seen real times of these cars with regular drivers at the track?...i raced a few 99/00 SI's(couldnt tell the exact year)...but out of the three...the fastest one got was 16.1...and he had I/H/E and Vtec Controller...the others were 16.3 and 16.4...and these were their best...dunno what their average's were.
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I love how everyone always dogs on the new SI's, you guys just have no clue. I have a new SI and my friend has an old one and ill tell you that there is no huge difference speed wise between the two, like everyone say. Style wise I about *** my pants when i look outside and see my baby sittin there in the drive. From the factory looks are decent, but after you drop it and put on some rims it looks badass. Only thing that pisses me off is the lower redline, which i admit does blow. The only reason why it seems slower is because the previous SI has been out for along time and tons of aftermark parts are available. Just wait till all the turbos and **** come out for the 02 because people will be getting more out of this engine than any previous hondas, and every will be saying hrmm yea Ive always liked the new SI's better. blah, rant, rave.....done.
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its uglier, heaveir, and a tad bit slower then my 00 Si.. when it was stock. Whats there to like? Jack.
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I don't ph34r the new Si, I would think twice about racing a 99-00 Si with an intake but a 02-03 Si with intake? I don't fear them, none have ever beat me at the track yet, just look at mag times if that's your thing, or go to a track and see for yourself.
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