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iTrader: (7)

a civic with a turbo set up like the HKS, 200 hp at the wheels, what kind of quarter mile times would it turn out?

injencivic

iTrader: (7)

quick times look at the rsx and its bout the same.

Grey

iTrader: (61)

I don't think anyone knows for sure. We can give you guesstimates though. I'de say mid 14's at best. Low 14's if you do some lightening and other misc. modifications.

Grey

iTrader: (61)

Just remember that the 2003 RSX Type-S produces 200hp at the crank and weighs 223 pounds more than a 2003 Civic Coupe EX. A Civic with 200hp to the wheels that weighs less will get lower ET's.

JoeB16

It REALLY depends.

Here are a few good examples.
This first one is of a 2000 Civic Si with a stock internaled B16A2 engine.

This first dyno chart shows the gains after installing a DRAG Gen III turbo kit, but w/o tuning & stock ECU.


This next chart shows the same car, but with a Hondata standalone programable ECU, and a lot of dyno tuning and a/f adjustments... in case u cant read that it says 234.3 WHP and 170.9 ft-lbs of torque.


Again, this is a pic of my friends Greddy Kit equiped 99 civic Si (stock ECU and no tuning, again).


He has yet to tune/dyno it since this was taken.

ANOTHER good example of how it depends is this. This shows the difference a free flowing exhaust makes. The dyno chart below demonstrates the difference between a DRAG Gen III turbo Si w/ a stock exhaust, VS the same car but with a Thermal "Turbo" 3" catback and freeflow catalytic converter.



For compairisons sake, this is a dyno fro a stock 2000 Si.


Also, these, as with any dyno derived HP/Tq numbers are at the WHEELS. Any HP/torque figure listed by a manufacturer is at the crank.. which is in some cases as much as 20% more then whats actually delivered at the wheels. which is why dyno results are the ones that count. So if you put a turbocharged civic with 200 Wheel Hp up against a 200 CRANK Hp RSX-S, you get a butt raped RSX-S. And this isnt even taking into consideration the hp/torque curves, gearing. traction and weight.

JoeB16

Oh, and a 200 WHP civic Si, (with decent torque numbers as well as a decent diver) will run low 14s, high 13s depending on traction.

Grey

iTrader: (61)

Good point. It's not just the hp. It's the torque curve. Then again, it could be the gearing as well. A car with a better torque curve will lose to one with a weaker torque curve and better gearing. Traction counts as well. Front wheel drive cars suffer while drag racing. Rear wheel cars have other problems. It depends on so many factors that it's hard to say what the ET will be exactly, but I think mid to high 14's are a definate possibility. Maybe low 14's. Then again, maybe high 13's? I wonder how much the torque curve would change? Maybe our D17's will like the boost? I know that they like nitro.

JohnnyLee

iTrader: (8)

Wow he's got papers to prove things too!

SleeperCivic

Mmmmm, dyno charts... I love 'em

NoBottleJustThrottle

iTrader: (11)

its not all HP, and Torque. The driver has to do a lot with it to, but also traction is key. The Vortech Civic Si with 273hp at the wheels, and 218lbs/ft at the wheel only turned a 14.4 in the quarter doing 90 something. but in the review it said that traction was an issue. But think...thats like close to if not just over 300hp at the crank, with a 14.4. And the we are talking about 220 or so hp at the crank on a car that weighs about the same. Im only guessing, but i would think that with the HKS turbo, running a 14.7 to 14.9 would be about right.

JoeB16

"14.4 in the quarter doing 90 something"

hahahahahahaha! what did he do, hit the brakes 100 ft before the finish?
90MPH trap speed = low 15s.