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Old May 31, 2003
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LOL i did the same thing, i read every post, damm i feel useless now. but IMO i hate the way the celica's look, too agressive for me. I like more sleek and not so "busy" looking cars.
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Well I got some useful information about Celica's if I ever want to buy one but I really don't so it was a waste of my time.
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god i am split. i would take either... but the civic has better fuel economy
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The Celica has the worst suspension EVER!
There's a reason I guess that so many of them are turning up on used car lots everywhere.
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on the first models of the new celica a lot of people were blowing their engines due to not having a rev limiter. and yes, theyre slow. if i can take my friends 00 eclipse 147hp w/ injen cai by A WHOLE CAR then i know i can take a celica.
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Originally posted by Pharoh
The Celica has the worst suspension EVER!
There's a reason I guess that so many of them are turning up on used car lots everywhere.
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on the first models of the new celica a lot of people were blowing their engines due to not having a rev limiter. and yes, theyre slow. if i can take my friends 00 eclipse 147hp w/ injen cai by A WHOLE CAR then i know i can take a celica.
Here's something to think about.
How much does the 3rd gen eclipse weigh?
Now think about how much the celica GT weighs.

Let me know when you figure out...

If the celica GT is slow, doesn't it make you wonder how fast your car really is?
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Ya thanks for that..one problem...we're talking about OEM here...!
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Originally posted by Pharoh
Ya thanks for that..one problem...we're talking about OEM here...!
oem wise, i think the celica can out handle a frickin civic, afterall, the civic is in the economy compact car class, while the celica is in sports compact class. also, the celica rides lower than a civic, stock... with a better body profile and lighter too

it's like saying picking a oem car to go auto cross, and selecting the civic instead of a celica -_-


and i've seen more civics in used car lots than celicas...
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oem wise, i think the celica can out handle a frickin civic, afterall, the civic is in the economy compact car class, while the celica is in sports compact class. also, the celica rides lower than a civic, stock... with a better body profile and lighter too

it's like saying picking a oem car to go auto cross, and selecting the civic instead of a celica -_-


and i've seen more civics in used car lots than celicas...
There used to be a current generation Celica club here. After a year they all sold their cars because they hated the current model so damn much...I've driven both, and the Civic (although stock isn't great) is better than the Celica..I'm not trying to pick a fight here....The Civic handles better and is quicker outta the hole and at the top end.
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Originally posted by Voiceofid
and i've seen more civics in used car lots than celicas...
Maybe, because statistically, more Civics are sold than Celicas, which leads to a higher percentage of Civics seen on car lots/streets/anywhere else....could be wrong though?
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The Civic handles better and is quicker outta the hole and at the top end.
Are you friggin serious?
How can a 2550 lbs car with a 127 hp SOHC engine have better acceleration and top end than a 2425 lbs car with a 140 hp DOHC engine?

And also, the celica handles better than the civic.
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HAHAHA. He said a Civic has "top-end".

A 5-speed manual GT will put BUSLENGTHS on that Civic *** in a top end race, y0!
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Originally posted by 301CiViC5
Maybe, because statistically, more Civics are sold than Celicas, which leads to a higher percentage of Civics seen on car lots/streets/anywhere else....could be wrong though?
Yes, that is right.....its just like all the GM drivers whining because the saying that more domestic cars in america break down or have problems compared to imports, there is also a 5:1 ratio between domestic and imports in the states (or close to it)

Overall i would rather drive a civic, theres more options you can do to it. They may not be the faster thing off the dealership but they're good dependable cars, so are toyotas dont get me wrong...just dont be biased to one thing (just dont drive mustangs!!)
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OKay, I don't mind being critisizes at all but before I accept it I would like to know which of you have actually driven a Celica or raced one.

I have driven both and raced at least 3 stock Celicas when all I had was a tint job on my car...I'm telling you that the Civic Si (EX) reacts better at the top and out handles the Celica....It's all a matter of opinion I guess, but I have seen enough to post my thoughts without any concern as to whether I'm right or not.
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I raced two GT Celicas in my EX I use to have. Beat them both. I have not raced on yet in my SI.
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Uhm...since this IS a civic forum, I guess I just have to accept the obvious:
The civic EX is faster and handles better than the celica GT lease:

BTW: Maybe you've just been racing crappy drivers. Go to newcelica.org and compare the 1/4 mile times of their celica GTs to the ones of civics over here. Just don't be surprised when you find out that they're faster...
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Originally posted by Rsxtc
Uhm...since this IS a civic forum, I guess I just have to accept the obvious:
The civic EX is faster and handles better than the celica GT lease:

BTW: Maybe you've just been racing crappy drivers. Go to newcelica.org and compare the 1/4 mile times of their celica GTs to the ones of civics over here. Just don't be surprised when you find out that they're faster...
i am done talking to these honda4lifers
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Originally posted by Rsxtc
Uhm...since this IS a civic forum, I guess I just have to accept the obvious:
The civic EX is faster and handles better than the celica GT lease:

BTW: Maybe you've just been racing crappy drivers. Go to newcelica.org and compare the 1/4 mile times of their celica GTs to the ones of civics over here. Just don't be surprised when you find out that they're faster...
You make a good point regarding the quality of drivers I ran against..I've been quarter miling and road coursing for 10 years so I have a bit of an advantage over some. The last guy I beat in a Celica was a pretty good driver and it was close but I beat him none the less. I never said that the EX would 'blow it away', all I said was that it was better....

i am done talking to these honda4lifers
and as for the above comment....Alot of guys here may be Honda lifers but as for myself...I just love imports in general...My dream car is either a 350Z or an EVO VII.
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the civic is a good little economy car (exept for the SIR) so why compare it with a real sport car

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well, i own a 03 civic, and my mom owns a 2k celica, the first yr of the new body type and like i think the celica is a girls car. i dont like to drive it cuz its all stock and cuz i feel stupid driving it cuz its auto. is a gt also. its not really slow, but it aint the fastest car out there. the girls like the celica tho cuz of the look. i'd say i like my civic cuz its got stuff, but if its stock civ vs stock celica, i'd go celica. I was gonna buy her car, but then again it was auto and gt. oh well, still my car to drive when i dont wanna drive mine
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Please drop this lame topic.

It's a fact that a Toyota Celica GT is quicker than a Honda Civic EX. It puts out more power on the dyno, more torque on the dyno, has a way shorter gearing, and is 200lb lighter.

Most people on this fourm do mid 16's 1/4mile.. bad drivers do it in 17's... awesome drivers with minor mods (intake & exhaust) do it in 15's.

People on Celica fourms do 15's average... their bad drivers do 16's.. their awesome drivers with mods do 14's.

Also, use some COMMON SENSE. It's a fact that a Civic is slower than a Corolla. Which in turn, is slower than a Celica. Think about it!!

Finally, your racing stories don't count. People's driving abilities vary HUGE. As much as two seconds in a 1/4 mile drag strip. Which translate to multiple car lengths in real life. Just because you beat a Celica GT in your Civic doesn't make your car quicker. It makes you the superior driver.

This is coming from a person that owns a 2001 Civic AND a 2001 Celica GT.

Fourms are full of lies. Everybody knows that. I'll tell you how it goes.

Guys on Hyundai Accent fourms talk about kick Civic ***.
Guys on Civic sites talk about kicking Celica's ***.
Guys on Celica sites talk about kicking RSX's ***.
Guys on RSX sites talk about kick WRX's ***.
Guys on WRX sites talk about kicking Corvette's ***.
Guys on Corvette sites talk about kicking Lamborgini ***.

It's a vicious cylce of lies, and deception that never ends. I'm sure some of Accent drivers have beaten Civics, and some Vette drivers have beating Lamborginis. But like I said--driver plays a MAJOR role. Give your abilities props, but don't give your car unrealistic abilities. It just doesn't have them.
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yeah...

fact won't lie. look at fact sheet and physics.

only thing which vary is driving skill.
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Well put together...
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the celicas are slow man. trust me!!! they cant run good times, not saying ours do but they are slower then our cars!!!
Just read this whole topic and this seems to be the dumbest post here ............................... congrats
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Originally posted by injencivic
again still waiting for you to prove me wrong. I may have said that a civic can be faster then a celica but it depends on which kind. IF you think that i believe that a civic can beat a gt-s your stupid. I supposed you think a rs could beat a gt-s huh??

but again still waiting for you to back up your words which you never have.

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Toyota Celica Honda Civic Coupe
Engine Type 1.8L I4 1.7L I4
Displacement (cc/ci) 1794/109 1668/102
Valves 16 16
Horsepower 140@6400 127@6300
Torque 125@4200 114@4800
Fuel System MPFI MPFI
Transmission M M
Curb Weight 2425/2460 2553/NA


Celica GT 1/4 time from newcelica.org


Fin Bonset 01 GT 5spd 2.341 10.218 69.15 15.876 86.24 Bithlo, FL
Gabriel E. Hernandez 01 GT Auto 2.547 11.080 64.50 17.101 80.76 Coors Light Raceway Park
Joe Leonard 00 GT 5spd 2.29 9.66 15.008 91.86 Capitol Raceway
Patrick Laflamme 01 GT 5spd 2.344 69.12 15.928 86.54 Pont-Rouge/Québec/Canada
Adam 01 GT 5spd 2.314 10.144 69.94 15.765 86.57 Bithlo/Orlando Fla.
Ryan Ross 01 GT 5spd 2.3356 10.029 15.6946 86.6786 Capitol Raceway
Joe Leonard 00 GT 5spd 2.2308 9.5235 14.7865 93.4253 Capitol Raceway
Ryan Ross 01 GT 5spd 2.28 9.9294 15.4654 88.9926 Capitol Raceway/Crofton, Md
mayco garcia 00 GT 5spd 2.483 10.451 67.98 16.209 84.82 California Speedway
Rudy Rodriguez 01 GT Auto 2.469 10.177 68.80 15.843 85.51 California Speedway
Luna 00 GT Auto 2.663 11.618 60.83 17.868 78.34 Orlando Speedworld Dragway
Adam Wilkens 01 GT 5spd 2.391 10.187 70.57 Bithlo/ Orlando
Zach Sirkin 01 GT 5spd 2.530 10.176 70.498 - - Brewers' Speedway
ST 02 GT 5spd 2.349 10.75 68.7 16.132 84.47 Great Lakes Dragaway.
Travis 00 GT 5spd 2.326 10.081 70.29 15.630 87.89 Bradenton Motorsports Park Florida Gabriel Lopez 01 GT 5spd 2.563 10.826 65.78 n/a n/a Puerto Rico , Manati Race track
Josh Showalter 01 GT Auto 2.166 10.811 63.81 16.886 77.94 Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Kraig 01 GT 5spd 2.4299 10.2257 68.81 15.9134 86.05 River City Raceway/ seguin texas
Nabil 01 GT Auto 2.484 10.486 67.28 16.641 85.83
Jay Black 01 GT 5spd 2.401 10.499 67.86 16.324 85.54 Shannonville, Ontario
Edgardo Cartagena 02 GT 5spd 2.29 9.8142 9.8142 15.3942 89.1125 Carolina Speed Way
derek wilkens 02 GT 5spd 2.487 10.464 70.09 16.131 84.68 moroso motorsport park.fl
ST 02 GT 5spd 2.318 10.302 68.61 16.014 85.67 Great Lakes Dragaway, Racine Wisconsin
Gabriel Lopez 01 GT 5spd 2.425 10.603 65.011 16.393 84.97 Carolina Raceway Park, PR
Neil S 00 GT Auto 2.666 11.389 62.80 17.484 80.44 West Palm Beach, FL / Moroso
Luke 02 GT 5spd 2.397 10.239 15.879 86.01 Renegade Raceway Yakima Washington
Amber 02 GT 5spd 2.3944 10.6725 16.5 83.2784 Capital Raceway, Croften Md.
Karl Belanger 2000 GT 5spd 2.313 9.734 15.216 90.030 Napiereville,Quebec,Canada
Zach Sirkin 01 GT 5spd 2.331 9.929 71.795 15.656 88.628 Kinston Drag Strip
Adam Wilkens 01 GT 5spd 2.361 9.867 73.63 15.307 90.44 Bithlo/Orlando Fla
derek wilkens 02 GT 5spd 3.345 10.052 71.86 15.559 88.91 bithlo/ orlando florida
Michael Koch 01 GT 5spd 2.404 10.101 70.88 15.626 88.42 Old Bridge Township Raceway
Ryan Ross 01 GT 5spd 2.271 9.818 72.81 15.268 89.35 Capitol Raceway/ Crofton, MD
Patrick Laflamme 01 GT 5spd 2.372 10.225 15.873 86.178 Napierville Dragway
TRD 01 GT Auto 2.5827 10.9129 65.72 16.7859 83.3 River City Raceway
David Tran 02 GT 5spd 2.410 10.470 66.388 16.400 81.923 LACR, pALmDALE
Norm Hord 02 GT 5spd 2.175 9.755 15.274 86.7 Prairie Hill Dragway, near Waco, TX
mike g 01 GT 5spd 2.19 9.08 79.13 14.07 99.40 e-town NJ
Lee 01 GT 5spd 2.504 10.316 70.91 15.970 86.31 California Speedway, Fontana
adam pridmore 02 GT Auto 2.620 11.132 65.51 17.088 82.19 Alabama International Dragway
Mike Kremer 01 GT Auto 16.08 89.5 Ran G-tech in car!
ST 02 GT 5spd 2.416 10.286 69.60 15.916 87.59 Greatlakes Dragaway Union Grove, Wisconsin
jerry houngsombath 00 GT 5spd 2.471 10.325 68.99 16.093 Rock falls raceway
jeff 02 GT 5spd 2.434 10.230 69.02 15.978 84.40 hawaii internation raceway
Joe Whitworth 00 GT 5spd 2.463 10.554 67.89 16.32 85.6 Captiol Raceway, Crofton MD


civic track performance, from edmunds.com

0 - 60 Acceleration (sec): 7.9
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 16.2@86.2
60 - 0 Braking (ft): 124
200 ft. Skidpad (g's): No Data
600 ft. Slalom (mph): 61.1


celica performance, from dereksexoticcars.net

Top Speed Not Available
0 - 30 mph Not Available
0 - 60 mph 6.6 seconds
0 - 100 mph Not Available
0 - ¼ mile 15.0 seconds
Lateral Acceleration 0.89g


plus, a few things has already been said while i was searching through the web for them specs

1. celicas are on most sports car forums, while the civic are not
2. 7thgen celica are in more video games than 7thgen civics
3. as you cna see the 1/4 mile specs..


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from car-stats.com
Obtained from C&D November, 2000
0-60: 8.4 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 16.7
1/4 Speed: 84
Additional Information

0-30: 2.9
0-40: 4.3
0-50: 6.2
0-70: 11.5
0-80: 14.9
0-90: 19.5
0-100: 25.7
0-110: 36.1
0-120:
0-130:
0-140:
0-150:
0-160:

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I've have a civic SI, and I have tried the celica, personally I think the celica has better handling than our civics.
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