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Old Aug 8, 2002
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BMW's SMG II tranny...tech specs and impressions

For all those of you "real drivers" out there who think clutch-less manuals detract from enthusiast driving...


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[hr]I've already driven an M3 fitted with BMW's newest-generation smart manual, the SMG II. This one arrives here in spring 2002, likely as a $2400 option on our M3.[hr]
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i hope this thing doesnt have the same kind of lag that the auto steptronic (or whatever its called) tranny has on the current bmw's. i drove my dads one, and just wanted to see how it feels to shift that, and its got like a half a second lag before it actually shifts. compared to my friends 300M the lag is considerably less, but its still not as an instant shift like in a manual.
so hopefully the SMG II doesnt have that.

this was my fave tho:
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[hr]You too Can Launch Like Ralf Schumacher!

How to activate the Acceleration Assistance:


Switch off DynamicStability Control DSC.
Select the sequential mode S6.
With the vehicle stationary, move the selector lever to the leftand hold it.
Fully depress accelerator pedal. The optimum-start engine speed (about 3500 rpm) is regulated.
As the selector lever is released, the vehicle accelerates. Keep the accelerator fully depressed — and hold on![hr]
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lag? the thing shifts in .08 of a second....
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Can somebody relink? I think it died...

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resurrecting old threads huh Aohan815
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Damn I didn't realize that it was this old.
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One question, Does BMW still Void your transmission warrenty if you use the launch control more then 5 Times (yes the computer keeps track of how many times its used...) or if you leave it in Sport mode for too long?
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Originally Posted by Aohan815
lag? the thing shifts in .08 of a second....
Have you driven one?
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i still don't like those clutchless shifters
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
One question, Does BMW still Void your transmission warrenty if you use the launch control more then 5 Times (yes the computer keeps track of how many times its used...) or if you leave it in Sport mode for too long?

actually ive heard of a couple people calling BMW NA and asking about this, BMW said it is not true and will not void your warrenty.
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wats launch control, whts sport mode :S i dont know alot about bmws
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will manual just disapear one day? like the cassettes?
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Yeah, that system is definitely better than any manual system. Tou can't beat a shift with that speed.
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The only reason why a person might think that there is lag between shifts is because the person isn't really doing anything during that time but waiting for the shift. When driving a manual, a person has the perception of faster shifts because they are doing something between shifts.

Hope that made sense
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Originally Posted by Ramones
The only reason why a person might think that there is lag between shifts is because the person isn't really doing anything during that time but waiting for the shift. When driving a manual, a person has the perception of faster shifts because they are doing something between shifts.

Hope that made sense
i think what your trying to say is its some sort of psychological* issue that us humans natural have.
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In a nut shell it's all about perception. That's what i wanted to say.
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my buddy has an m3 smg, its basically a steptronic- blows *** with the lag. I can keep up with him in with my 5 sp 325 untill he hits high rpms in 3rd gear.
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Originally Posted by MegaCivic2k1
my buddy has an m3 smg, its basically a steptronic- blows *** with the lag. I can keep up with him in with my 5 sp 325 untill he hits high rpms in 3rd gear.

not really steptronic, it has many characteristics of a 6spd; it's just like any actual gear box but with out a clutch.....waaaaaay faster than any steptronic. It has launch control, different shifting modes/levels i.e sport mode, and even blips the throttle automatically when dowshifting.

oh and define "keeping up" with the m3 please?
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Try timing someone's shift in a manual, then time a shift in and auto, triptronic, "steptronic" etc. A lot of times the anverage manual shifts are just as long as an auto shift in certain cars, of course it varies with different trannies but you see the point.

People think the shift in an auto is long when they are used to a manual, it is all a perseption of time....I still would trade in an auto for a manual any day though. =)
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