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Old Jul 31, 2002
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Can our 7th gen civic beat a VW Jetta TDI?
Turbo Diesel Injection?
yea they are turbocharged so they cant be slow but i mean its a Diesel Engine afterall?
has anyoen tried or know?
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i wouldn't see why not.. Its only a VW [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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i dont know much about vw's
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Hey SurrealCivic: Is that comment a joke??? Have you tried racing a 1.8T, or maybe even a 2.0L? If you have then you know that VW's can move. Granted the vehicle he is talking about is only the lowely TDI, that has under 100 horsepower (90 to be exact), and yes he should be able to smoke him like a fatty-boom-batty, but not all VW's suck.

Try your hands vs. a Corrado, or even a Scirocco(sp?), they would ruin a civic of any year or type
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Depends how long the race is. The Jetta TDI has a low 90 hp but has 150 ft-lbs of torque. We could probably beat a 2.0L, but don't even think of the 1.8T or VR6.
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klam what is the horsepower / torque rating for the 2.0L?
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haha, not true, tdi really really show, i mean REALLY, i raced a 1.8T Jetta, on highway start from 130km/h to 210km/h, exactly same speed, all i have is exhaust and a 70lbs subs in trunk, and i turned on the volumn to max, and i started to gain after 200, thats old jetta though, 150hps one, not the new one, i wont even bother to try if its the 180hps one
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macross. how did you get your car to go past 180km/h? Isn't there a chip that blocks that.. ???
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i beat a 95 vw jetta gls with just a sri
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OUR CAR DO NOT HAVE SPEED CHIPS.... they go over 180 kmh
i went 194 with it on the hwy
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speaking of speed chips which cars have them as i can stay away from buying one
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i think auto cutoff at 180, i have 5spd
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[hr]Originally posted by: JDog2001CivicEX
Hey SurrealCivic: Is that comment a joke??? Have you tried racing a 1.8T, or maybe even a 2.0L? If you have then you know that VW's can move. Granted the vehicle he is talking about is only the lowely TDI, that has under 100 horsepower (90 to be exact), and yes he should be able to smoke him like a fatty-boom-batty, but not all VW's suck.

Try your hands vs. a Corrado, or even a Scirocco(sp?), they would ruin a civic of any year or type[hr]
Hell ya, my last car was a 88 Scirocco and that thing would bury our Civics.

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tdi, easily. 1.8 t i raced stock vs stock and was up by a half car length before we hit a stop sign
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My best friend has a 2001 1.8T. He has a chip and an exhaust and that thing is fast. No way I can beat him in a straight line. Of course when we autocross I can beat him. I have no engine mods. Just 17 p7000 tires and dc strut bar and lower tie bar. I just ordered my konis and skunk2 coilovers. Now I will be able to smoke him. hehe Im an excellent driver.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Gryphin
speaking of speed chips which cars have them as i can stay away from buying one[hr]
Most cars do have the speed governers,
from my knowledge no civic does, my old 93 civic si coupe never had one i took it past 200
and my new 2k2 civic i took till 195, (KMH of course)
so its all good with civics
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Naaaaaa......Sirocos are old as hell.......They can't beat us.....maybee hang....not beat......
The corada's.....yea, they tear us up......espacially the turbo'd ones..............
The new jetta's...we should bea able to hang w/ the 2.0......
VR-6 and 1.8T........no way......
The older jetta V-6's will give us a run for our money....prob. still take us.....
The older jetta w/ the 2.0......We'll smoke the hell out of......( I owned one)....94' w/ the 2.0.......
and the really old ones...(86-92)......w/ the 1.6......we'll take them too.......
I had an 86 GTI......That'll give you a run for your money...(any GTI)
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[hr]Originally posted by: JDog2001CivicEX
klam what is the horsepower / torque rating for the 2.0L?[hr]
The 2.0L I4 Jetta is 115 hp. Not sure about torque, but it is around the same. The Jetta is a heavier car than our Civics so that further amplifies that engines deficiencies.

For those who are beating the 150 hp 1.8T (previous years), I don't see how that is? 150 hp + 150 ft-lbs and a car that is a bit heavier. That is around high 8 second 0-60 I'm guessing. Bad driving the culprit?

The new 1.8T (tuned up to 180 hp) is quoted as a mid 7 second 0-60. A Civic EX standard is approximately a 9 second car...

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the 8v motor in the jetta and the golf is dog..

my friend has a 2 door 2000 golf w/ a 8v motor, he was intake, exhaust, camshaft, valvesprings, retainers, lightened flywheel, upgraded clutch, upgraded ecu, short shfiter, and 17x8" OZ wheels w/ 225/45 Yoko Paradas...

it comes down to driver......we race all the time, and whoever gets a better launch, or who hits the shifts better comes out the winner.....the cars a pretty much dead even, although he has a nice amount of low end torque, which makes the car nicer to drive
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I hate Jetta's[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]
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I have race a jetta a couple of times and all three times I bet it. it was a 2.0 owned by my uncle. The first time we went from a rolling start we were about equal all the way but I started to pull away. The other two times we were at a stop light and i just got a better start and just keep pulling away.
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The TDI does 0-60 in 12 sec.
The 2.0 does it in 10.4
This is the new ones... (Jetta/Golf IV). I know these numbers because I was looking at buying one, and they were just too slow.
If you can't beat that in a Civic, you need to learn to drive.
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[hr]Originally posted by: macrossranma
haha, not true, tdi really really show, i mean REALLY, i raced a 1.8T Jetta, on highway start from 130km/h to 210km/h, exactly same speed, all i have is exhaust and a 70lbs subs in trunk, and i turned on the volumn to max, and i started to gain after 200, thats old jetta though, 150hps one, not the new one, i wont even bother to try if its the 180hps one[hr]
hows it concidered a race if you guys started off on the expressway? Not hatin just sayin:rolleyes. Maybe you could explain...
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It also depends on what year 1.8t. I looked into getting a used one before i got the civic. Pre 2002 they only had 150 hp, after they have 181.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Alex053
It also depends on what year 1.8t. I looked into getting a used one before i got the civic. Pre 2002 they only had 150 hp, after they have 181.[hr]
those'll still beat civics. the 150hp is a very underrated 150hp, it makes roughly 145 at the wheels.

but comparing with the 2.0 liters, i've raced several and beat them pretty horribly.
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what is kilo in MPH I had mine up too 134 mph and it wouldn't go any faster. I was about 5 ticks from red line.
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