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<< Ummm, did you not see the video of my engine bay?

To all those who believe thank you, to those that don't...I don't know. I have nothing else to say...I beat a RSX and I am happy. >>



Well, as long as YOU'RE happy my friend........

Happiness comes from within.

But we still don't believe you

 
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drag racing has a lot to do with the driver. ive ran 16.2 with intake and exhaust and i beat a rsx. then switched cars and i smoked my own car very badly. but hey when it all comes down to it i won one and that is what makes me happy. winning is winning even if the other guy misses 2nd( i hate that excuse) when people run relays they dont start over if a runner trips. yeah i question the 15.7 but hey there were some SI's running 15.3 and 15.0 stock. honda spits out a few freak motors every now and then that just produce more horsepower. my friends 88 crx seemed to get faster and faster and we couldn't figure it out. running all motor intake,test pipe, and exhaust. this is a sohc vtec running 14.4's. what was happening he had carbon build up around the piston cylinders and it increased his compression. like i said freak motor.

 
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Well, I don't know what make a person happy.. each to their own..

But I personally wouldn't be that excited about beating a Camaro SS, if the guy had no clue on how to drive it... sure I could go around bragging how I dusted an SS.. but how would I look doing that?

 
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I took a little trip to the RSX forum a while ago and more than one of them were
complaining that there cars were slow, this was type s people. Then I read in one of
those car mags (not honda tuning or HCL because those are in front of me) that the type s
was running 15.0 stock. That's the type s with 200hp. So with the proper conditions
and a base RSX I believe he won. I think the RSX's are also heavier than ours which could
make up the difference and the driver is the key as was said previously.

And if Hwoody is fakin' I don't care, so you fooled some guy 5000 miles away.
I do think it is conveivable that his time is accurate and he beat an RSX.


R/T

 
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I beat my best friends rsx type s in my civ and hes beat me in my civic when ive driven his car... its got kick and all but imo it is too slow for all that $$$

 
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you guys are really smoking crack now...a base is believable a Type S is not.

Last night an RSX wanted some on the highway while I was in my Si and he got served...if it was a Type S I wouldve got my *** kicked, so no way in hell is a dx lx ex Civic going to beat a Type S, unless that driver is a retard or blind.

 
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Neo, have you even ever driven a type-s? i've driven both a 2000 si, exhaust header, cams, cai and a type s just intake and it is close everytime so I wouldn't say your si would get smoked by a type -s... rsx-s is heavy. si isnt as so that's my logic...

 
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Yes I have, and theres no way that a Civic is going to beat it. So in essence your saying that since a Civic can beat a 200hp new teg, it can beat the 195hp Integra Type R's too right. The only Honda that's hindered by weight is the Prelude.

A SOHC 127hp 5 spd that only puts down about 100-110hp to the wheels with a 6800 redline is not going to beat the DOHC 2.0L K series that redlines at 7900, 6spd 200 to the crank 160-170 to the wheels. Its called a SH!TTY DRIVER that causes the loss.

 
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go to club RSX, 1/4 Drag section...make sure the ppl say Type S...most ppl there are high 13's-mid 14's...like I said a dx lx ex Civic is not touching that without FI. The reason for the high time (15 even tho 15 a dx lx ex Civic still aint gonna touch look at hwoody 15.8 ) IS SOMEONE THAT CANT DRIVE THE CAR.

 
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I beat a ford pinto!

 
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I have to agree with Neo. I own a Type-S and I am a previous Civic EX coupe owner. Unless my dead Grandmother (may she R.I.P.) drove my Type-S (OR a Base RSX), a BONE STOCK Civic has no chance of beating a Type-S and will have a hell of a time beating a Base RSX. Weight to HP ratio is not that significant vs. the Civic. So weight is not a factor. With all things being equal (stock RSX vs. stock CIVIC) a Civic has no chance. I don't know why some Civic drivers think that they can "take on" a Type-S. I never thought about taking on a Type-R when I was driving my Civic. Just my .02 cents [IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]

 
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<< Yes I have, and theres no way that a Civic is going to beat it. So in essence your saying that since a Civic can beat a 200hp new teg, it can beat the 195hp Integra Type R's too right. The only Honda that's hindered by weight is the Prelude.

A SOHC 127hp 5 spd that only puts down about 100-110hp to the wheels with a 6800 redline is not going to beat the DOHC 2.0L K series that redlines at 7900, 6spd 200 to the crank 160-170 to the wheels. Its called a SH!TTY DRIVER that causes the loss. >>



chill out man. specs dont always mean everything in the whole world. so you're saying i am a sh!tty driver and so is my friend??
why dont you go to my homeboy's webpage and you tell me (since you seem all knowing) who knows more.
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I'm not saying it can beat it all the time, im just saying that it is close, really close. havent you read the rsx article in the sport compact i think it was and it had the times for 0-60 and 1/4 mile? it's not that fast. so theoretically yes, the type -s should beat it but there's usually never perfect conditions. Oh, did I say chill out yet?

 
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I am perfectly "chill". And I am saying you and your friend are sh!tty drivers. What am I looking at on that page? I see no times for a Type S or 2k1. Is a website with a lot of cars on it supposed to intimidate me? Please. Obviously you are the only one that thinks that a Civic is "Close" to a Type S. Maybe you guys need to learn how to launch a car right? It dosnt need to be about specs- you show one Civic that can take a Type R without having an advantage be it mods, head start whatever. And the Type R has 5 less to the crank than the Type S does. It dosn't come down to who knows more, its the sheer fact that a car which is at over a 80 hp advantage, displacement advantage, etc, different types of VTEC....an econobox Civic is not going to stay with the Type S.



<< Weight to HP ratio is not that significant vs. the Civic. >>


Obviously he thinks the new Integra weighs as much as a rustang.

 
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Don't kid yourself people. Can a civic EX beat a type S? Yeah. But only if an idiot is driving or he really messes up and misses a couple gears.

Look at the fastest RSX type S's running high 14's. And we have ONE guy on this board who claims a 15.8 stock (which by the way, I heard that the timing was found to be faulty for that lane on that run from a little birdie.... that makes the time unreliable and wrong) So you are talking more than a second difference. That's 10+ lengths in a 1/4 mile. So a stock civic will not take a stock RSX S unless the S driver is really crappy (like reading a book between shifts) and the civic driver is really damn good.

 
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please everyone that claims to have beaten an rsx line up in an orderly fashion and let me slap the hell out of all of you [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/IMG] and let me speak on the behalf of everyone on this site....you make civic drivers look bad....

 
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Agreed.

At least the base is believeable. The Type S deserves a b!tch slap.

 
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You find base believable?

HAHAHA WTF... far from it.

Some of you haven't even driven the base RSX, so you really shouldn't say much....... for your info, it *IS* quicker.

Oh yeah..... and for those of you who say you can pull of high 15's... well some guy at Honda-Tech says he does low 15's with his stock base RSX. Like I said--miracle times for EVERY CAR, on EVERY INTERNET FOURM.

Cars on the internet mysteriously get 1/2 second faster to 1/4 mile... I don't know why.

 
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Hey guy....ever think the driver might have something to do with it? I'm tired of your mag racing BS. Base RSX times I've seen at the track are normally high 15's, low 16's. The type S is a different story-those I've seen run high 14's. The difference between the Type-S and the civic is too large to make up, I agree. But don't start this **** with the magazine times again. Where do you think mags make their money? As long as the cars are somewhat close it's all in the driver. I beat a Kia Sephia(140hp) at the track with my LX(115hp). Why don't people call BS on that? Learn a thing or two about racing before you post that ****, OK?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]

 
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<< Hey guy....ever think the driver might have something to do with it? I'm tired of your mag racing BS. Base RSX times I've seen at the track are normally high 15's, low 16's. The type S is a different story-those I've seen run high 14's. The difference between the Type-S and the civic is too large to make up, I agree. But don't start this **** with the magazine times again. Where do you think mags make their money? As long as the cars are somewhat close it's all in the driver. I beat a Kia Sephia(140hp) at the track with my LX(115hp). Why don't people call BS on that? Learn a thing or two about racing before you post that ****, OK?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] >>



Whoa whoa whoa

Wait a minute. BS? Hahaha buddy YOU are the bull$hitter! Shut the fu*k up about your little wins about a Kia Sephia.

First of all, 140HP vs 115HP, is a ***RATING***... as in, at the CRANK. When was the last time you measured a CRANK horsepower???? OK, EXACTLY. 2nd rate companies are NORTIORIOUS for over-rating HP.

But here, we are comparing HONDA VS HONDA. Not only is it RATED at whopping 33 more horsepower, it also has greater displacement and torque. It is the SAME engine, that is in the Honda Civic Si!!! And that is a car that is SUPPOSED TO BE FASTER THAN CIVIC EX.

So you sit there, and say... hey... my SLOWER car, is faster............... who is the BULL$HITTER?? EXACTLY.

Shut the fu*k up. I drove an RSX before, and it *IS* faster. I don't know the 1/4 mile time for it, because no magazine has listed it. This is from my personal experience. It pulls harder than the Civic, right from idle.

You're so pathetic coming on here imagining how fast your Civic is man...... get a grip.

 
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<< It is the SAME engine, that is in the Honda Civic Si >>



Uh, no it's not.



<< Shut the fu*k up. I drove an RSX before, and it *IS* faster. I don't know the 1/4 mile time for it, because no magazine has listed it. This is from my personal experience. It pulls harder than the Civic, right from idle. >>



It is very plausible for a civic to beat a base RSX. Though the RSX is probably a bit faster, the civic can hang close enough for a better driver to take the win.

 
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heres a question for you......WTF is up with that video camera for one. IF you notice the screen bows in and out with the zoom. The other portion was if this 01 civic is stock like the person claims who does it run 15.8 at 91mph?

I see modded ones on here running 15.7 or 15.6 at 86 an 87.

And if you notice the decimal point is in the wrong stop too. says like 918.xx

I raise the BS flag

 
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Yeah, I know RSX actually has *MORE TORQUE* than the 160HP Civic Si....... yet another advantage for the RSX... but whatever...





<< It is very plausible for a civic to beat a base RSX. Though the RSX is probably a bit faster, the civic can hang close enough for a better driver to take the win. >>



As far as being "close" goes... well, I never said I doubted him beating an RSX at a single stop light race. Or him beating any other car, for that matter. But claiming the Civic EX as a whole is faster than RSX as a whole, is a big mistake.

Yes, a gift driver in an EX could take a base RSX. But that same driver in an RSX would be even FASTER.

Conlcusion: RSX is faster than Civic.

 
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Yeah, I think we all understand that, but you just plain said it would be damn hard for a civic to beat a base RSX, and I think they are much closer than you think....

The civic Si has a single stage manifold (like the type S) and the base RSX has dual stage. again, not the same engine in Si as base RSX.

 
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<< heres a question for you......WTF is up with that video camera for one. IF you notice the screen bows in and out with the zoom. The other portion was if this 01 civic is stock like the person claims who does it run 15.8 at 91mph?

I see modded ones on here running 15.7 or 15.6 at 86 an 87.

And if you notice the decimal point is in the wrong stop too. says like 918.xx

I raise the BS flag >>



That's also what I had stated previously. And i later found out from a birdie that the timing on that side was off. The trap speed alone makes it obvious. Even if it was 91mph that's more like a low 15 second run. Trap speed is determined by two light beams in the last 60 feet or so. That final beam ALSO determines ET in combo with the first 2 beams (in the first 2 feet... determining RT as well). The clock said 15.8, but the clock was wrong.

 
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OK maybe i didn't state my point clearly enough. I know the car is faster with all things being equal. That being said, the DRIVER makes all the difference. Last time I was at the track my friend ran a 16.35 one time in his GS-R. Jon, a member of this site, ran 16.32. Does that make a civic faster than a GS-R? HELL NO, but back to this issue: I never said a civic was faster than a RSX, I said it was all in the driver. I don't give a fvck if you have a faster car if you don't know how to drive.

 
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<< OK maybe i didn't state my point clearly enough. I know the car is faster with all things being equal. That being said, the DRIVER makes all the difference. Last time I was at the track my friend ran a 16.35 one time in his GS-R. Jon, a member of this site, ran 16.32. Does that make a civic faster than a GS-R? HELL NO, but back to this issue: I never said a civic was faster than a RSX, I said it was all in the driver. I don't give a fvck if you have a faster car if you don't know how to drive. >>



Damn man...I must be at the wrong site...I didn't know this was the World Racing Federation. What the hell is everyone's problem!? If everyone is so stuck on this issue of "better driver" vs. performance of cars...go drive professionally. Why is everyone tripping on anyway? This whole thread sucks. The conclusion is that the "better driver" wins against the RSX. Well then...that "better driver" should get the RSX and shut this whole topic off. Maybe you shouldn't drive a Civic a be a good driver. Get a real performance car and then talk about being a good driver. Hittin up the NOS switch and shifting without grinding your tranny to death, isn't being a good driver. Fact is fact...if you want to talk about good driver and such, you're allowing different factors to enter into the equation...keep it straight and simple. RSX is faster car than a CIVIC. End of story. No need to argue about "skillz" or better reflexes...please. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG]

 
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<< OK maybe i didn't state my point clearly enough. I know the car is faster with all things being equal. That being said, the DRIVER makes all the difference. Last time I was at the track my friend ran a 16.35 one time in his GS-R. Jon, a member of this site, ran 16.32. Does that make a civic faster than a GS-R? HELL NO, but back to this issue: I never said a civic was faster than a RSX, I said it was all in the driver. I don't give a fvck if you have a faster car if you don't know how to drive. >>



Umm.. read thru the posts again.

Even on your last post, I believe you were bit*hing about how you smoked a 140HP Kia, because of your FASTER CAR, not because of your driving skills... you didn't mention one time how poor the Kia driver was.

And read thru your other posts..... fuggin' liar. You're not a man, admit it if you are wrong at something. Everyone makes mistakes. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/IMG]

 
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I hate all of you

 
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<< I hate all of you >>



[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG] and we all hate you too, PEACE

 
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hey yall can argue all you want over the RSX/Civic thing. I was just makin it clear that a TYPE S is no contest for a Civic...which someone obviously thought otherwise.