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<< That is not a stock 7th gen. Im sorry, the video looks like $hit. How is anyone to know that was even you doing that run? >>





True that

Rule 1:

THE INTERNET IS FULL OF LIES

Men pretend to be women...
Men pretend to be rich...
And Men pretend to drive faster cars

You probably dusted that RSX.......... cause he didn't know how to drive.

Like I posted before....... just cause you beat someone, doesn't make your car faster.

RSX will smoke you. No way will Honda make a 160HP RSX slower than a 127HP Civic. That's just common sense. And I don't care if you have videos, or time slips--call me an a$$hole, call me ignorant, but I don't believe you did 15.8s with a bone stock Civic. The day you do 15.8s with your car, is the day I do 12s flat with my Nike Shox.

People don't even do that up here in CANADA, where we have COLD AIR coming into the engine.... so for you to live in US, and say you did that, sorry I don't buy it.

No professional driver from any major publication has achieved that time... and those guys do it for a LIVING, not a hobbie. These guys are the guys driving Vipers to 12s, Porsche 911 GT2s to 11's.... and people who's been testing cars for probably longer than you've been alive.

If you are capable of doing 15.8s, in a car that's 2400+lb, with only 127 peak horsepower at the crank and 114lb of torque........ you should be a professional drag racer. And when you do become one, you will be the best damn professional drag racer in the world... you will be untouchable like Michael Jordan.

Now back to reality........................

 
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Not to disrespect you either, but... I drag race my 2K1 and have not even come close to what you claim to have run. Unfortunately, I can't get the link to the video to run the stupid video. It just sits there with the Windows Media Player logo...nothing seems to be loading. I am VERY interested in watching the video. I'm sure no one here will be skeptical of my best time of 17.386 @ 80.89 mph. Sorry man, but I can't believe that your that much of a better driver than me. Next time I will be in the 16s, but 15s???? Come on. Give me some details, so I can do that too!!! Can anybody get this video to work? Gotta see this.

The Website

 
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haha.. all i have to say is flame on.. j/k

stock or no stock .. maybe he's just a realy good driver. who cares.. i can't believe u guys just wasted like 4 pages of threads arguing back and forth.

lets all stop the fighting and get back to the good old days when we made fun of people with big spoilers and type-r stickers on a nissan maxima

 
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"No way that's a stock Civic"

Ummm, and tell me how isn't it stock?

Hey I live in New Jersey, if you want I can GLADLY show you the actualy videotape of the run. Then you'll see it's stock.

BTW, if that wasn't me how'd I get the video, and my 6 other timeslips? Maybe after I saw a Civic run that run I ran after him and stole his slips? No, on each slip it has the racer number, my number is 6087. I have the card, it says number 6087. SO how could that not been me?

Hey, another thing...it's not stock eh? How did I film my car a few days after and it was completly stock? Magic?

 
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Greating about nitrous systems... you dont know its there unless you go and inspect under the hood. Please quit saying you proved your car was stock with a video, because its ovbious that it really proves nothing other then that specific car:

A) looks stock (wow.. mine does too other then the rims and drop, yet i run low 14s)
B) Runs said time in the 1/4 mile.

Im not saying that you WERNT stock at the time, however, your defense for the subject is severly lacking.

 
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I am not going to argue over hwoody's time slip. However, maybe he got a fast vic from the factory. It's no secret that when a car is mass produced that a certain percentage will be faster than the others, some will be slower, and most will perform exactly where they are supposed to. Maybe he got lucky and got one of the faster ones and is an excellent driver. Just some food for thought.

 
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<< I am not going to argue over hwoody's time slip. However, maybe he got a fast vic from the factory. It's no secret that when a car is mass produced that a certain percentage will be faster than the others, some will be slower, and most will perform exactly where they are supposed to. Maybe he got lucky and got one of the faster ones and is an excellent driver. Just some food for thought. >>



this is true. It has been known to happen. Once in a while a factory freak is produced due to the variance in production specs and tolerences. This isnt something youd see on say a 911 turbo or a ferrari, but its more then normal (even though it is pretty rare) too see it in under $40K production cars.

 
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Hwoody I believe you! Don't listen to the flamers flaming your time. I did the same thing as you when I was bone stock, now im still mostly stock, havent improved too much. There are FOUR of us on this forum running 15s. If people can't believe it, then chill. And lay off on Neo, he's never called BS on my times... I'm not going to waste time posting timeslips and videos on the internet. If people believe me.. fine. If they don't... fine. It's the internet... half the flamers don't even have cars and sit around beating their meat to pictures of riced out civics. If anyone calls BS on you, challenge them. Tell them to meet up wiht you, if they can't drive their cars, its not your problem.

 
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And for the ignorant ones another thing, there are 3-4 people on this forum in the 15s, myself and HWOODY included. There are MANY, MANY MORE in the low 16s. The people with low 16sec times have a 60' of say... 2.4-2.5. Mine is a high 2.2x. I've had lower with worse ETs. Now common math would tell you that a 16.1 run w/ a 2.5 60'. Subtract .3... you will then have a 15.8 run w/ a 2.2 60'. Use math people, and drive yoru stick cars. It's not that hard.

 
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Hey Joe, in the video I have showing my stock engine, it shows that their are no nitrous injectors, or nozzles. I go directed to the intake and intake manifold and it has no holes or anything...

 
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Still trying to see the video. Can someone help me out there? Are you guys at sea level? Not trying to flame anyone, just can't duplicate that kind of performance. Neither can the pros at the the magazines. Just a skeptic that wants to see the video.

Good News!

 
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Like I said.

Always miracle times on fourms.

Go on an Echo site, people are probably doing 14's........

Why not? Bone stock Prelude guys are saying they can........ $hit, I've even seen a guy in a GTi VR6 claim he does 13's, bone STOCK.. and yeah, he has videos and slips to prove it.

In fact, they all do.

Gotta love the internet.

 
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This is exactly the reason I do not visit this forum often anymore. Someone comes up with some good news about their runs at the drag strip, and noone believes him (almost). Flaming occurs, and the thread goes nowhere. I, personally, believe him. He's got a video of all this evidence that you all requested for; what more do you want from the man?

02Celica, you're a fvcking moron. You said, you would apologize and leave him alone if you see evidence. He did exactly what you wanted, proved your silly *** wrong, and I guess your pride took such a low-blow that you had to continue to flame him and say stuff like, "Oh, that must not be you in the video!!", or like, "It's a Civic! No way it can run that stock!! YOU LIE!". 15.8 isn't that great. Yes, for a stock Civic, it's pretty amazing. But with proper timing, a DECENT launch (no wheel spin, as in the video), it can be done.

Maybe it's just too bad that you're such a bad driver that you can't get such times even with a Celica. Maybe you're jealous. Maybe you're just an as$hole. Just quit doubting the guy like he's a freaking criminal. You've got no reason to.

 
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<< Yes, for a stock Civic, it's pretty amazing. But with proper timing, a DECENT launch (no wheel spin, as in the video), it can be done >>



Hey no offense... but who the fu*k are you? Are you a physics professor? How do you know it CAN be done? You seem so sure about it, like you have a math formula laid out.

Maybe it can't be done, and it's impossible. And maybe that Civic ISN'T stock... or there's an ERROR with the drag strip's clocking devices (seen that MANY times).

So for you to say IT CAN BE DONE....... without PROPER evidence........

Take it as it is. Something you read on a Civic fourm.

 
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If he was running nitrous, wouldn't his et be a lil better than 15.8????

How many times are you guys going to debate this. Some people will never believe anything. If I posted that I smoked a geo metro, I bet some would flame me saying that it isn't possible. Some of you have a stick so far up your *** you're going to need surgery to have it removed! In other words, if someone smacked you in the head with a crowbar, the crowbar would be the one that got hurt!

Let this sheite go. Nobody is going to win here.

 
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I'm not a physics professor, but as i said BEFORE many ppl are running 16.1s, 15.8-16.1 = not a big diff. 16.1 - .3 off your launch = 15.8. I say again LEARN HOW TO LAUNCH YOUR CAR!

 
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personally, i don't think you beat ****. there is no way within god's creation that you could of taken that thing. If that kid had an exhaust, there is a chance he could of had more, like an intake and headers too.
please, don't push heat

 
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I give out props to all who claim they run high 15s to low 16s with the 2k Civic EXs. However, to the haters in disbelief. Would you all believe me if I said I ran a 16.1 with a 1986 Acura Integra RS, 166,000 miles, leaky headgasket, low compression, semi broken shift linkage (causing me to miss third gear every run), and only a muffler on the back? well, i did, that was my old car. im sure i couldve had that puppy in the 15s if i was able to swap in the ZC. The Integra weighs roughly 2350 lbs and only has 113 HP and 98 TQ. Considering the mileage and condition, It should be a slug. But it was fairly quick. Unfortunately she passed, but thats another story. Just saying that runnin a 15.8 or 15.7 is not impossible. Either its a factory freak car, or excellent driver (im assuming we have a few excellent drivers on the forum that pulled those times) OR the rest of you cant drive. I havent dragged my 2k2 Civic yet, but I too am lookin forward to seeing the 15s while im all stock. Think about it. And dont argue, such a waste of forum. On my old First Generation Integra forum, we never fought like this. That is just being immature. Peace.

 
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wait, i didn't know you were driving the new si hatchback, i thought you had the canadian ex coupe, my bad yo

 
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actually he does have the EX. To those of you who are flaming him, don't you have anything better to do? I mean, does it really matter that much to you?

 
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[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG], Damn I love this place. People, I really dont care if he did get a 15.8 or a 18.5, but this is fun watching some telling others not to flame eachother and they are doing the same.

 
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<< I'm not a physics professor, but as i said BEFORE many ppl are running 16.1s, 15.8-16.1 = not a big diff. 16.1 - .3 off your launch = 15.8. I say again LEARN HOW TO LAUNCH YOUR CAR! >>



And exactly how many people hae you SEEN running buddy??

more like you READ IT ON HERE

 
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How many have I seen personally at the tracks? Four... They aren't on this forum though, one will be as soon as he gets his DSL installed but the other two despise PCs.

Me... 15.704
Erin.. 16.122
Anthony...15.929
Jesse... 16.230

Thoes are 5 speed EX's in my racing team. I'm not going to scan any slips for internet arguing. If you want to make a challenge, meet up wiht me... We will all be happy to give you a go.

 
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Anyway, everybody, S.T.F.U............ Civic EX is slower than RSX. I don't give a $hit if you can pull of 14 flat, a stock EX will ALAWYS be slowerly than stock RSX... or an RSX w/exhaust for that matter.

It's pretty hurting that you come on here and talk so much $hit.. you're always going to have idiots with the same car backing your story up.

Why don't you go onto an RSX site and TRY to convince them that a Civic EX is faster than an RSX???

Yeach, I thought so.

 
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<< If he was running nitrous, wouldn't his et be a lil better than 15.8????
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No, and ill tell you why. The only thing I saw that makes me think the car wasnt stock was the 60' time on said timeslip. To be more specific, the 60' time was TERRABLE. High 2 second 60' times do not a good run make, as was the case here. If you know anything about the physics of drag racing, you know that your launch will make or brake your run.
That being said, a STOCK 2k1 civic is not going to run 15 anything with a bad launch. This is proven time and time again by the members of this board. Infact NO stock USDM civic is going to run 15s with a bad launch. Even people with Sis run low 16s when their 60' times are in the high 2 second range... but I digress.
Now, how do you ask, does someone pull such a crappy 60' and still run faster then what the car should in its stock form, even with a more proper launch? Easy answer is nitrous. It can either be due to a launch on the N20 which caused wheel spin/hop effectivly limiting its off the line traction and allowing the 60' time to become crap while then allowing the car to make up for said launch with the extra juice its getting after traction is found. OR, secondly the nitrous could have been activated from 2nd gear on, allowing there to be a bad launch, yet a high ET and trap speed. I suppose you could also go with the traction theory, and sunstitute other modifications for the N20, but i find that less likely.

On another note, unless you REALLY get into my engine bay, and you know exactly what to look for you not going to find any nitrous components. And thats not an accident.

 
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Yes all... I never said that EX is faster than RSX stock, nor did I say that you can hit 15s with a bad launch. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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<< If he was running nitrous, wouldn't his et be a lil better than 15.8????
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No, and ill tell you why. The only thing I saw that makes me think the car wasnt stock was the 60' time on said timeslip. To be more specific, the 60' time was TERRABLE. High 2 second 60' times do not a good run make, as was the case here. If you know anything about the physics of drag racing, you know that your launch will make or brake your run.
That being said, a STOCK 2k1 civic is not going to run 15 anything with a bad launch. This is proven time and time again by the members of this board. Infact NO stock USDM civic is going to run 15s with a bad launch. Even people with Sis run low 16s when their 60' times are in the high 2 second range... but I digress.
Now, how do you ask, does someone pull such a crappy 60' and still run faster then what the car should in its stock form, even with a more proper launch? Easy answer is nitrous. It can either be due to a launch on the N20 which caused wheel spin/hop effectivly limiting its off the line traction and allowing the 60' time to become crap while then allowing the car to make up for said launch with the extra juice its getting after traction is found. OR, secondly the nitrous could have been activated from 2nd gear on, allowing there to be a bad launch, yet a high ET and trap speed. I suppose you could also go with the traction theory, and sunstitute other modifications for the N20, but i find that less likely.

On another note, unless you REALLY get into my engine bay, and you know exactly what to look for you not going to find any nitrous components. And thats not an accident. >>



Hot damn! Thanks for clearing that up for me. That's very interesting. Hmmm....maybe something is under the hood....

 
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haha...[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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Ummm, did you not see the video of my engine bay?

To all those who believe thank you, to those that don't...I don't know. I have nothing else to say...I beat a RSX and I am happy.

 
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Hwoody77: still can't get that video to happen. Could you email it to me? Thanks.

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