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i will agree somewhat here. i too would love a car that runs 10's or 9's for that matter and still be driven home. but i wouldnt want that car to only be able to run times on a 1/4 track. i also love handling and playing with cars around turns or what ever. i would not build a car for street use that doesnt handle good in spirited driving. a car needs to be well rounded IMO. in the vic i would rather build suspension and braking and maybe do some autocross but the teg will have the best of both worlds. i want to run 10's yet still be streetable in a since that it can handle as much spirited driving as i can throw at it. there is no point in build a STREET car that is only good for a straight line

 
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Why is there no point in building a street car only for a straight line? Let me ask you this. If you built your car all around, with handling and speed in mind for the STREET, how often would you even use the handling part? I know where i live, i would NEVER use the handling part. But also, i might surprise some of you guys with how well my car handles, with just a few bolt on suspension parts. And i'm sick of this i built my vic for handling. Is that the real reason, or is it because they are too expensive to make fast?

 
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i had plans to make it fast and then i realized that it would cost $10k to swap and i dont want to spend that on this car. i have another that is being built for speed. the "familycar" is built to handle. th eteg will be the hp monster. i am a very spirited driver. i love the round about on ramps i love to take corners fast when they are clear and i wont build a STREET car for a straight line. you build you car how you want and ill build mine how i want

 
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I think it's that the engine's are DOHC rather then SOHC plus the added .3L, that help make it a louder engine. I remember test driving a base and type-s rsx and noticing the louder engine roar. I also think the mounts come into play here too. Noise passes through vibration and with the increased stiffness in the mounts the engine will sound louder too.

How do you think I feel with a straight 3" pipe to the turbo muffler with no resonators or cat? Luckily I got the APexi WSII turbo muffler that gives flow with less noise (awesome muffler BTW).

That right there sums it up good, just add this too "you build whatever car you want and i'll build whatever car i want".

We're all tuners, modders, or whatever the fu<k you want to call it. Who seriously cares what car is modded, how it's modded, and what is it modded for? As long as it's not RICE, I can appreciate all modified cars/trucks.

 
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my car doesnt rattle or shake. i got the hasport street motor mounts. My K20A3 swap was about 10,000
Engine:AEM COLD AIR INTAKE (cut to fit)
Rev Hard Cast Iron Manifold
--Rev Hard T3T4 Turbo
--Rev Hard Intercooler (27x6.5x3)
--35mm External Wastegate(7psi)
--Blow-Off Valve
--2.25" Aluminized Mandrel Bent Piping
--2.5" Downpipe
--"Flash" ECU program - raises rev limit
--Hondata K-Pro
--550cc Fuel Injectors and OBD1 Wiring clips
--Silicone Hoses and Clamps
--Steel braided -3 Oil feed line
--Oil Return Line
Hasport ESK1 mounts
Koyo Radiator
*Royal Purlpe Fluids
Greddy Turbo Timer
Greddy Boost Controller
Autometer Tachometer Guage
Autometer Air/Fuel Guage
Ractive Dual Guage Pod Autometer Boost Guage
+Labor

 
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Ok here is my take on the matter ....

I would only do it if I had one of these...





Bolts right in with minimal work except a bit of exhaust and linkage work for the manual tranny...

I would deffinayely do the swap with this car and then add a turbo or supercharger and then kick some serious ***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What do you guys think

 
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How about everytime you use that round circle attached to your dash....

 
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Kornsined: I also think our cars seem louder because 1, we don't have sound deadners under our hoods from factory, 2, our cars are made out of sheet metal so the sounds follow through....

 
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And if you do swap and hate the extra noise, you can aways add soundproofing.....if you don't mind the extra weight that is

 
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Haha!! So you are telling us that if the car swerves everywhere in a straight line you're gonna leave it like that?? hahaha!!!!!!! Anyone can just drive straight but it takes skill to take corners and heel toe technique..........

 
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everyone has good ideas on weather or not to do it. i think you should though. and put a turbo on it. its a sleeper bassically. its the best feeling having a sleeper. if you turbo that motor your gonna be pushing like 500hp in that light *** car. easily whopping peoples *** thinking its just a regular civic. ive raced a k20 swapped civic its my friends. smoked me. and the rattle isnt that bad. its annoying but any car you swap will rattle. you get used to it though. go for it!

 
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I'm still receiving lots of PMs regarding the costs and benefits about a swap... Its just a matter of personal preference and other factors like how much money you have, and so on... if you're trying to save money, then its important to know what the swap exactly involves to the last penny and about oil changes, maintenance, fill-up costs, so on..

you purchase lets say decent civic for 10k, and drop another 10k to do a swap with a few compromises. You're at 20k and you hit 1/4 of 14. Its a really good time for a civic and a tricked out civic is definately cool on a track.

Or... you can drop 20k into a car like s2k, 350z, and so on which can easily hit 1/4 mile of 14 a little more effortlessly and you don't have to compromise with anything like ride quality, a/c, vibrations.

I took went for a road trip a couple of weeks back, and holly **** it was loud the whole way, with **** vibrating. To be honest, i love the noise and the vibrations on a friday nite when i go out for a ride, i LOVE it... feels like a race car. But... i'm for a daily driver, i'm not too sure. I just purchased another 7thgen, 2001 this time for a daily driver... but i know some ppl have their swapped civics as a daily driver so it is possible, just a matter of preference. I was spending too much on gas because the K takes higher octane, so thats another reason i bought a stock civic as a daily driver. Costs a li'l over 20 bucks to fill up.. i love it hehe. Hadn't driven a stock car in the longest time.

 
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Huh? When did i ever say anything even remotely close to that? Anyone can drive in a straight line? I'm sure they could, but some can launch better than others.

 
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Driving Fast, be it in a straigth line or through turns on the street is wreckless regarless. So the quesion could be where would you ever be able to use a 10 Second dag car on the street?... well, same place you could use a car that can pull 2G's in a turn. and that isnt on the street. Either at their extreams is pretty much worthless on the street. Power because its easy to abuse and Handling because a well tuned car is an unstable car... not something you'd want in an emergency situation.

In the end, the question about this engine swap would probably come down to is 200 or so HP too much for a FWD car? Doesnt seem like it, It would appear to simply make the car more enjoyable to drive. And given the inital expence has allready been made (they allready own or are makeing payments on the car) then why not invest a little more to make it a more enjoyable experiance?

As far as the people talking about modding the engine after its swaped... well then your looking at what could be considered more and more as a Track car, rather then a street car. And down that road you'll eventually find that you cant drive the car 10/10ths, except at the track. And trying to do so ends up just being wreckless and stupid (same goes for suspension tuners).

 
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I'll agree that both are wreckless driving, but i can use 10 second power at every single stop light if i wanted to, can't say that for turning. Granted i'm not going to be getting 10 second power to the ground on the street, its still much more common i should say, to be able to use that ability.

Example: How often do i see threads on this site or any other site that say, "raced a blah blah tonight from a 40 roll on the highway". Tons of times. How many times do i see threads that say, 'i pulled 2g's on the back roads to my house tonight". I can honestly say i've never seen a thread about it.

I think the question that should really be asked, is running high 13's at best, on a stock k20, worth $8,000? If you say yes, either you're loaded or i'll keep option b to myself, lol.

 
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So basically your saying that its better to drive like a jackass from light to light then it is to drive like a jackass out on some mountain road simply because you get to brag about who won the Light to light race.

 
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i think thats an extreme example. i think its a matter of opinion Nothing wrong with driving fast as long as no one is around you and u don't cause an accident where others get hurt.