Cobalt SS supercharged
I personally love the Cobalt SS. I drove one on a little track and I loved it, the clutch was a lil wierd but it was still a fun car to drive.
For those saying its a rebadged cavi., its really not, because the body lines are different. It DID replace the cavi. tho and the RSX-S is basically a luxary car vs. a basic car so obviously the interior is gonna be nicer which is why you pay a lot more which is why I didn't get one.
Either way I would take the cobalt over the SRT-4 just because the srt is a neoon.
For those saying its a rebadged cavi., its really not, because the body lines are different. It DID replace the cavi. tho and the RSX-S is basically a luxary car vs. a basic car so obviously the interior is gonna be nicer which is why you pay a lot more which is why I didn't get one.
Either way I would take the cobalt over the SRT-4 just because the srt is a neoon.
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Originally Posted by EManEX
I still don't know where some of you guys thought it was a post of an SS v's a RSX. As far as the original questions goes; why do people chose the SRT-4 over the Cobalt SS? I think, like it was stated before, that it has to do with marketing. The SRT-4 had always been marketed as a fast little car, the SS although it was compared to the little bother of the Corvette it never did get marketed for it's full potential. I would take the Cobalt, it is almost as fast as the SRT-4, better handling and more reliable imo.
And to that one guy: I am an auto enthusiast, not a Honda enthusiast. I can give respect when it's earned. IMHO, respect has not yet been earned by the Cobalt SS, and the SRT-4 is a different story(decent, fast car, most of the owners are just idiots).
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Originally Posted by stinkypie
And to that one guy: I am an auto enthusiast, not a Honda enthusiast. I can give respect when it's earned. IMHO, respect has not yet been earned by the Cobalt SS, and the SRT-4 is a different story(decent, fast car, most of the owners are just idiots).
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Originally Posted by stinkypie
I wouldn't take either of them simply because I don't really care about speed, just reliability. If I had to choose between the two of them, I would go with the SRT-4 simply because it isn't as new as the Cobalt. I've heard both horror stories and good stories about the SRT-4, all I've heard of the Cobalt SS are horror stories.
And to that one guy: I am an auto enthusiast, not a Honda enthusiast. I can give respect when it's earned. IMHO, respect has not yet been earned by the Cobalt SS, and the SRT-4 is a different story(decent, fast car, most of the owners are just idiots).
And to that one guy: I am an auto enthusiast, not a Honda enthusiast. I can give respect when it's earned. IMHO, respect has not yet been earned by the Cobalt SS, and the SRT-4 is a different story(decent, fast car, most of the owners are just idiots).
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The SS is the worst car... don't even get me started.
If you want power... honestly look into the SRT4. They're under rated from factory. My buddy has a stock SRT4 with a BOV and he ran a 13.8 at the track the other day. The thing is stupid fast... in addition to that, you can buy Mopar stage 1, 2, and 3 kits which retains your factory warranty!
If you want power... honestly look into the SRT4. They're under rated from factory. My buddy has a stock SRT4 with a BOV and he ran a 13.8 at the track the other day. The thing is stupid fast... in addition to that, you can buy Mopar stage 1, 2, and 3 kits which retains your factory warranty!
Originally Posted by 04hemiboy
You can a Recaro pkg in it.
Originally Posted by DUDEitsMATTx
so drive_fast_dail neons srt4 have 230whp 2 the wheels? lol no. i was at the beach today, with a friend that HAS an SRT4 and they are not as fast as people say, he even said its only right around 180-200 hp to the wheels! all hes got is a BOV..
Apex Technology 238 hp - at the wheels!
Do some research before you make yourself look stupid, dodge clamied 215 crank hp, the first dynoed srt made 233 at the wheels, if you go to google and search you will find this out for your self.
Id take an SS, I think they look hot. Its a cool little car if you ask me. I probably would have taken it over my 05 civic if i wanted to go that route, but i wanted the best gas milage i could, not the fun fast factor. Its not a bad car you guys just need to get out more and see theres more out there than a cheap little honda civic
I've always hated the interior ergonomics of domestic cars.
Cobalt included.
SRT4 is out of production.
Neons don't exist anymore.
It was replaced with the hatchback/suv Caliber.
Cobalt included.
SRT4 is out of production.
Neons don't exist anymore.
It was replaced with the hatchback/suv Caliber.
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actually its not a little car its kinda bulky my friend has one the interior is very cheaply made like i sed his motor already blew up and got replaced at 2k hes had tons of tranny problems and he doesnt even takke it to the track or beat on it the only mod it has is a cheap catback and the rims are huge and the car sits higher then my truck
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Originally Posted by Sinisterdexter
That only fixes the seats doesn't it? If it's the same interior as the LS it is still a POS. I didn't need to buy any special packages for my vic for it to have a nice interior.
Originally Posted by SilverVTEC
yea, but it is about 3k cheaper and you can buy a pulley kit from chevy that takes the boost to about 12-13psi! also it doesnt void warranty. and about the motor blowing up...that sucks for him, but the ecotec motor is one of the best out there!!!
12-13 PSI supercharger?
My personal experience has been that the Cobalt has a very cheap interior and lacks the umph factor. The srt-4 has a pretty decent kick when the turbo spools but, neither car is as nimble as i'd prefer. Also, the srt-4 is the furthest thing from a comfortable daily driver. Shifts aren't consistent, turning radius sucks, and the view from the driver's seat is terrible when turning/backing up. Never driven a type-s but I'd probably prefer it because of honda/acura's proven reputation. I could go on and on about the srt and even though i only drove the cobalt ss once, I was less satisfied with it than the srt fun factor wise.
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IMO
Any american car = shitty resale value
Any Japanese car = great resale value
You get what you pay for. Unfortuantely, the american auto manufacturers need consumers to buy their product by giving away a free toaster oven, x-box, 1000 bucks in free accessories, etc. You would think they would LOOK closely at what Toyota, Honda, Nissan have been doing and analyzing why their products hold their value way better then any domestic. They would not be in conversations like this NOR would they be closing plants, going bankrupt or cost cutting. The old farts running these companies have put them selves in a situation where they can't become a great resale value car without having to totally overhaul the whole company.
Buy your Cobalt SS and in 5 years, come back and tell us how it is. Sure it is good right now, but long term, you will be regretting your purchase or you would have sold it and have a really sore ***. You would have bent over and taken it dry, later look in your pockets and punch numbers on the calculator realizing you didn't even get your money's worth out of that ride for the amount of time you drove it.
IMO......of course.
Any american car = shitty resale value
Any Japanese car = great resale value
You get what you pay for. Unfortuantely, the american auto manufacturers need consumers to buy their product by giving away a free toaster oven, x-box, 1000 bucks in free accessories, etc. You would think they would LOOK closely at what Toyota, Honda, Nissan have been doing and analyzing why their products hold their value way better then any domestic. They would not be in conversations like this NOR would they be closing plants, going bankrupt or cost cutting. The old farts running these companies have put them selves in a situation where they can't become a great resale value car without having to totally overhaul the whole company.
Buy your Cobalt SS and in 5 years, come back and tell us how it is. Sure it is good right now, but long term, you will be regretting your purchase or you would have sold it and have a really sore ***. You would have bent over and taken it dry, later look in your pockets and punch numbers on the calculator realizing you didn't even get your money's worth out of that ride for the amount of time you drove it.
IMO......of course.
I have no experience with the SS, the market just didnt seem to want this car that bad. I would pick the SRT-4 though over it due to the Mopar support it has. Almost every part is available from Mopar and you know it is factory proven and will work. If done right, SRT-4's can be very fast, but the car has gained a bad reputation by the people who buy them. Stage 3, supporting mods, drag radials and properly driven will hit 11's all day. And it gets old hearing everyone say "The SRT is ugly or the SS is ugly", well you know what, it is still faster then your Honda. Just my .02 cents
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you say all that and expect to not be laughed away? the fact: it is the same exact engine/tranny as in the pt loser....so explain why you think that chassis of the srt-poor will rip itself up?
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Originally Posted by isuzu5000
lets keep in mind that just because it is a cobalt ss does not mean it is supercharged...just thought i'd throw that in there.
Originally Posted by isuzu5000
lets keep in mind that just because it is a cobalt ss does not mean it is supercharged...just thought i'd throw that in there.
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Originally Posted by drive_fast_dail
Yeah it stands for Super Sport, and badging has been around for a while if anyone was curious.
Originally Posted by drive_fast_dail
Yeah the SRT4's havent had the greatest track record yet. Dodge quality sucks to being with, and even if the tranny can handle it for something like a PT cruiser they are putting it in the hands of people who are going to drive hard with the SRT4. And the most recent power claim has been 230 hp 250 torque, and ive heard nearly that to the wheels, saw 223 somewhere.
Originally Posted by 04hemiboy
He's was meaning you can get a SS that's not SuperCharged.
Originally Posted by Hoosier282
Are you saying that the SRT tranny cant handle that power? Just curious
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Originally Posted by drive_fast_dail
Oh, I didnt understand that sorry. When did they start doing that pretty weird now. They have a 1SS and a 2SS. The 1 being the 2.4L with 171 hp, guess pretty much the Solstice/Sky engine, and the 2 is the 2.0L supercharged. I didnt think it started out that way, at least I know the Ion redline is only supercharged.




