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Last time I had this much fun some furniture got broken!
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well honestly just tell them you need hard scientific proof that the modifications caused the damage. If they can BS through that, then they have you. If not, you win
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the cost of pushing you away is nothing with letters and ****, you'll have to pull out the big guns and show them that you will cost them money (legal fees to defend against your claim) to get your point across.
the cost of pushing you away is nothing with letters and ****, you'll have to pull out the big guns and show them that you will cost them money (legal fees to defend against your claim) to get your point across.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
wow that was fast!
I would have gotten it done faster but the cold was working against me 80,000 btu heater has nothing on 10 degrees. So i was an icecube laying on the concrete floor for 2 days but its over now. Now all thats left to do is fight honda and hope for some money in my pocket. 
Originally Posted by MajinB
ok, lets get back to reality. honda does not "promote" modding. they have Mugen for that, and HFP stuff. if anything they are against it.
ok, so they ran that "civic nation" commercial and that made every idiot think a civic is a supercar in a box. yes that was a mistake. but that was like a decade ago. i have not seen a honda advertiesment from actual HONDA with a modded civic EVER. HFP is not considered "modded" cause its NOT aftermarket.
mugen is straight from the factory too
ok, so they ran that "civic nation" commercial and that made every idiot think a civic is a supercar in a box. yes that was a mistake. but that was like a decade ago. i have not seen a honda advertiesment from actual HONDA with a modded civic EVER. HFP is not considered "modded" cause its NOT aftermarket.
mugen is straight from the factory too
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Originally Posted by 1badasstsi
when the HELL did you put nitrous on man? i definitely wanna roll with u on saturday! haha
Damn man. I know me and scansel have the same color car and all but... My name is slow gold and unless i put my bottle in today im still NA on motor #2. Also how the hell would i of had time to get to the track and find out my 1320. 
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Originally Posted by stinkypie
Scion tC for example:
Supercharger,exhaust - TRD
intake, battery tie down, billet oil filler cap - AEM
shift *****, sport pedals - OBX
strut tie bar - Hotchkis Tuning
18" wheels - EMX
B-pillar applique - Superior Dash
Everything else is actually made by Toyota. TRD is technically a division of Toyota as well.
I work in Toyota parts, sorry.
Supercharger,exhaust - TRD
intake, battery tie down, billet oil filler cap - AEM
shift *****, sport pedals - OBX
strut tie bar - Hotchkis Tuning
18" wheels - EMX
B-pillar applique - Superior Dash
Everything else is actually made by Toyota. TRD is technically a division of Toyota as well.
I work in Toyota parts, sorry.
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Originally Posted by scansel912
Come on you can't be serious... Thats why you see honda banners all around NOPI events. NOPI is the epiphany of modding sport compacts. You even mention the civic nation commercial which made it seem like its ok to mod your car if you buy a honda.
Not only that but the dealer that I get my parts from has a mat on the counter with there hfp sponsored civic drag car. They know that these cars are bought and modded by alot of people. This is imo why scion went with dealer aftermarket parts that will not void a warranty. I think its the smartest thing a import car builder could have done. Not only do you feel like you are not wrong in creating a different car in a way but now you do not have to hide it. Honestly i think honda did this just to weed out those who are not willing to fight it. Like 3 of 10 maybe wise enough to fight it but the rest of them they get to weasel out of paying any thing. Btw slow gold stick it to em buddy and get your money back!
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Rep Power: 258 I just got off the phone with them A$$holes from honda and they are trying to tell me that the magnussun act only applies to new cars. Is this true do i still have a chance. Also after looking through my warranty i found that they dont cover the exhaust system anyway so why would it matter if i mod it.
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Originally Posted by Slow Gold
I just got off the phone with them A$$holes from honda and they are trying to tell me that the magnussun act only applies to new cars. Is this true do i still have a chance. Also after looking through my warranty i found that they dont cover the exhaust system anyway so why would it matter if i mod it.
It applies to Warrentys.. thats it. If its new, Used what ever, if you have a Warrenty (NOT A SERVICE CONTRACT) then it applies.
Read your contract, there is a section on "whats not covered" read it, understand it. Notice that it says just about the exact same thing as the Magnuson act (assuming you've read that).
BUt like I said, that act only applies to Warrentys (which are provided by the Factory Not the dealership, which sells Extended Service Contracts)
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Originally Posted by gearbox
well like said above, it has to be the original 3 year warranty. so if your car is over 3 yrs old, that act doesn't apply.
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Rep Power: 380 So yes, You have an Extended Service Contract, in which the Magnuson act doesnt apply.
as far as going to arbitration... How much did it cost to repair the car? as thats the amount that you'll be able to get from Honda if you win. But it will cost you $100-$200 to fight them through arbitration.
as far as going to arbitration... How much did it cost to repair the car? as thats the amount that you'll be able to get from Honda if you win. But it will cost you $100-$200 to fight them through arbitration.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
So yes, You have an Extended Service Contract, in which the Magnuson act doesnt apply.
as far as going to arbitration... How much did it cost to repair the car? as thats the amount that you'll be able to get from Honda if you win. But it will cost you $100-$200 to fight them through arbitration.
as far as going to arbitration... How much did it cost to repair the car? as thats the amount that you'll be able to get from Honda if you win. But it will cost you $100-$200 to fight them through arbitration.
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Rep Power: 380 That would help,
If you go through arbitration, what you are going to be asked is the Value of the claim. That Value will then determin how much AAA is going to charge to Arbitrate that claim. Mine was $1900 and the total cost of arbitration was around $250 (honda covers half of that cost).
once the claim is posted and paid for, AAA will asign an arbitrator to the case. At that point you will send in your inital Argument, This is VERY important, Treat this exactly as if you were in court. NEVER admit any guilt in any thing. Simply state the facts, and disclose what you had "modified" on the car. Honda Care is going to claim that your modifications alter the performance of the car, and they are going to try to say you are a street racer or what not. Basically any thing to get the arbitrator to side with them. Dont Bite in to what they say, Reply to ONLY the Technical things that you can prove. NEVER mention any thing aobut how or where you drive and Do not respond to any thing about Racing. Stick to What failed and how Noting on the car could have Caused or Contributed to that failure.
If you go through arbitration, what you are going to be asked is the Value of the claim. That Value will then determin how much AAA is going to charge to Arbitrate that claim. Mine was $1900 and the total cost of arbitration was around $250 (honda covers half of that cost).
once the claim is posted and paid for, AAA will asign an arbitrator to the case. At that point you will send in your inital Argument, This is VERY important, Treat this exactly as if you were in court. NEVER admit any guilt in any thing. Simply state the facts, and disclose what you had "modified" on the car. Honda Care is going to claim that your modifications alter the performance of the car, and they are going to try to say you are a street racer or what not. Basically any thing to get the arbitrator to side with them. Dont Bite in to what they say, Reply to ONLY the Technical things that you can prove. NEVER mention any thing aobut how or where you drive and Do not respond to any thing about Racing. Stick to What failed and how Noting on the car could have Caused or Contributed to that failure.
regardless of where the warranty came from it does state directly in the warranty the part has to contribute to or cause the problem. the parts you had on did not contribute to the failure of the motor. FIGHT IT! make them eat their words and their own warranty. you are entitled to it as you purchased the warranty with the car.
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Rep Power: 258 Alright check this out i just called honda they said
new motor - 4650.92
labor for 1 out 1 in - 14 hrs - 1200.00
Wow am i glad i did that myself i did it 2 hours faster and 5350.00 cheaper
new motor - 4650.92
labor for 1 out 1 in - 14 hrs - 1200.00
Wow am i glad i did that myself i did it 2 hours faster and 5350.00 cheaper
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Originally Posted by Slow Gold
Alright check this out i just called honda they said
new motor - 4650.92
labor for 1 out 1 in - 14 hrs - 1200.00
Wow am i glad i did that myself i did it 2 hours faster and 5350.00 cheaper
new motor - 4650.92
labor for 1 out 1 in - 14 hrs - 1200.00
Wow am i glad i did that myself i did it 2 hours faster and 5350.00 cheaper
LOL!! That's more than an 8 cylinder mercedes engine!!
Go Honda! They doubled the standard labor rates as well.
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Rep Power: 0 Wait, have you already swapped in your new engine? If so, that might create a whole new barrel of problems as you would have essentially voided the warranty on the entire thing, even if you do win at arbitration (for example) wouldn't you have already effectively voided your entire warranty.
Insofar as all these costs are concerned, if your new engine is ~$500 total and arbitration will cost you $250 plus all the time and effort you have to put into it, just swallow the costs, as it probably won't be worth the hassle. Especially if, as stated above, the factory warranty isn't applicable anymore and you only have an extended service contract.
Insofar as all these costs are concerned, if your new engine is ~$500 total and arbitration will cost you $250 plus all the time and effort you have to put into it, just swallow the costs, as it probably won't be worth the hassle. Especially if, as stated above, the factory warranty isn't applicable anymore and you only have an extended service contract.
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No power steering or a/c, just alt and crank.
The temp. fix for no power steering.
Sorry if they were 2 big, they were cool on my computer I didnt have to scroll back and forth to see them, they were just extra big.
No power steering or a/c, just alt and crank.
The temp. fix for no power steering.
Sorry if they were 2 big, they were cool on my computer I didnt have to scroll back and forth to see them, they were just extra big.
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