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Old Dec 15, 2005
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just got car back from dealer (update)

They were swapping a stock head for the junk DH head that was on there before and causing coolant to burn. Took em two days and they charged me around $540 for labor and a couple bolts. I supplied all the parts and a stock head that was cleaned and resurfaced.

hmm well finally got it at 3pm today, not very happy. there is still air in the coolant that didn't get fixed, okay not that bad but we'll see if it still burns coolant. they tightened everything too much and some spark plugs had 25ftlbs others had 1ftlbs. the airbox bolts were so tight i needed a socket wrench to remove, header bolts needed breaker bar and i had to change the header back to stock cause they forgot. They dented my fender near the hood and left oil and coolant all over the grill, engine ground wire hanging in front of the radiator fans, and oil level at the bare minimum so i need more tomorrow. tranny dipstick hanging out of its hole, I spent 3 hrs today in the snow fixing their slop.

Does anyone know if the water noises (coolant going through heater core) is normal? cause its still doing it.

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dang. that sucks.tell the manager what they did. give it a day or two for the coolant
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damn....you should ahve complained while you were there...when they call to do the review survey bitch like a bat out of hell....

I've never heard the noise....I have only changed my 'water' once @30k miles...will be time here again near january....(60k) you check your p.s. fluid? i know a lot of noises come out of that whole damn contraption....
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running water noises?
That sounds like air.
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i'd go back and complain. $540 for that kind of work, what work?
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running water noises?
That sounds like air.
I had a similar problem. When I first joined the site, there were threads on it. I dont remember how I got rid of that problem.... sorry.
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i did the coolant bleed (even had the car jacked up) and it didnt fix it.
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the coolant you hear in the heater core is normal. my car came fromt the factory like that. its not a problem but can be annoying i guess. what happened to your plans to do the head swap yourself?
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my car did the running water bit when it was new. I added coolant and it went away.
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my dad offered to pay for some of it if i take it in. he didn't think i could do it and didn't want me to waste time and waiting til next summer. anyway i'm really pissed now. they decided to keep my aem cam gear. I just noticed it wasn't in the car. oh boy i am throwing a fit tomorrow. if the install guy can't even install spark plugs and learn how to use a torque wrench, makes me wonder what else he couldn't do.
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my dad offered to pay for some of it if i take it in. he didn't think i could do it and didn't want me to waste time and waiting til next summer. anyway i'm really pissed now. they decided to keep my aem cam gear. I just noticed it wasn't in the car. oh boy i am throwing a fit tomorrow. if the install guy can't even install spark plugs and learn how to use a torque wrench, makes me wonder what else he couldn't do.
holy ****, i'd be PISSED, ask them if they used to work for dh racing.
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damn gear, i feel bad for you. Thats why DIY is sometimes the only way to go. If you gotta get it right, you gotta do it yourself. I would talk to the GM of the dealership, screw the mangers!
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oh yea and the accessory belts squeak, and the idle was messed up cause they never did the idle learn.
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jesus god, i have never changed a head on our cars, have on other but not this and i bet i could do a better job (not at stealing your cam gear tho)
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i really think i could have done the work. i went through all the specs and I had everything laid out how to remove it. I bet most of us could do a better job. And they keep telling me its a 6-8 hr job and meanwhile I remember turboengnr posting that it takes him 2-3 hours. I hate auto mechanics so much. And i also found out from tinman that an auto tranny maybe takes a few hours to pull apart and the shops lie and say its gonna be a week or two and charge $3000. Dam shops are always out to rip you off and in my case, i would be back next summer for a new motor when the ground wire gets jammed in the cooling fan or the spark plug comes out of the hole and overheated the engine, or the oil wasn't high enough. unacceptable.
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take notes so when you go in tomorrow you'll have everything in order and wont forget something that they did wrong, stole, broke, didn't do, etc.
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ya i have 12 items written down. we'll see what happens. oh they charged me for a new battery cover cause i wanted one (old was cracked and coolant stains) but they didn't give me that either. seriously this is the last straw. i am doing my own oil change in the parking lot and everytime I take the used oil to them I will say there is another $30 you lost out on due to your pos mechanics.
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ouch. good luck. please tell me results. if they try to screw you some more, take pics. then go to the BBB(better business bearueo)spelling on the last word.
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ya i have 12 items written down. we'll see what happens. oh they charged me for a new battery cover cause i wanted one (old was cracked and coolant stains) but they didn't give me that either. seriously this is the last straw. i am doing my own oil change in the parking lot and everytime I take the used oil to them I will say there is another $30 you lost out on due to your pos mechanics.
hahaha i would laugh so hysterically if i saw that in real life, seeing someone like waving it in their face, "oooooo you smell that,oh yea, money you lost out on cuz of those retards"

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lol i wish i took pics because now they might deny it. the car had tons of salt on it tho so i had to spray it off. i wish i took a pic of the big oil fingerprint right where the dent was. stupid me. or take a pic of me holding the ground wire covered in oil. oh yea and there is oil trapped under my kaminari grill that i have to take the bumper off to clean tomorrow.
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my airbox is scratched, i think thats all for now. thats all i could find out today. and he played with my turbo timer and used up gas from 1/2 tank down to the gas light coming on. and charged me an extra hour to put the timing cover on, and charged me $20 to order two bolts that i was missing.
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unfreakingbelivable!!! that's an outrage! if i lived near you i'd go with you and raise up a storm. WOW.....
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you have air trapped in the heater core...you have to get to it and get the air out...u might have to do a full coolant flush again...if not ur gonna have to check for any air leaks in your cylinder head
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they over-charge so they can get paid lol.....that blows dude, i would definitly complain
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wow, thats bullshit. go in and pwn them tomorrow. and cover the ground wire in oil again and smudge some oil on the fender, then take pics.
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gearbox you should get that mofoquer fired and if not, just beat his face with your cam gear.
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the funny thing is the service guy was explaining how the guy doing it has so many years experience bla bla and i had to force em to do it because at first they said we can't work on it you replaced the stock exhaust manifold bla. i wanted to phone slap him. just shows how uneducated they are.
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well so far i'm the one getting owned. the service guy that i talked to took the day off, the the mechanic called in sick. So i gotta go back monday. now i talked to the service manager, he says he finds me very hard to believe because all his mechanics have been working for a long time, wtf? i start going through my list, he says you should have not fixed anything. oh okay i'll just drive around with low oil, no ground wire, and loose plugs. brilliant! well he can't understand what i'm saying about low oil and dents, so he says make appt with the service and they will fix the problems on your list. i'm like well most of them are fixed already by me. and i'm worried now what other problems there are. so when i go monday i'm gonna tell em not to do the things i fixed. anyway i know as soon as i get it back and check the plug torque they're all gonna be at 30ftlbs and the oil is gonna be overflowing. and i still didn't get my dam cam gear back. oh yea and the service tech i talked to was saying well this is why we don't work on modified cars. wtf?? so because i have a different top portion header (which is stock now) and exhaust, they should leave the oil low? wow makes perfect sense! oh and get this, the mechanic that worked on my car is the best they have!!! hahaha lolol

someone give me a corporate number i can call i'm pissed
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