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Old Dec 1, 2005
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Originally Posted by fiatdale
Yeah, but heres a thought, dont open the damn sunroof with the roof or windshield wet. Id get soaked in my EX if i drove with the roof open just after it rained too. Not stupid GM, its a cool design that I bet we will see on other makes too.

And my 05 EX roof takes at least 15 seconds to open and its a small *** opening.
15 seconds to open that sunroof, mine takes like 5 seconds, i think ur exaggerating a bit much on that one or urs is fvcked up
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noobs, thats all gm is
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Originally Posted by _Viper_

Man I was pissed off , the sales guy was like oh its ok it will dry , I then proceeded to grab his nuts and tight them as hard as i could till he screamed like a little girl

Fvucking GM


rep for you, that just made me crack up as i read the post.
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Viper's right about the sunroof thing. I had my sun roof tilted up in light rain and i never got wet. I even had it tilted up when the car was parked and it rained and no water got inside.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
Viper's right about the sunroof thing. I had my sun roof tilted up in light rain and i never got wet. I even had it tilted up when the car was parked and it rained and no water got inside.
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LOL old man. you are only 34! thats not old. not yet!
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American cars suck, period.
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Yeah, my drivers door is poorly designed as well. When I opened it a bunch of snow fell inside onto my seat. Oh wait, thats because it had just snowed and I was an idiot for not clearing it off, or expecting the snow to fall in.

Seriously, don't blame the design. Blame the user. The sales guy should have known that there would be water on top if it had just rained. Clearly the pano roof is meant for very nice weather. The design could be better, but at least they tried something new. I've heard there are lots of problems with this roof, but no reason to go around bashing GM engineers and cars in general. Not all of the G6's have the panoramic roof. Its an option. You don't like it. You don't order it. Simple as that.
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merican car manufacturers suck, they need to learn a little bit more of Japan's quality circle.
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American car manufacturers suck, they need to learn a little bit more of Japan's quality circle.
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i hate to tell you this, but Toyota is just as stupid, their dual panoramic sunroof not only got me wet in the front but also the people in the back! So its not just GM, and i think its a very interesting idea too!
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Originally Posted by JP375
Yeah, my drivers door is poorly designed as well. When I opened it a bunch of snow fell inside onto my seat. Oh wait, thats because it had just snowed and I was an idiot for not clearing it off, or expecting the snow to fall in.

Seriously, don't blame the design. Blame the user. The sales guy should have known that there would be water on top if it had just rained. Clearly the pano roof is meant for very nice weather. The design could be better, but at least they tried something new. I've heard there are lots of problems with this roof, but no reason to go around bashing GM engineers and cars in general. Not all of the G6's have the panoramic roof. Its an option. You don't like it. You don't order it. Simple as that.
oh yea i forgot to mention that everytime it rains and i get into my fregging car, water has too roll down the roof and onto my F@!#$!%$ SEAT! that is a stupid design.
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Hey BTW I clocked how fast our sunroofs open in the vic and guess what ...

It takes between 4 and 5 seconds to fully open !!!!!!!!!!!
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You wasted 5 sec of your life on timing a sunroof? LOL
You could of took 10 pics for us..LOL
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Whyd you test drive hte G6? Just to see what it was like? You bought a CSX didnt you?
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Originally Posted by boricua_civic
American car manufacturers suck, they need to learn a little bit more of Japan's quality circle.
Blame that on outsourcing. When was it that cars sold in north america had to have at least 50-60% made in N.A. Well that has changed it's now like 5-10% made in N.A. Where'd all that money from the market go?
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Actually it has more to do with philosophy than American engineering when it comes to cars dying in five years (the sunroof, however, was just horrible engineering =P)

Products are usually deliberately made to break after a certain number of years, because they want people to keep buying more. Imagine if cars lasted 20-30 years--car companies would make a lot less money. Hence, they do stress tests 'n such to make sure they break in 4-5 years. Why do you think they break right after you finish your payments?

Of course, it's a stupid philosophy, as people caught on and now stick with Honda/Toyota. US automakers thought they could get away by making cheaper products at lower cost, but it came back at them. GM cutting jobs comes as no surprise.

In a non-car example, Sony has been feeling the blows of their stupid tricks. Aside from TVs, many of their products (esp. Walkmans) are now outsourced to Malaysia and have considerably lower quality--but they thought they could get away with that and still charge the same premium price. Hence their electronics division has been losing money for years, and their games division is the only thing keeping them afloat.

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I could not agree with you more about what you posted on this great forum of ours.I have converted my wife to the reality of owning,driving and experiencing Honda's and now we own 2 7th Gen Honda's.01 civic and 05 Accord.Both belonging to the MTC!
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haha marc...one questions is why did you go take a look at an american car in the first place? hahaha
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All of you really need to get out more and expand your mind and stop thinking inside the Honda circle. Yes they are good cars but definitely not the best. Quit the American bashing and grow up
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look all (well, most) of you say GM sucks because u either havent owned one or u hear rumors or what not. my family has been a chevy family for a long time and we have had cars left and right.....when i got my 7th gen i made them look on how much more quality a foreign vehicle has......but GM,Ford,DODGE......they try or have tried to make compacts but do not succed because people prefer hondas......now when it comes to V8's u cant compare ANY foreign vehicle to that........just my .02


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Originally Posted by ragingSPAM
haha marc...one questions is why did you go take a look at an american car in the first place? hahaha
Well i wanted to see the GTP but my heart is set on the CSX and yes we have sole our civic for 24500 and we owe 20 000 on it so 4 500 dollars deposit on the CSX.....


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Ya hondas are very well made cars. The only problem is that if you have enough sense to drive a car then you should have enough sense to not open the sunroof with water on the roof of the car. Its hard for me to believe that an experienced car salesman did that but if he did...hes retarded lol.
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Originally Posted by fiatdale
All of you really need to get out more and expand your mind and stop thinking inside the Honda circle. Yes they are good cars but definitely not the best. Quit the American bashing and grow up
Agreed. The number of immature morons on this site is staggering.
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Originally Posted by _Viper_
No instead he opens it full blast giving me some cold fvucking November rain Guns & Roses Style
LMFAO
Originally Posted by 04hemiboy
You wasted 5 sec of your life on timing a sunroof? LOL
You could of took 10 pics for us..LOL
LMFAO HAHAHAHAH *TEAR* HAHAHAHA
Originally Posted by orion_squall
Hey,

It is designed to make a girl passenger with white t-shirt all wet. I'd say it is smart!
WELL SAID.. **** I"D BUY IT JUST FOR THAT REASON!!! LOL HAHAHAHA ( im kidding but it would still be cool )
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Originally Posted by fiatdale
All of you really need to get out more and expand your mind and stop thinking inside the Honda circle. Yes they are good cars but definitely not the best. Quit the American bashing and grow up
Opinion on the para-sun roof has nothing to do with thinking inside of Honda circle and it has nothing to do with bashing and growing.

GM G6 with para-roof does not represent every american car, the thread starter did get water on him and did dislike that specific design on the current G6.

Maybe you should stop thinking that memebers of this site only think inside of Honda circle.

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Seems to me more of a problem with the sales man than with GM.
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