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Hey, this topic has been bugging me for a while--I have a friend who says that if the clutch is fully disengaged while the engine is idling, there is no wear on the clutch and clutch components. I was taught to put the car in neutral as opposed to sitting with the clutch disengaged. Can anyone clear this up for me?

 
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it might just be me but you guys are the saying the same thing.
he say - clutch out = neutral = no wear
u say - clutch out = neutral = no wear
i dont know it might just be me though

 
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i think his friend is saying "clutch in + in gear = no wear"

 
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noob question: what the hell does it mean to ride the clutch?

 
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it normally means to use the clutch in a way where its not all the way in or out. its how you burn the clutch. however in this case he means something seperate.

 
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i'm beginning to build on a theory that when a car is in neutral w/ clutch NOT depressed and no gear is selected, the clutch is still partly engaged..... anyway.... if the clutch is disengaged, and car is idling, there should be no damage. If your friend is talking about sitting at a traffic light with the clutch down the whole time, I'm not sure if there is damage to the transmission, but the spring that keeps the pedal up will go bad eventually.
also, in your descrition, it doesnt sound like either of you are riding the clutch.

 
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I don't know about you guys, but putting it in neutral at each and every stop sign has saved me a couple of tickets. Otherwise, you're tempted to leave the car in second gear, pop the clutch and roll through the intersection.

 
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I was told that riding the clutch wasn't good for a manual.

Plus I don't like my left leg to resemble a horse's while my left leg looks limp lol.

 
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thats true...... but how about having it in neutral approaching a stop sign, step into clutch, throw it into 2nd and go?

 
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I've got a 2002 Civic Si, and wanted to know if these have the Self Adjusting Clutches, which reduce wear significantly, meaning riding a clutch or depressing it during stop lights are virtually a non-issue now. I heard just about every car made since late 90's with stick trans have Self Adjusting clutches as standard.. can anyone confirm this??

 
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wow, i've never heard of this

 
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no matter what gear you are in, the clutch makes contact (engages) with the flywheel as long as you dont push the pedal down.
with the car in gear and clutch pedal pushed down the clutch does not wear because its not touching the flywheel, however your putting stress on the pressure plate and down the road after doing this alot your pressure plate will prematurely need replacement. also this can cause crankshaft walkout.

car in neutral with clutch down is unescasary so dont do it.

pretty much you only cause clutch wear when you are between full engagement or full dis-engagement

 
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hmmm never heard of this, and i doubt honda would use it. it would mean it makes the clutch back off while your riding the clutch which isnt good because youll eventually not have full contact when you release the clutch. i dont think this makes any sense and there is no reason to make it, or try to make it, i dont see how it would work.

 
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if you hold the clutch in while stopped like at a light or something it will wear out bearings.

 
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Eventually the throw out bearing will go bad.

 
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My brother said not to depress the clutch pedal for too long because it will wear out the clutch cable or something like that.

 
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samethng sodas2k said, the throwout bearing. thats the one that goes against the pressure plate.

to the last guy about clutch cables, nope.

 
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When people talk of "clutch wear," that's usually the strain caused by the engine matching the RPM of transmission through the clutch plate. Holding down the clutch does wear the clutch if done extensively, but for the most part clutch wear is due to bad shifting, dropping the clutch at high RPMs, intense quick shifts.

Second, holding the clutch at a stop light won't kill your throwout bearing. Sure, it does wear it out in the long run, but chances are your clutch plate will wear out, or pressure plate crack long before that happens. Going to neutral at every light/stop sign is overkill.

 
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so you want us to stall at every light/stop sign?

i stand corrected by pon55. btw, riding is NOT spelled w/ an e

 
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i believe i know exactly what hes saying... (sorry if someone clarified this already, didnt read both pages, too lazy), but he means if at a stop light, is it bad for the clutch to just sit there with the pedal down (disengaged), and should you put the stick actually in the neutral positition and only depress the brake pedal. It doesnt matter whatsoever, either way the clutch is completely disengaged and there will be no wear on it. otherwise it would wear every time u pushed the pedal down to shift gears = false.

*disclaimer... i may be wrong, but this is what i was taught in auto class*

 
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When I was learning to drive a manual my dad told me to keep it in neutral at stoplights. The reason in doing this is to keep pressure of the flywheel.
So basically its not bad on the clutch by keeping it depressed but its bad for the flywheel and transmission.

 
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02cvcex thats not true
lxcivic2k1 thats not really true either

7thgeners nowadays are lazy lol, read my previous posts.

 
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I ride the clutch
thats cuz i live in a steep *** hill and its a bitch to park on a hill with stick without bumping into cars therefore I have no choice but to ride/unride the clutch. Also I ride the clutch in heavy traffic. I know its bad but I dont give a crap cause I get can oem clutches for free. Just simply bring to shop and take the clutch out and bring it to auto zone and they replace it for free for lifetime.. This is because I know the people there and they think I work for a shop and work for someones car and they gave me a receipt where if I bring that to them, they will replace the item for free with a brand new one. Only bad thing was thats its oem type so it cannot hold alot of power such as turbo. I paid 100 for the oem clutch and replaced it twice already, I love burning out my clutch, also get high performance brake pads for free as well, as long as it has some ceramic left, I can bring it back and they will give me a new one...

 
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Hi droi lick, thats how! Yes,clutches today are self adjusting!

 
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You are not Rideingthe clutch when you hold it down!

 
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hahahahaha your lucky

after a while you might want to get the flywheel resurfaced, replaced (get a lightweight one )

pon55, i guess we all learn something new everyday, im definately going to read up alot on that.

 
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am i the only one that saw this?