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Old Jul 4, 2005
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Thumbs down SI's quite unimpressive

I know its been talked about several times before, but i must admit i am very unimpressed. For all that extra money you get practically no more power. I was unimpressed by my test drive in one, and tongiht i was racing one, and had little trouble keeping up and passing him with just bolt-ons(i/h/e and spark plugs). For a car that costs so much more, its just not nearly worth the money.
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Sorry you were disappointed, Ashole .....i love my Si
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you mean for the $1000 more than the ex's?
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Originally Posted by Ashhole
I know its been talked about several times before, but i must admit i am very unimpressed. For all that extra money you get practically no more power. I was unimpressed by my test drive in one, and tongiht i was racing one, and had little trouble keeping up and passing him with just bolt-ons(i/h/e and spark plugs). For a car that costs so much more, its just not nearly worth the money.
the most important thing is that in our cars you get a POS Dblock and in Si's the new K block which is capable of soooooo much more, anyways sorry you feel that way...
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yeah teh K block is capable of much more than our D blocks. But the one in the SI is still not the power producer you would expect from an SI. Had they put -A2 head instead of the -A3 head it would definitely be a much better car all around IMO.
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Originally Posted by Ashhole
I was unimpressed by my test drive in one, and tongiht i was racing one, and had little trouble keeping up and passing him with just bolt-ons(i/h/e and spark plugs).
There's no way your vic w/ a D-series engine w/ just bolt-ons can beat or even keep up w/ an Si
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Esp. not w. the 16.6 1/4mi. time you have posted in your sig.

The K isn't just a better block, its more easily modable, slap on a CAI, header and KPro onto the Si and it suddenly get a helluva lot faster.
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y not? u dont know what kinda power my engine is putting out. come to think of it, neither do i. point is, you have no idea what my car can and cant do based on what yours or any elses does.
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The K isn't just a better block, its more easily modable, slap on a CAI, header and KPro onto the Si and it suddenly get a helluva lot faster.
I will agree with you there. There are practically no parts available for our motors. all though the only thing for buliding the block i havent been able to find is a crank shaft. found pistons, rods, and a aftermarket ported head. even found some engine sleeves, although im not entirely sure what the engine sleeves are for. anyone know?
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y not? u dont know what kinda power my engine is putting out. come to think of it, neither do i. point is, you have no idea what my car can and cant do based on what yours or any elses does.
lol. yes we can.

if everyone else who has put on intake and exhaust has gotten maybe 5hp, you aren't going to just magically get 30hp on your car.
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Originally Posted by Ashhole
I will agree with you there. There are practically no parts available for our motors. all though the only thing for buliding the block i havent been able to find is a crank shaft. found pistons, rods, and a aftermarket ported head. even found some engine sleeves, although im not entirely sure what the engine sleeves are for. anyone know?
sleeves increase the strength of the cylinder walls.

and the stock crank on your civic is forged and could likely handle over 500 whp.
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I dont have a problem with the si, yeah its a hunk a junk and i can woop on it all day, but its got a good engine. poor design though.. they should have put it in the EM2 vs the EP3
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Si + i/h/e hondata tuned = much faster car
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lets not forget, some people dont buy a car based on how fast it is. i think the si looks good myself.
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my buddy just bought an si and boy am i jealous................just about **** my pants when he came home the other day in his new 05 white si. Lets just say im a lil envious........... but im still glad he go it, its pretty quick, and really sporty. I like em
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Originally Posted by AzNTiG3R
There's no way your vic w/ a D-series engine w/ just bolt-ons can beat or even keep up w/ an Si

how do you figure. i have messed around with the new si's and i have i/e/h pulleys. and the kid didnt go anywhere. its not hard at all to keep up. i mean i didnt have a problem.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
sleeves increase the strength of the cylinder walls.

and the stock crank on your civic is forged and could likely handle over 500 whp.
The crank is forged? Did not know that. Well that makes things easier. thanks man.
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lets not forget, some people dont buy a car based on how fast it is. i think the si looks good myself.
on the far end, i say they are one of the most hideous hatchback designs ive ever seen. ill take a gremlin, please.
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how do you figure. i have messed around with the new si's and i have i/e/h pulleys. and the kid didnt go anywhere. its not hard at all to keep up. i mean i didnt have a problem.
you raced a crappy driver. race someone who can drive, and the Si will walk away.
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o yeah, i didnt mean that my car is fast or anything. plus i forgot to say that the person prob sucked at driving. But i not a bad driver myself.

Also i raced a 2000 si on my way home from florida on 95 and he didnt go anywhere. i was right next to him. and he had i/e. i raced another one here i nj and i had him by a foot. but still close. i like close raced. this way you dont mid lossing. lol.

no turbo either, i just had intake, header, no cat, no res, 2 1/2 piping, pulleys and cam gear.
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I have a couple of issues with the current Si...

1. Shape (Personal preferance)
2. Weight... its almost as heavy as the RSX-S...
3. Electric assist steering rack (its really wierd feeling when driving neer the cars limits)
4. Did I mention its weight?

any way, its not a bad car... its just not what people expected. But like I said, my biggest problem is with its weight, seriously. They add what 50 HP over the Ex right? and then they add some 200+ LBS... hardly worth the added power. Then again, weight hinders handling alot more then acceleration.



Oh ya.... I havent been beaten by an Si either
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the 99-00 SI was way better than the new SI. I almost wanted one, but then I relieved it's a economy engine, and why get that when I can make my own nasty combo for my EM2.
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Originally Posted by AzNTiG3R
There's no way your vic w/ a D-series engine w/ just bolt-ons can beat or even keep up w/ an Si


Are you kidding me? I eat stock Si's for lunch with my 1.7L with bolt-ons.
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the ep3 si is probably the ugliest hatch i have ever seen, it should be called the Minivan Coupe. and im pretty sure a modded em2 can take an si, unless it is running K-pro and other mods. all in all, i'd much rather have a 7th gen and swap a k20a, but who wouldnt?
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EP3's are no problem...hell even with boltons its still a drivers race. once they get hondata...then they start walking. the extra wieght almost negates the hp increase.
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Yeah I agree with the shape. it's the ugliest thing I have seen honda make in a long time. The si ranks among the ugliest next to the Honda Element. Now that is ugly. I love my 7th gen ex, but also wouldnt mind dropping in a K20a2 or k20a type r
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Originally Posted by exturbo6
o yeah, i didnt mean that my car is fast or anything. plus i forgot to say that the person prob sucked at driving. But i not a bad driver myself.

Also i raced a 2000 si on my way home from florida on 95 and he didnt go anywhere. i was right next to him. and he had i/e. i raced another one here i nj and i had him by a foot. but still close. i like close raced. this way you dont mid lossing. lol.

no turbo either, i just had intake, header, no cat, no res, 2 1/2 piping, pulleys and cam gear.
another case of a very shitty driver.

the previous gen Si's are not only faster, but probably respond to mods even better. i/e can give upwards of 10whp or so on the 6th gen Si. my 6th gen Si gained 9.7hp and 8lb/ft torque from i/e.
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Are you kidding me? I eat stock Si's for lunch with my 1.7L with bolt-ons.
your car is not faster than an Si. period. post a 15.5 timeslip and then we'll talk.
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doesn't 2000 si plus vortech supercharger give 275hp? anyway, stock si has 140whp, your civic ex has maybe 110whp if you're lucky. thats not very close.
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Originally Posted by djmota
EP3's are no problem...hell even with boltons its still a drivers race. once they get hondata...then they start walking. the extra wieght almost negates the hp increase.
show me a stock 7th gen, or 7th gen with i/h/e running a 15.5 and then you have a valid point.

otherwise you're way way off.
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