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Aight fellow members here's the deal..... I got called out to race from another all motor civic. Here's my setup:
Full Tein SS suspension
Energy suspension Bushing kit (front and back)
Neuspeed upper strut bar
Crower stage 3 cam
Crower Titanium spring
Crower Titanium retainers
Crower stainless steel valves
Crower camgear
CP Forged high compression pistons (11.5:1 + .020 overbore)
Crower maxi lite rods
AEM pulley kit
Koyo aluminium racing radiator
B&M short shift kit
ACT Extreme pressure plate
ACT 6 puck copper disc
ACT Prolite flywheel
ARP headstuds

Is it possible to run low 14 to high 13 sec in the quarter mile using slicks???
The race is for $1000. (However it is all motor vs all motor, no turbo or nitrous but anything else is accepted)

 
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what is the other guy's setup?

edit: impossible to tell without a dyno ... we don't know what the crower cams produce ...

you'd probably gain a lot more power if you were tuned ;P

 
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he has a mildly built B18C

I knoww I would gain alot if I tune properly but the only way i see it is with AEM EMS, but that kinda expensive for now.
But otherwise do you this that i can do this??

 
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What are you racing?

 
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Neuspeed upper strut bar get rid of this..Energy suspension Bushing kit (front and back) I would remove the bushings
I would also remove all the seats except one and loose the interior pannels. I would also run higer comp than 11:5:1 Im talking racing fuel. Or literlly just throw racing fuel in, it will actually help.
Than you should have a shot!

 
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an older model hatch civic

 
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I would defently do everything I said than..
Also get rid of the spare tire while your at it if you havent already.
Get some light weight 14 inch rims as well

 
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i dont no what hes got but b18's stock are faster... so take it from there depending on what hes got and in what car... but with what ive seen, i 'm not shure about running low 14... then gees i want to go that root, cuz i love all motor!!! good luck!!!

 
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oh .............

I'd call off the bet.

 
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that works too,
also you can get rid of your cat and run a straight pipe!. I would loose the air conditioning unit! umm lets see what else guys
honestly I would try with the reasonible stuff I listed

 
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if he did a swap in a hathc chances are he probably invested in quiet a bit

 
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Yeah but the thing is that in my country most cars even though they have the B18C's and the SR20's and the RB25's etc they don't work properly and most of the cars have major suspension problems, that's why i think that I have a shot. And then again this will be video taped and posted in local magazines. (I want the publicity)

 
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^ I don't think the guy would bet $1000 if his car wasn't working properly ...

 
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If you make it so the the race isnt a full straight line. Lets say canyon race? do what i said and you really do have a shot. Driver skill will mean alot on a road course vs drag course

 
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Call off the bet unless your gonna do some major weight reduction. Take off the strut bar leave the motor mounts. run slicks try to tune your car you might as well spend 1000 on tuning beat this chump and then get your money back. You better take everything thats not need off. power steering, a/c passenger seats carpets back seat everything in the trunk let us know how it ends up and good luck

 
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hatch would still have the advantage on a road race or canyon, wouldn't it?

 
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^i know those 91 si's do.



b18c1 built > d17a built.

goodluck and do plently of weight reduction. remove every piece of junk in the trunk, even the cardboard, rear seats, passenger seat, panels, etc.

 
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You will never hit low 14's with the mods you have. low 15's MAYBE. especially without tuning and an aftermarket ECU. your ECU is your worst hinderance.

and I hope you're running premium fuel with that compression ratio. if not, you're probably detonating which can be damaging, not to mention you lose power.

and you're going to lose unless the guy is a total tool and can't drive. a B18C swapped hatch will own you pretty bad.

 
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B18 in a lightweight hatch has the advantage. Without a dyno you have no idea what kinda power your making. I wouldn't blow a G like that unless I knew for sure what my car was capable of. Just my opinion.
Later

 
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Get ur car tune and dyno and see how much power ur making first

 
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Good luck, keep us posted up with some results if you do decide to go for it

 
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thats tough. those are light and B18s can get fast.
anyway strip the car, but I cant see the point of betting $1000 on this. too risky.

 
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You might wanna make sure your putting down the number's with your set up. I think 14's are def possible with your set up but have you ran it at the track yet. Def get that thing on a dyno and when you run him you better be driving a shell.

 
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Thanks guys for the support and advice but I think that I am going for it..... And BTW I will be using race fuel and also gut the car as much as possible...

 
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i say ur gonna loose no offense, but higher hp engine in a much lighter car.....it's a given

 
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I had an ek9 project car for a while with the stock d16 in it with mild mods and extreme weight reduction ghetto style, and it romped lots of good cars rolling on 14s. i say dump everything you can, dash, passenger seats, rear seats, deck, everything. hit the trunk to.

what trans do you have? mt/at? what size tires, rims? get some small, light wheels... only if you had a ecu & tune

oh man, good luck out there.

 
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without tuning or some kind of engine management system, race fuel is just going to prevent you from detonating. in other words you might get an extra 5hp.

dude, seriously. don't put money on this. you are gonna get owned hard.

 
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I know and I have a M/T

 
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No way is a mad weight reduction on the 7thgen is gonna be lighter than an old civic hatch, plus there is no way a built D17 will outpower even a stock B18C.

 
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When is the race? I think you're crazy but good luck buddy.