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Old Jun 10, 2005
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i dont mind srt4's. and ill give it to dodge, they produced a decent bang for buck car, however, i know of an SRT4 thats MAD down on power...i'd say its a durability issue because hes got 42000 miles on it and intake/mani/boost controller he lost from stop and high roll to a 'lightly' modded RSX-S (app. 36000 miles). ill be honest and say the guy continuously runs the **** out of the SRT4, however, my buddy does the same to his rsx-s. so you tell me.... honda reliability/durability vs dodge
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I would like to input my opinion in this as I am pretty damn tired of you guys bashing on the SRT-4 when it IS truly a great bang for the buck. Sure it's a Dodge, it's ugly, but for $14-16K car that has all that power and a decent interior, it sure as hell is better than your civic for that same price performance wise and interior wise. Cornering abilities? I'll throw in 400 more and it'll perform better than your civic or at least up to par. Before you start saying I hate civics, no I don't because I use to drive and modify one myself, but traded it in becuz I wanted a manual.

My bro drives a 2004 S2000, and he's a damn good driver, but I have yet to see him take it to the track so I don't know how fast he can huddle in that little car, but it shouldn't even be compared to a 22K car. His is a lot more expensive and it better well perform a hell of a lot better too.

Also, for all of you that say that people drive SRT-4 talks lots of ****, I have yet to see one that does, I know a few that drives them at my college, yet I have seen many and many civic owners talk like their cars are ferraris and a few s2000 owners that think they can hog up the parking lots. I'm not saying there aren't any asses that drive SRT-4s but don't make it seem like everyone that drives hondas are sweet, charming and nice as *** citizens. Just My .02 cents
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I LOVE THAT QUOTE!

And you drive a car thats.. Still a Civic? I fail to see logic, in that quote. A Civic Si is still a Civic afterall?
civic > neon in every way you can think of. so other than the SRT4 that makes it faster than the civic in a straight line (except the civic is still faster than the SRT4 at auto-x. just look at last year's results. the srt4 is struggling).

sooooo when someone says "it's still a neon" and you reply "yeah well you have just a civic" it's not an insult.
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Nope.. Neon got a new platform in 2000. It is also the platform for the PT cruiser, and maybe a few others cars now. It was much more refined, and better done.
lol that's not a new platform. it was just a next generation. like the 6th gen civic to the 7th gen civic. that's not a new platform. new platform would be completely redesigning the entire car, all the way down to and including it's chassis and frame. in other words, a different car completely.
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Originally Posted by jonnyg
I didn't say SRT4s are reliable or not. I just wanted to see where you guys get this info because from what I've seen, they are nice little cars. I can't really bash until I've heard/seen otherwise.
Here lies the problem. Dodge seems to not want to release problem per vehicle rates and reports for just the SRT4. They are hiding something methinks.
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Originally Posted by civicmorph
Sure it's a Dodge, it's ugly, but for $14-16K car that has all that power and a decent interior, it sure as hell is better than your civic for that same price performance wise and interior wise. Cornering abilities? I'll throw in 400 more and it'll perform better than your civic or at least up to par.
They are $20k new.

and if you think for 400 more you're going to outhandle a civic in auto-x you got another thing coming. lol. dodge made 500 of the ACR version again (a LOT MORE than 400 in mods) just to be competitive in auto-x.
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dodge...what are they dodging again?
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Also, for all of you that say that people drive SRT-4 talks lots of ****, I have yet to see one that does
www.srtforums.com I guessing you haven't been there.

The reason everyone hates on the SRT4 is because 99% of the drivers are ****ing idiots. I visit a lot of forums and heres what most look like....

Civic forums - "Dumbass in an SRT4 peeling out next to me at a light'
S2000 forums - "SRT4 owner talking trash at car show, trying to get me to race"
Evo - forums "Idiot in an SRT4 tried to launch on me, he stalled it"
Mustang GT forums - "SRT4 revved at me"
Cobra forums - "Killed an SRT4 today, missed 2nd gear"
Ferrari forums - "I was at work today, and I heard revving. I look out the window and some kid in an SRT4 is revving at my Ferrari, he peeled out and sped off, wierd"

and then goto srtforums.com - "OMFG i killed a civic, S2000, Evo, stang GT, Cobra, and a freaking FERRARI!!! today!!!"

and they will get responses like "Nice kills, you really put them in theyre place" or "You shoulda asked em how your panty hose taillights look?

As you can see the majority of SRT4 owners are flaming idiots. They have next to NO respect for any other cars no matter how fast they are. In many threads they bash on Evos as being overpriced crap and with $x,xxx in mods the SRT4 would out handle and out run an evo.

Awhile ago I wrote up a big list of SRT4 owner excuses..

Outhandled by an Evo?
Typical SRT4 owner - I just need the Mopar stage 2 coil overs, its just as good has AWD

Outrun by a Cobra?
Typical SRT4 owner - Once I get the Mopar stage 2769^5 I'll pull him

Beat off the line by an STi?
Typical SRT4 owner - My tires were cold, gimmie a second and I'll dust him

Someones car faster than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I'm cheaper!

Someones car cheaper than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I'm faster!

Someones car cheaper and faster than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I have a warrenty.....and bucket seats!

Beat by a Honda?
Typical SRT4 owner - Its just a Honda, if I put that amount of money into my car, I'd be in the 10's

In short people bash the SRT4 because of the owners, most realise that it is a decent performing car.
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
www.srtforums.com I guessing you haven't been there.

The reason everyone hates on the SRT4 is because 99% of the drivers are ****ing idiots. I visit a lot of forums and heres what most look like....

Civic forums - "Dumbass in an SRT4 peeling out next to me at a light'
S2000 forums - "SRT4 owner talking trash at car show, trying to get me to race"
Evo - forums "Idiot in an SRT4 tried to launch on me, he stalled it"
Mustang GT forums - "SRT4 revved at me"
Cobra forums - "Killed an SRT4 today, missed 2nd gear"
Ferrari forums - "I was at work today, and I heard revving. I look out the window and some kid in an SRT4 is revving at my Ferrari, he peeled out and sped off, wierd"

and then goto srtforums.com - "OMFG i killed a civic, S2000, Evo, stang GT, Cobra, and a freaking FERRARI!!! today!!!"

and they will get responses like "Nice kills, you really put them in theyre place" or "You shoulda asked em how your panty hose taillights look?

As you can see the majority of SRT4 owners are flaming idiots. They have next to NO respect for any other cars no matter how fast they are. In many threads they bash on Evos as being overpriced crap and with $x,xxx in mods the SRT4 would out handle and out run an evo.

Awhile ago I wrote up a big list of SRT4 owner excuses..

Outhandled by an Evo?
Typical SRT4 owner - I just need the Mopar stage 2 coil overs, its just as good has AWD

Outrun by a Cobra?
Typical SRT4 owner - Once I get the Mopar stage 2769^5 I'll pull him

Beat off the line by an STi?
Typical SRT4 owner - My tires were cold, gimmie a second and I'll dust him

Someones car faster than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I'm cheaper!

Someones car cheaper than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I'm faster!

Someones car cheaper and faster than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I have a warrenty.....and bucket seats!

Beat by a Honda?
Typical SRT4 owner - Its just a Honda, if I put that amount of money into my car, I'd be in the 10's

In short people bash the SRT4 because of the owners, most realise that it is a decent performing car.



Owned by S2kman and got boost whooooo
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got boost. nice.. rofl
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I know the SRT-4 is 22K new, I was saying that the 2004 model you can get for 13-16K as someone has posted, and for that price I'd choose the SRT-4 over a newer year honda civic anyday dodge or not. You stated SRT-4 owners talking **** on forums, I'm talking about seeing the people talk **** in person, I don't base my facts on forums.

Also you all say the SRT-4 can't corner worth a muthaload...from what you guys sound like, you're saying if I took the car on a highway U-turn it'll roll over and crash, as shitty as the SRT-4 is in handling, it does real life cornering and handling normal roads just fine. Not everyone takes their car autocrossing. For their reliability bashing, I also haven't seen a SRT-4 dead on the road. I could state more of my points and rebuttals against ur claims and opinions, but i think you all know where I stand in this situation already. I don't feel like typing out another two paragraphs over this debate, flame me all you want, I know Honda owners will stand by their hondas, Dodge owners will stand by theirs and so forth, I'm here to give my .02 cents as you all know me by now that I only speak from what I've driven and owned, so take this post lightly.

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well everyone likes the car they own. Nobody on the srt forums is gonna say their car sucks just like noone here says civics are bad.
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personally im not a fan of a stock Civic. But then again, id never leave a civic stock. Cept the 7th gen interior is very nice. Stock they have bad body roll, shitty tires, gutless engines, and less than adequate brakes. cept for the Si's with 4 wheel disc's and old CRX Si's. ( CRX Si= best car ive ever owned stock for the price) BUT civic's can do really well with a few cheap mods, wider tires. better brake pads, losing a few pounds, coil's, and on any other gen than 7th, engine swaps are cheap and easy to install. This is why i love the civic, because it's very versitile. I just wish honda would actually make a car thats got it all, 98-00 Si was very nice, but needed a B18c, not a b16a, GSR was very nice but to heavy. and the 7th gen Si needs a real K20. If honda would start upping the power i think they would have A LOT more young buyers out their. Even if it was a limited production car i think it would sell very well even if its a few thousand more. its about time honda made a 14 second stock civic.
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Originally Posted by bamb00
dodge...what are they dodging again?
Crap you guys throw out your window at us.


Originally Posted by Tony4380
i dont mind srt4's. and ill give it to dodge, they produced a decent bang for buck car, however, i know of an SRT4 thats MAD down on power...i'd say its a durability issue because hes got 42000 miles on it and intake/mani/boost controller he lost from stop and high roll to a 'lightly' modded RSX-S (app. 36000 miles). ill be honest and say the guy continuously runs the **** out of the SRT4, however, my buddy does the same to his rsx-s. so you tell me.... honda reliability/durability vs dodge
Huh? Sounds like he didn't know how to drive or had the boost turned down. 42000 miles and it hasn't blown up? Sounds like reliability is better than you guys say.
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All SRT-4 related posts should not be allowed on this site. As soon as they are mentioned, a flamewar begins.
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Originally Posted by AJ Quick
Crap you guys throw out your window at us.




Huh? Sounds like he didn't know how to drive or had the boost turned down. 42000 miles and it hasn't blown up? Sounds like reliability is better than you guys say.

hey, I just noticed your pic underneath, on the right side. A neon with 2 white line...like a viper

Is it your neon?
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Originally Posted by orion_squall
hey, I just noticed your pic underneath, on the right side. A neon with 2 white line...like a viper

Is it your neon?
No I just thought it looked so cool, I had to have it as a signature. Its a Neon (R/T) with the factory stripes.


Originally Posted by Got Boost???
www.srtforums.com I guessing you haven't been there.

The reason everyone hates on the SRT4 is because 99% of the drivers are ****ing idiots. I visit a lot of forums and heres what most look like....

Civic forums - "Dumbass in an SRT4 peeling out next to me at a light'
S2000 forums - "SRT4 owner talking trash at car show, trying to get me to race"
Evo - forums "Idiot in an SRT4 tried to launch on me, he stalled it"
Mustang GT forums - "SRT4 revved at me"
Cobra forums - "Killed an SRT4 today, missed 2nd gear"
Ferrari forums - "I was at work today, and I heard revving. I look out the window and some kid in an SRT4 is revving at my Ferrari, he peeled out and sped off, wierd"

and then goto srtforums.com - "OMFG i killed a civic, S2000, Evo, stang GT, Cobra, and a freaking FERRARI!!! today!!!"

and they will get responses like "Nice kills, you really put them in theyre place" or "You shoulda asked em how your panty hose taillights look?

As you can see the majority of SRT4 owners are flaming idiots. They have next to NO respect for any other cars no matter how fast they are. In many threads they bash on Evos as being overpriced crap and with $x,xxx in mods the SRT4 would out handle and out run an evo.

Awhile ago I wrote up a big list of SRT4 owner excuses..

Outhandled by an Evo?
Typical SRT4 owner - I just need the Mopar stage 2 coil overs, its just as good has AWD

Outrun by a Cobra?
Typical SRT4 owner - Once I get the Mopar stage 2769^5 I'll pull him

Beat off the line by an STi?
Typical SRT4 owner - My tires were cold, gimmie a second and I'll dust him

Someones car faster than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I'm cheaper!

Someones car cheaper than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I'm faster!

Someones car cheaper and faster than yours?
Typical SRT4 owner - Well I have a warrenty.....and bucket seats!

Beat by a Honda?
Typical SRT4 owner - Its just a Honda, if I put that amount of money into my car, I'd be in the 10's

In short people bash the SRT4 because of the owners, most realise that it is a decent performing car.
I just went over to SRTForums, and did a search for kill stories.. and honestly I didn't see very many examples like you posted. Infact the majority of race strories over there were posted by trolls that don't drive SRT powered cars.. that were meant for a laugh not to be taken seriously.

But I understand those excuses.. all car owners have them.. even.. guess what! 7th Gen Civic owners (and SRT-4 owners).
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They are fast but they are still ugly and junk. Period.
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No I just thought it looked so cool, I had to have it as a signature. Its a Neon (R/T) with the factory stripes.




I just went over to SRTForums, and did a search for kill stories.. and honestly I didn't see very many examples like you posted. Infact the majority of race strories over there were posted by trolls that don't drive SRT powered cars.. that were meant for a laugh not to be taken seriously.

But I understand those excuses.. all car owners have them.. even.. guess what! 7th Gen Civic owners (and SRT-4 owners).
you must have missed many of the posts then. including the guy who said he beat a GSXR 600 bike with 3 people in his car, and he was stock.

Maybe you missed these gems.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149955
"it's nice to know that it takes a V8 a 200 shot of nitrous to beat my SRT4"

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141014
a VR4 will bury an SRT4 unless a tool is driving it. and this guy said his srt4 was 100% stock

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149660
stage 1 SRT4 pulls and stays even with a C5 vette from 30-110mph. Then he says he barely pulls a 350Z.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150085
haha, regular neon RT beats GSR, GTi

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149552
they even rice-race themselves. lol. guy claims he beats a stage 2 with his stage 0 SRT4.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149231
SRT4's and M3's.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147816
guy claims he pulled on an LS1. even though everyone tells him it was LT1, he insists they are wrong. lol

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148291
SRT4 and C6 corvette. haha

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148629
SRT4 stock vs 240sx with R33 engine in it. (this setup runs low 13's with that swap alone)

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148322
GTO and SRT4. (GTO is a mid/low 13 second car)


Need I go on?
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I just went over to SRTForums, and did a search for kill stories.. and honestly I didn't see very many examples like you posted. Infact the majority of race strories over there were posted by trolls that don't drive SRT powered cars.. that were meant for a laugh not to be taken seriously.



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i read some of the links s2000man posted, man are they morons. cocky ***** as well.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
Need I go on?
Yes.. I love to laugh!


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HAHAHAHAHAHA....S2000MAN TOLD YOUR ***...

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!111!!!!11
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lol i wasn't trying to be an ***. but you gotta admit. they have far more far fetched tales than most forums on the net. every forum gets them, they just get a lot more.
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Old Jun 13, 2005
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But I understand those excuses.. all car owners have them.. even.. guess what! 7th Gen Civic owners (and SRT-4 owners).
One thing you won't find on this site are people comming up with excuses as to why they lost to 2003 Cobras, Evo's and Corvettes.

Most people, when they get their *** completely handed to them, have the ***** to swallow their pride and admit that the faster car won. this is not case with most SRT4 owners. The average SRT4 owner no matter how bad he got beat will goto srtforums.com and talk **** about whatever car beat them

I have seen videos posted on srtforums.com where a swapped and turbo'd civic hatch complelty destroys an SRT4, and instead of people complimenting the civic, all you hear is how much Hondas suck. Or how the SRT4 must have been stock, or he wasn't full throttle, or he wasn't racing, or he was a bad driver. But not one good thing said about the civic. This is shear ignorance and this is my many people do not like the SRT4 in general.

Additionally alot of SRT4 owners think they are the kings of the sport compact world, but negelect to mention that alot of the problems they still suffer, have been solved by the import guys a long time ago. Stock, they may be the most powerful, but they are still wet behind the ears. Ive seen Hondas get 800+ whp, the last SRT4 that got close to 600whp **** oil all over itself. Their eagerness to claim dominance to the sport compact world was their #1 ****-up
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Old Jun 14, 2005
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
One thing you won't find on this site are people comming up with excuses as to why they lost to 2003 Cobras, Evo's and Corvettes.

Most people, when they get their *** completely handed to them, have the ***** to swallow their pride and admit that the faster car won. this is not case with most SRT4 owners. The average SRT4 owner no matter how bad he got beat will goto srtforums.com and talk **** about whatever car beat them

I have seen videos posted on srtforums.com where a swapped and turbo'd civic hatch complelty destroys an SRT4, and instead of people complimenting the civic, all you hear is how much Hondas suck. Or how the SRT4 must have been stock, or he wasn't full throttle, or he wasn't racing, or he was a bad driver. But not one good thing said about the civic. This is shear ignorance and this is my many people do not like the SRT4 in general.

Additionally alot of SRT4 owners think they are the kings of the sport compact world, but negelect to mention that alot of the problems they still suffer, have been solved by the import guys a long time ago. Stock, they may be the most powerful, but they are still wet behind the ears. Ive seen Hondas get 800+ whp, the last SRT4 that got close to 600whp **** oil all over itself. Their eagerness to claim dominance to the sport compact world was their #1 ****-up

thank you!..
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Old Jun 15, 2005
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