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I've had first hand experience with powershifting and quick shifting (and tranny failure). Even if you use the clutch and shift quickly, you can still F*** your tranny up in short order. Inside the transmission housing is the shifter assembly (forks, etc.) and you can break a bolt that holds the shifter in place which will cause your transmission to die a horrible death. Believe me, it has already happened to my vic once.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
Hello!? I am not talking about shifting gears without pressing the cluth, I am talking about pressing the clutch and shifting gears with force.
That can't be good. Your forcing the clutch to slip since its the revs haven't dropped enough for the higher gear. Rev-matching should be a good thing, so if you don't shift smooth your car will not be balanced and controlled not to mention that you wont get the most out of your gearbox since your slipping the clutch all the time. Lets say you didn't loose balance on any turn on a race I still don't see your transmission lasting to many road races.
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Originally Posted by jemdogs
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however... one time when i was on a lot of nyquil and a lot of coffee, i found out by mistake that you can shift really fast and really smooth if you combine the "clutch in" and "shifter to neutral" motions, and then combine the "shifter to gear X" and "clutch out" motions. this takes your shift from 4 steps down to 2. ive never had grinding issues. the only problems this might cause is increased stress on one's synchros.l
however... one time when i was on a lot of nyquil and a lot of coffee, i found out by mistake that you can shift really fast and really smooth if you combine the "clutch in" and "shifter to neutral" motions, and then combine the "shifter to gear X" and "clutch out" motions. this takes your shift from 4 steps down to 2. ive never had grinding issues. the only problems this might cause is increased stress on one's synchros.l
If you understand how a transmission works, you'll quickly realize that you dont need to use the clutch to get the car out of gear... you simply have to lift. (you'll also realize that you dont need to use much clutch to shift either...)
A fairly common racing technique (Road racing not drag) is that you use that Lift, to pop the car out of gear, then you quickly stab the clutch and put it in to the next gear. Ratherh then the Slower, Clutch in, out of gear, in to next Cluth out...
Remember, Real race car drivers dont abuse their transmissions.... Because you have to finish a race in order to win.
Another fairly easy thing to do is to shift with out the clutch entirly... and not by power shifting. its simple realy (assuming you understand transmissions)... 1. Lift off the gas, at that moment there is the least amount of preasure on the collar, put the car in to nutural (it should just slide out). Gently apply preasure on the next gear (Dont shove it in). as the engine RPM's drop, there will be a moment when the engine RPMs equal the transmission RPMs of the next gear... at that moment the gear will just slip in.
Up shifting clutchless is quite easy... Down shifting clutchless is an art.
Note: this is a good thing to know how to do, but it isnt something that you should do all the time, as it causes a bit of extra wear on the syncros.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Another fairly easy thing to do is to shift with out the clutch entirly... and not by power shifting. its simple realy (assuming you understand transmissions)... 1. Lift off the gas, at that moment there is the least amount of preasure on the collar, put the car in to nutural (it should just slide out). Gently apply preasure on the next gear (Dont shove it in). as the engine RPM's drop, there will be a moment when the engine RPMs equal the transmission RPMs of the next gear... at that moment the gear will just slip in.
Up shifting clutchless is quite easy... Down shifting clutchless is an art.
Up shifting clutchless is quite easy... Down shifting clutchless is an art.
You just took it to the next level.
i shift up without using my clutch.. only when im lazy.. its really fun doin it.. grinded once or twice... but mastered it after that
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Originally Posted by diggaflip
i shift up without using my clutch.. only when im lazy.. its really fun doin it.. grinded once or twice... but mastered it after that
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Originally Posted by nickm748
haha powershifting...............even if you power shift u probly arent gunna be fast
civic without swap or turbo = slow
civic without swap or turbo = slow
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yes exactly!!! so trade ur 7th gen in like i did!!! an get a WRX!!!
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
If you understand how a transmission works, you'll quickly realize that you dont need to use the clutch to get the car out of gear... you simply have to lift.
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Until my clutch started slipping
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Originally Posted by SevenCyrus
Yea what does a slipping clutch mean? WHen i saw the video of iceburg it has his 1/4 time and (slipping CLutch). What does that mean? Im learning to so much!! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by SevenCyrus
ahhh i see i see. Makes sence. What does double cluthing do and what is it mean?? thanks.
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yeah i just clutch on, shift, clutch off. its that simple. yeah my buddy had a bmw m3 and he tried "powershifting" to show me how fast this car really was by not putting on the clutch and just trying to force it into second really fast and the wooden shift *** broke and flew off and he punched his brother in the back seat really hard because the *** just flew off in his hand. it was bloody and messy. broke his brothers nose and his 100$ shift *** trying to "powershift". it was really bad
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Originally Posted by SevenCyrus
what is the purpose of that? i dont get it, why would someone do that in a race?
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Rep Power: 399 our cars have synchromesh gearboxes, so double clutching is unnecessary, and actually puts more wear/tear on your transmission/clutch.
before we get into another double clutching thread, read this here:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=51
the short of it is this. our cars have synchros for a reason. if you double clutch, you're doing twice the work, and no benefit because of the magic of the synchromesh. so dont do it. ever.
before we get into another double clutching thread, read this here:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=51
the short of it is this. our cars have synchros for a reason. if you double clutch, you're doing twice the work, and no benefit because of the magic of the synchromesh. so dont do it. ever.
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Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
idiot ricers think that double clutching is when youre in gear just quickly tapping the clutch so the revs go up a little and when they drop the clutch it will give them a little jolt, you understand?
anyways, read my post above. nuff said.
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Originally Posted by SevenCyrus
BOOOOO! How about swap...turbo....tuning. Beat wrx. : )
27,500 FWD CIVIC ya... seems worth it to me...
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I thought power shifiting was shifting fast and hard without letting go of the gas. I dont see y ne1 would shift with out pressing the clutch I mean The clutch is pretty important to shifting dont you think? and according to my definition of power shifting I dont see nething wrong with it.except for a few jerks when it grabs.
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Originally Posted by Ohsosikcivic
ya but your still not AWD and uve spent more then a WRX is worth... swap... 5500 turbo kit... figure around 4000 and tuning... 1000 thats $10,500 plus the cost of a civic... 2005 civic... 17k??
27,500 FWD CIVIC ya... seems worth it to me...
27,500 FWD CIVIC ya... seems worth it to me...
Yea you have a point, but i got a DX for that reason, bc a EX with vtec is not worth it. I got for 12K. And with wrx, if you want some more serious power you would have to get aftermarket turbo. IDK whatever floats your boat. In my case, a civic that goes that fast is worth the time and money to have.
