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Old Nov 24, 2004
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Thats not bad for stock my civic with walk that. lolz joking
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now thats impressive! I like the rims, what are they?
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To answe a few questions, the wheels are made by Linea Sport.

Also, I did sell the Evo, for my new tC. The new tC has a factory supercharger as an option but still hasn't been released. They made too much power so they're modifying it to be a lil slower/safer. For the sponsor thing... You need to go to a lot of shows. A lot of companies don't always go by the car. They go by how much advertisement they will get. Get a fly car, go to a lot of shows, take pics then apply where you wish!
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thats a lot of ponies, but i should hope to see numbers like that at 28psi...
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster
Wow that's amazing...too bad it's FWD...torque steer is gonna be a bitch.
I have read about torgue dampers, do they really cure torque steer and wheel hop and how reliable do they work with your car?
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Urethane motor mounts, an LSD and a heavy duty strut bar will help.

Just one tire making slightly less traction than the other on a high hp/acceleration pull will creat torque steer).
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man that's a sic car. that was a quick turnaround for your evo.
Any idea if these sell in canada or will be anytime soon? i swear i could have bought that car for cheaper then my civic.

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As far as I know it's USA only at the moment. Who knows what will develop in the future. You could always head to Maine to buy one? Just a thought haha
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Is there a Tc forum out there as nice as this one?
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how much are tC's and whtas their stock hp? Lets see some pics of yoru car.. i dont care if its stock :-D
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starting price is like 16500, and 161hp 161 ft-lbs? they weigh like 3200 lbs though, but i think they run like a mid 15 quarter mile.
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thanks ^^
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man if they had these in canada i think i'd be looking to trade my civic for one.
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Weird, it has two hp peaks.

Why is it so heavy stock?
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They don't make a sedan, do they?
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Originally Posted by MadWheel
Urethane motor mounts, an LSD and a heavy duty strut bar will help.

Just one tire making slightly less traction than the other on a high hp/acceleration pull will creat torque steer).
tell that to srt4 owners, stock they do 230whp and 250trq. Anyways, the tC only comes in coupe. They run high 15's - low 16's and mid to high 7's. There heavy vehicles, one reason is the cool but double moon roof thing. With an average guy weight owner, that thing tips 3000lbs easy

Cant really do much with 160hp/163trq and 3000+ car.
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Will the supercharged one be mod ready? It's supposed to be 200hp and 200tq from the factory. Will it be easy to bump that up a bit?
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I would like to know what they use for fuel control, and for the ECU....since the car is so new.
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Ok to answer some more for you...

The car weighs 2970. It has a steel frame for safety. The whole engine layout is aluminum which helps to save weight.

There is no sedan yet, but a fourth Scion, the dL is rumored to be a sedan.

Supercharger... Not out yet. They delayed the release once again. They made too much power, more than they wanted. At 6psi the car was making around 225whp. They're trying to tone it down a little to make sure they're comfortable keeping the 7yr warranty they plan on offering with the S/C. The S/C they're using is made by Vortec. You can add an FMIC and BOV to it as well, it's just like a belt driven turbo. Spools just under 3k rpms.

For electronics, the car has it's ECU swapped out for a Motec stand alone. Worked very well, and the fuel curve is perfectly straight! A couple companies got the rev limiter bumped up quite a bit, but those were making around 400hp with only 400lbs of torque.
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Originally Posted by MadWheel
Ok to answer some more for you...

The car weighs 2970. It has a steel frame for safety. The whole engine layout is aluminum which helps to save weight.

There is no sedan yet, but a fourth Scion, the dL is rumored to be a sedan.

Supercharger... Not out yet. They delayed the release once again. They made too much power, more than they wanted. At 6psi the car was making around 225whp. They're trying to tone it down a little to make sure they're comfortable keeping the 7yr warranty they plan on offering with the S/C. The S/C they're using is made by Vortec. You can add an FMIC and BOV to it as well, it's just like a belt driven turbo. Spools just under 3k rpms.

For electronics, the car has it's ECU swapped out for a Motec stand alone. Worked very well, and the fuel curve is perfectly straight! A couple companies got the rev limiter bumped up quite a bit, but those were making around 400hp with only 400lbs of torque.

Motec? I'm guessing thats only for that show car that you posted the dyno for. TRD most likely will have an ECU upgrade included with the SC....

Wonder if everything is working with the motec ecu? You can't use those in the newer honda's if you want to keep functionality of everything due to honda's multiplex bus system.....Honda really is dumb for not sharing this information as to how it works with anyone, the tuner market is hurting big time for options (hondata is the only company that has figured anything out, which is a shame because they can dictate price than). Oh well - maybe its time to dump the vic and get something else....
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those are some crazy numbers. More and more appetizing.
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How much will the supercharged on cost? Insurance will be a lot more on that one.

Does adding a BOV increase power any or just make it sound cool?
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So far rumors have the supercharger in the upwards of 3k. Also, for 40hp... 3k is def not worth it. Yes, your insurance will go up *if you let them know you have the SC. If you don't tell them and you get an accident and the supercharger is damaged, they're not gonna pay for it. A recircuilting BOV gives a bit more HP, nothing dramatic... less than what a intake could give you, but it does. a reg BOV, is only good for sound.
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yeah arith, but dont forget that with the supercharger theyll probably upgrade the internals for added reliability, so thus u can most likely crank up the boost without having much to worry about as opposed to the stock one whered ud have to get new internals. plus 3k for a supercharger setup which is definetly not being used to anywhere near its max is pretty cheap.
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Made more power than expected? Paying for only 40hp? When you combine those 2 things, you have a great big giant hole for an aftermarket company to make a supercharger upgrade and knock up the boost a few more PSI easy, swap out some pulleys and you're in business.
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im just wondering if you have the rest of that dyno im interested in what that car made powerwise under 4k rpm
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i dont know, is it just me or is anyone else not really all that impressed? i mean its 28psi on a 2.4L engine. the b18a1 could make like 700hp at that boost and i mean its got more then a half a liter less displacement.
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B18 is a highly developed motor. How many K series do you see making 700hp at 28psi? K-series is a great motor, but things are slowly improving with the new techology.

The tC will not have upgraded internals with the installed S/C. The stage 1 (to be released first of course) will conist of a low psi pulley, and the blower itself. Word of stage 2 and 3 down the road is expected to make 270hp with upgraded pistons and ecu.

Also, the supercharger is going to cost $2699. For 2699 and a full 7yr warranty for a 40hp increase it's not too bad. Keep in mind, you can roll this upgrade into your financing and pay next to nothing for the mod. With fuel, clutch, intercooler, you can easily expect a daily driven, low 14sec car with a 7yr engine and tranny warranty. For a total cost of less than 20k with the car and all, that's not too bad.
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