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my friend has a neon and its nice..has beat the hell out of it so far and takes it.. pretty damn quick 2 for stock.. ran a 14.2. he lowered and had no problem with the camber.. puts down like 235 whp and 240wtq.. a rsx is nicer but they are more exspensive..i would take a rsx over a NEON, but hell its easier when a motor is built for boost!!!! and comes from the factory turboed.. they have several stages from the factory that u can get to make the neon over 300 some whp..i think its dependable. just depends how well u take care of it. the one thing is that the throttle body leaks oil i believe.. he took it in and they said they didn't have a fix for it whick is kind of shitty but hey.. i would choose a rex over these 2!
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Rep Power: 304 Well its certainly a tough decision since the neon srt-4 isn't a bad looking car and its so darn fast in a straight line and its cheaper.
BUT
and its a big but.
RSX Type S certainly has better fit and finish and a superior refined drivetrain. The chassis is ultra stiff on that bad boy.
The decision lies in your hands you want the glory of the SRT-4 since youll probably burn anyone in a straight line or do you want a true raced inspired car. RSX Type S is a drivers car. More expensive because of its quality and other amenities.
BUT
and its a big but.
RSX Type S certainly has better fit and finish and a superior refined drivetrain. The chassis is ultra stiff on that bad boy.
The decision lies in your hands you want the glory of the SRT-4 since youll probably burn anyone in a straight line or do you want a true raced inspired car. RSX Type S is a drivers car. More expensive because of its quality and other amenities.
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Rep Power: 0 i had the opportunity to test the srt-4 on sunday, at first i thought the outside was ugly but after inspecting it up close it was ok, but the car is very fast in a str8 line.........BUT the interior is way Cheap the seats are #1 it would be better with cheap APC crappy seats. and the interior makes civic look kinda like a cheap Caddy. but still a fast car nonetheless.
my friend has rsx way nicer interior and fast too
do what others said and look at both and consider what you like
my friend has rsx way nicer interior and fast too
do what others said and look at both and consider what you like
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well, its quite simple really...
If you like to go fast in straight lines, get the SRT-4. Because after all thats what it was built to do.
If you like to go fast and take turns.... get the RSX.
If you like to go fast in straight lines, get the SRT-4. Because after all thats what it was built to do.
If you like to go fast and take turns.... get the RSX.
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Rep Power: 318 If you want to listen to honda guys on this forum. Hell, these are people that would take a 90k NSX which sucks at performance over a better looking 90k viper srt-10...
viper srt-10 owns nsx in every shape way and form....
my point here is if you want performance get the dodge srt-4
if you want an overpriced slow POS with crappy tires and only 2 doors vs 4.....than get yourself a rsx-type s
I vote neon srt-4 they are amazing cars that people on this forum will never admitt they are, why? because they would take an M3 over a viper GTS
viper srt-10 owns nsx in every shape way and form....
my point here is if you want performance get the dodge srt-4
if you want an overpriced slow POS with crappy tires and only 2 doors vs 4.....than get yourself a rsx-type s
I vote neon srt-4 they are amazing cars that people on this forum will never admitt they are, why? because they would take an M3 over a viper GTS
My vote goes to the RSX Type S... but I say go test drive both cars anyway.
Actually the 05 Type S dyno'd at 179 whp. And I thought the SRT-4 has 220hp?
Originally Posted by Mischieflts
the rsx-s has 210hp (maybe 200-205 to the wheels)
the srt4 has 230hp (maybe 215 to the wheels)
the srt4 has 230hp (maybe 215 to the wheels)
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Originally Posted by Azure
My vote goes to the RSX Type S... but I say go test drive both cars anyway.
Actually the 05 Type S dyno'd at 179 whp. And I thought the SRT-4 has 220hp?
Actually the 05 Type S dyno'd at 179 whp. And I thought the SRT-4 has 220hp?
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http://www.srtforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25
http://forums.clubrsx.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55
which ever u think is less problematic
http://forums.clubrsx.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55
which ever u think is less problematic
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Rep Power: 0 imo the rsx looks much better. i've never driven a srt, but i have driven a normal neon (1st gen), it drove like a big golf cart. so i can't really say how the srt drives, but i have driven a rsx...very nice...but get whatever one you like best. personally i hate american cars cause all the interiors look cheap, even on the escalade it looks cheap.
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
If you want to listen to honda guys on this forum. Hell, these are people that would take a 90k NSX which sucks at performance over a better looking 90k viper srt-10...
viper srt-10 owns nsx in every shape way and form....
my point here is if you want performance get the dodge srt-4
if you want an overpriced slow POS with crappy tires and only 2 doors vs 4.....than get yourself a rsx-type s
I vote neon srt-4 they are amazing cars that people on this forum will never admitt they are, why? because they would take an M3 over a viper GTS
viper srt-10 owns nsx in every shape way and form....
my point here is if you want performance get the dodge srt-4
if you want an overpriced slow POS with crappy tires and only 2 doors vs 4.....than get yourself a rsx-type s
I vote neon srt-4 they are amazing cars that people on this forum will never admitt they are, why? because they would take an M3 over a viper GTS
and I still havent been beaten by one....
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Rep Power: 304 RSX Type S Drivetrain can be modded for extra horses. Hondadata has some nice ECU upgrades for a type S.
If you want quality RSX Type S (You pay more because its more car)
If you just want to do some rice roketing on local streets get an SRT-4.
Its the same reason I think most true driving enthusiasts would rather have a stock s2000 as oppose to a 400hp 1992 civic hatch with stock suspension and brakes.....
If you want quality RSX Type S (You pay more because its more car)
If you just want to do some rice roketing on local streets get an SRT-4.
Its the same reason I think most true driving enthusiasts would rather have a stock s2000 as oppose to a 400hp 1992 civic hatch with stock suspension and brakes.....
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
If you want to listen to honda guys on this forum. Hell, these are people that would take a 90k NSX which sucks at performance over a better looking 90k viper srt-10...
viper srt-10 owns nsx in every shape way and form....
my point here is if you want performance get the dodge srt-4
if you want an overpriced slow POS with crappy tires and only 2 doors vs 4.....than get yourself a rsx-type s
I vote neon srt-4 they are amazing cars that people on this forum will never admitt they are, why? because they would take an M3 over a viper GTS
viper srt-10 owns nsx in every shape way and form....
my point here is if you want performance get the dodge srt-4
if you want an overpriced slow POS with crappy tires and only 2 doors vs 4.....than get yourself a rsx-type s
I vote neon srt-4 they are amazing cars that people on this forum will never admitt they are, why? because they would take an M3 over a viper GTS
So... SRT-10 owns NSX in every shape way and form??.... humm.. how BAAD INFORMED ARE YOU?!?!?!?!? Once again, that Dodge srt-10 is faster in straight line, but that car doesn't turn!!! It have a HORRIBLE HANDLING COMPARED TO AN NSX, THERES NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT!!! RIGTH? Plus, NSX engine is waaaay more efficient than that SRT-10 engine and the car looks really exotic and not like an ugly muscle car with ultra-low quality workmanship!
The same goes with SRT-4 interiors. They ARE cheapy, and it have less quality than the RSXs interiors!
Whitecastle, remember: is not only about the engine alright?
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Rep Power: 0 i dont know what you are talking about, the srt-4 handles like a dream. when my buddy had his srt-4 and his s2k, we took them both out against each other, and i had no problem keeping up in the turns, and the s2k is a coupe.
the srt-4 definately has stiffer steering. And although its a matter of opinion as far as 'reliability' goes. the thing is damn fast, its all about the whole domestic vs imported thing.
the srt-4 definately has stiffer steering. And although its a matter of opinion as far as 'reliability' goes. the thing is damn fast, its all about the whole domestic vs imported thing.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
and I still havent been beaten by one....
your one of those racer x type drivers..
dont you dare try to say that the NSX is better than an srt-10. Im sorry its not and we dont have an nsx type R in the US.
Nsx is an aged highly overpriced desighn which showing this in sales!!! 2! were sold last year.
also dont start with how nsx owns the turns, you want turns you buy the 100k dodge srt-10 champ car. straight from the factory viper race car.
NSX had its day back in early 90's its gone now. A v6 90k car come on
. when they first came out they were 45k a little higher than a vette at the time and damn near price of a zr1I know corvettes owned nsx since the c5 z06 in all aspects so thats why im using the viper example.
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Rep Power: 331 i still dont understand why the srt-4 only has front door power windows. i agree. the rsxs is more car. but the srt-4 is probably more fun to play with. I honestly think you cant go wrong with either.
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Rep Power: 0 About horrible handling I was talking about the SRT-10 COMPARED to the NSX.
The main complaint I have against Dodge is quality and reliability, it have been proven that their cars are not reliable at all, and it's not a matter of "opinion", low quality and poor reliability have been proven for Dodge cars, not by opinions.
How have been proven??... well... have you heard about "Reliability Reports"??
Consumer Reports stated that the industry average is 17 problems per 100 vehicles. Guess what?...American cars (like Dodge and GM) average is 18 problems per 100 vehicles, wich means they are below average in reliability, VS Japanese and Korean cars have an avg of 12 problems per 100 vehicles, thats really over the avg, and this proves that Japanese are more reliable than American cars like Dodge, not just an opinion!
And its not all about the domestic vs imported thing. I've owned domestics and imports, and the Imports I've owned have been more reliable and better performers (remember, performance is not only about the engine, my imports have been better performers for better braking, better suspension, and.... yes, quicker engines too).
The main complaint I have against Dodge is quality and reliability, it have been proven that their cars are not reliable at all, and it's not a matter of "opinion", low quality and poor reliability have been proven for Dodge cars, not by opinions.
How have been proven??... well... have you heard about "Reliability Reports"??
Consumer Reports stated that the industry average is 17 problems per 100 vehicles. Guess what?...American cars (like Dodge and GM) average is 18 problems per 100 vehicles, wich means they are below average in reliability, VS Japanese and Korean cars have an avg of 12 problems per 100 vehicles, thats really over the avg, and this proves that Japanese are more reliable than American cars like Dodge, not just an opinion!
And its not all about the domestic vs imported thing. I've owned domestics and imports, and the Imports I've owned have been more reliable and better performers (remember, performance is not only about the engine, my imports have been better performers for better braking, better suspension, and.... yes, quicker engines too).
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Originally Posted by BlackFire
About horrible handling I was talking about the SRT-10 COMPARED to the NSX.
The main complaint I have against Dodge is quality and reliability, it have been proven that their cars are not reliable at all, and it's not a matter of "opinion", low quality and poor reliability have been proven for Dodge cars, not by opinions.
How have been proven??... well... have you heard about "Reliability Reports"??
Consumer Reports stated that the industry average is 17 problems per 100 vehicles. Guess what?...American cars (like Dodge and GM) average is 18 problems per 100 vehicles, wich means they are below average in reliability, VS Japanese and Korean cars have an avg of 12 problems per 100 vehicles, thats really over the avg, and this proves that Japanese are more reliable than American cars like Dodge, not just an opinion!
And its not all about the domestic vs imported thing. I've owned domestics and imports, and the Imports I've owned have been more reliable and better performers (remember, performance is not only about the engine, my imports have been better performers for better braking, better suspension, and.... yes, quicker engines too).
The main complaint I have against Dodge is quality and reliability, it have been proven that their cars are not reliable at all, and it's not a matter of "opinion", low quality and poor reliability have been proven for Dodge cars, not by opinions.
How have been proven??... well... have you heard about "Reliability Reports"??
Consumer Reports stated that the industry average is 17 problems per 100 vehicles. Guess what?...American cars (like Dodge and GM) average is 18 problems per 100 vehicles, wich means they are below average in reliability, VS Japanese and Korean cars have an avg of 12 problems per 100 vehicles, thats really over the avg, and this proves that Japanese are more reliable than American cars like Dodge, not just an opinion!
And its not all about the domestic vs imported thing. I've owned domestics and imports, and the Imports I've owned have been more reliable and better performers (remember, performance is not only about the engine, my imports have been better performers for better braking, better suspension, and.... yes, quicker engines too).
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
NSX had its day back in early 90's its gone now. A v6 90k car come on . when they first came out they were 45k a little higher than a vette at the time and damn near price of a zr1
I know corvettes owned nsx since the c5 z06 in all aspects so thats why im using the viper example.
. when they first came out they were 45k a little higher than a vette at the time and damn near price of a zr1I know corvettes owned nsx since the c5 z06 in all aspects so thats why im using the viper example.
Right, I would never spend 90k on an NSX, but neither on a Viper!!
And you are right that the NSX was a great car till the mid 90s, but the car does had great technology when it were introduced to the market, more innovate than many of new american muscles.
And.... well... I can't tell the NSX owns the C5 Z06 cause... the C5 is an amazing car. So.... you won!
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
I agree if I want to keep a car like 5 years+ I would get a toyota or honda. You need to remember only certain companies are good not all imports are good cars...Mitsu is horrible when it comes to reliability and subaru isnt so great either.
I agree with you, mitsubishi have huge quality problems, that's why is the only japanese car manufacturer that is having huge economical problems.
But, their platforms and engines are used on Dodge Stratus, 1st gen Neon and others. Ang guess what?.. the next Gen PT Crusier will use the Lancer Platform! So... Dodge =
That's why Dodge and Mitsubishi have the same reliability problems.
RSX Type-S.. no doubt... SRT-4 cheap interior, looks shitty, will have no re-sale value (I posted an article about that before), N-E-O-N, I could never see wanting to purchase a fwd turbo vehicle - get awd or rwd if you want to go that route
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Originally Posted by BlackFire
Right, I would never spend 90k on an NSX, but neither on a Viper!!
And you are right that the NSX was a great car till the mid 90s, but the car does had great technology when it were introduced to the market, more innovate than many of new american muscles.
And.... well... I can't tell the NSX owns the C5 Z06 cause... the C5 is an amazing car. So.... you won!
And you are right that the NSX was a great car till the mid 90s, but the car does had great technology when it were introduced to the market, more innovate than many of new american muscles.
And.... well... I can't tell the NSX owns the C5 Z06 cause... the C5 is an amazing car. So.... you won!
For 90K i wouldnt get either..... I'd get an Elise and still have enough left over for a custom roll cage, a years worth of race tires, and trailer/tow vieicle..... and I'd still beat the SRT-10 and the NSX, and quite possibly the Z06 on course!!! Its all about priorities!
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Originally Posted by SLeePeRCIVICHopeful
Like civicvtec1ps said, go test drive both. And remember there's a ratings system on this site for a reason (check out lkm and civictuner's ratings). Good luck deciding and post pics when you do! 
