General Automotive Discussion General automotive discussion and chat. Honda, Toyota, Chevrolet, Ford. It doesn't matter, just talk about it here.

Acura moving foward

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #1  
civicdude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 9,308
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, New York, US
Rep Power: 396
civicdude will become famous soon enough
Smile Acura moving foward

I thought this was a good article on Acura, and I thought I would share it.
http://www.forbes.com/columnists/200...0420flint.html
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #2  
CivicsRdBest's Avatar
Nothing works better than a Chris except a Honda.
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,346
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, MD
Rep Power: 346
CivicsRdBest is a glorious beacon of lightCivicsRdBest is a glorious beacon of lightCivicsRdBest is a glorious beacon of lightCivicsRdBest is a glorious beacon of lightCivicsRdBest is a glorious beacon of lightCivicsRdBest is a glorious beacon of light
I think Acura's sales are going to grow higher and higher. Judging by the percentage of sales, I also think they should get a second SUV in there ASAP...
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #3  
Blk4blk2K1's Avatar
Retired Super Mod and STILL Pimpin' Yo Mama
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,267
Likes: 0
From: My Crib, FL
Rep Power: 387
Blk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to beholdBlk4blk2K1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally posted by CivicsRdBest
I think Acura's sales are going to grow higher and higher. Judging by the percentage of sales, I also think they should get a second SUV in there ASAP...
Yeah I agree and they should do pretty well considering a V6 engine. Supposedly the car will be AWD and there may be a V8 model. For a car that is in the same class as the BMW 5 series and the E class, it had better perform.. If it does, I bet there will be big other big things coming from Acura.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #4  
Silver_JS5's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: NH
Rep Power: 0
Silver_JS5 is an unknown quantity at this point
Just think....they're cheaper than lexus, infiniti, bmw, and yet they look just as sick as some of those cars do....it should be an interesting next two years for acura...
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #5  
nivenmk1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
From: Hampton, VA
Rep Power: 0
nivenmk1 is an unknown quantity at this point
I'm all for acura. Honda can do it. Any of you gearheads should go read up on what Honda did to the Euro F1 series it's 1st year in. I, for one, am praying for a repeat in the civilian sector.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #6  
TeLLy's Avatar
Yes, it's an Acura EL
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,248
Likes: 0
From: 416-905, Ontario, Canada
Rep Power: 368
TeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to all
Yay, I drive an Acura Civic, LOL!!!
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #7  
Pharoh's Avatar
Bobaganoosh!
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 26,704
Likes: 0
From: Poco, B.C. Canada
Rep Power: 563
Pharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud ofPharoh has much to be proud of
Originally posted by TeLLy
Yay, I drive an Acura Civic, LOL!!!
haha ^^

Canada rocks! Gunmetal RSX TypeS wheels too
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #8  
Majarvis's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,780
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Majarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trusted
Originally posted by nivenmk1
Any of you gearheads should go read up on what Honda did to the Euro F1 series it's 1st year in.
Huh? What is this "Euro F1" series you speak of? There's Formula One, if that's what you're talking about, but it isn't called "Euro F1." And what did Honda do exactly in F1? I'm a fan of F1, and their first season back in F1 wasn't exactly anything worth bragging about (not compared with their domination of the turbo era in the late 80's).
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #9  
Majarvis's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,780
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Majarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trusted
Originally posted by TeLLy
Yay, I drive an Acura Civic, LOL!!!
Me too, me too!
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #10  
Silver_JS5's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: NH
Rep Power: 0
Silver_JS5 is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally posted by Majarvis
Huh? What is this "Euro F1" series you speak of? There's Formula One, if that's what you're talking about, but it isn't called "Euro F1." And what did Honda do exactly in F1? I'm a fan of F1, and their first season back in F1 wasn't exactly anything worth bragging about (not compared with their domination of the turbo era in the late 80's).
It's the European Formula 1 racing....
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #11  
Majarvis's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,780
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Majarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trustedMajarvis should not be trusted
It's called Formula One, not "European F1." There is only one series of Formula One racing, it isn't like other series, such as F3, where you have German F3, Asian F3, etc...
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #12  
WhiteCastle's Avatar
That is not an ordinary rabbit tis the most foul cruel beast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,579
Likes: 0
From: California
Rep Power: 318
WhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of light
Originally posted by Silver_JS5
Just think....they're cheaper than lexus, infiniti, bmw, and yet they look just as sick as some of those cars do....it should be an interesting next two years for acura...
They will never be able to compete against BMW or Mercedes until they get some "real wood" in thier cars....
Interior in acuras run very cheap to those of the German line. Also they havent a car to date that can come close to performing with them. There desighns are also to conservative.

I predict that sales will sputter than sink like a rock as for Honda itself...its main profit is the accord and civic which its going to loose the civic to Toyotas Scion division. The accord still best car for the buck out there.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #13  
nivenmk1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
From: Hampton, VA
Rep Power: 0
nivenmk1 is an unknown quantity at this point
It's called Formula One, not "European F1." There is only one series of Formula One racing, it isn't like other series, such as F3, where you have German F3, Asian F3, etc...
Pardon me. I'm not used to posting on a "car literate" board. On all of the other 3 or so boards I'm active on, people get F1 and IRL confused. If they've been around a while, they get F1, IRL, CART and Indy confused they're prone to think all open wheel cars are one or the other. I've found refering to F1 as European F1 results in a lot less long explainations.

Their prowess in the first F1 series they competed in came not from the fact that they won, because they didn't, but making a car, running in a pre-established field and actually placing gives them the brownie points IMO. How many other manufacturers do you know who have entered the league in recent years and not been stomped out of any kind of runnings? How many of the more-established teams in F1 get bumped down a notch when honda entered.

If I'm wrong, I'll conceed, no worries there,and I don't keep up with F1 as much as some of you do. If I recall correctly, however, honda did a lot better in it's first series than a lot of the big-wigs predicted they would. They're still no Ferrari, BMW or McLaren, though

I'd likely agree with you on the late 80's, Majarvis, but I wasn't much into racing back then.

The principle is still the same, Honda does great things when they decide to put their minds to it. Once again, pardon me if I've mis-spoke.

I sure as hell hope Honda dosen't sputter and die. You forget that not all of us like woodgrain in our cars and prefer plastic interiors, they're quite easy to care for and well-wearing. The Scion line has potential, I'll give it that, but I don't think it will ever eclipse Honda's lead on the "tuner" market. Especially not if the next-gen civics come with K engines under their bonnets.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #14  
civicdude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 9,308
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, New York, US
Rep Power: 396
civicdude will become famous soon enough
I think Acura should release a smaller SUV that is modeled after the CRV...Just make it more luxerious and more tough. I think that would do well to boost their sales. I think alot of people are into modding SUV's now. The Acura MDX is nice but kind of Pricey....I think they need something to compete with the SCION, ELement, Murano, Xterra, Axiom, Equinox, Escape etc....
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #15  
Silver_JS5's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: NH
Rep Power: 0
Silver_JS5 is an unknown quantity at this point
Just think....they're cheaper than lexus, infiniti, bmw, and yet they look just as sick as some of those cars do....it should be an interesting next two years for acura...
Originally posted by WhiteCastle
They will never be able to compete against BMW or Mercedes until they get some "real wood" in thier cars....
Interior in acuras run very cheap to those of the German line. Also they havent a car to date that can come close to performing with them. There desighns are also to conservative.

I predict that sales will sputter than sink like a rock as for Honda itself...its main profit is the accord and civic which its going to loose the civic to Toyotas Scion division. The accord still best car for the buck out there.
Like i said in the first quote above....as said by me...

"and yet the LOOK just as sick as SOME of those cars do..."

I'm just saying that they look just as sick....i'm not getting into who uses ACTUAL wood in their cars....they're the cheaper version...it's comparing a $30,000 car to a $50,000 car....of course the interior is going to be cheaper, and of course the performance is going to be lower....

and acura designs aren't conservative...they have definitely risen above that point...

they look pretty good to me...
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	tsx_gallpop_img11_ext.jpg
Views:	309
Size:	64.2 KB
ID:	27274  
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #16  
obtix's Avatar
www.AbsouluteDriven.com
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
From: Harrisburg and Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania, US
Rep Power: 0
obtix is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally posted by TeLLy
Yay, I drive an Acura Civic, LOL!!!
Actually, every Acura owner drives a Honda :-P
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #17  
hondaciv01's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 991
Likes: 0
From: Dtown, michigan
Rep Power: 0
hondaciv01 is an unknown quantity at this point
its not like acura can match a 50k bmw with a 30k car. that 20,000 has to be cut back somewhere, and that somewhere is usually the interior. acura now is a good choice for those who can't afford a bmw but still want a stylish luxury sedan
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #18  
TeLLy's Avatar
Yes, it's an Acura EL
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,248
Likes: 0
From: 416-905, Ontario, Canada
Rep Power: 368
TeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to all
The EL especially. Looks SOOOO much like the vic....
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #19  
Silver_JS5's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: NH
Rep Power: 0
Silver_JS5 is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally posted by hondaciv01
its not like acura can match a 50k bmw with a 30k car. that 20,000 has to be cut back somewhere, and that somewhere is usually the interior. acura now is a good choice for those who can't afford a bmw but still want a stylish luxury sedan
Exactly my point....and I don't know why WhiteCastle has to state this, Acura NEVER being able to compete with BMW.....the thing is....they actually are competing against them and they have been successful, just look at that graph of their sales....
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #20  
obtix's Avatar
www.AbsouluteDriven.com
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
From: Harrisburg and Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania, US
Rep Power: 0
obtix is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally posted by hondaciv01
its not like acura can match a 50k bmw with a 30k car. that 20,000 has to be cut back somewhere, and that somewhere is usually the interior. acura now is a good choice for those who can't afford a bmw but still want a stylish luxury sedan
See I think your wrong - so would many car enthusiasted. Acura/Honda is already out performing BMW's and much of thier competition. Plus BMW's interiors have always been bland - do your research before your next post go look at a 300 or even 500 series compared to a TL's interior
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #21  
obtix's Avatar
www.AbsouluteDriven.com
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
From: Harrisburg and Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania, US
Rep Power: 0
obtix is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally posted by TeLLy
The EL especially. Looks SOOOO much like the vic....
Thats because it is a civic... wait, no its not.. its an EL the next of kin for the RL :-P
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #22  
WhiteCastle's Avatar
That is not an ordinary rabbit tis the most foul cruel beast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,579
Likes: 0
From: California
Rep Power: 318
WhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of light
^rofl I am loving this EL acura civic jokes guys
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #23  
TeLLy's Avatar
Yes, it's an Acura EL
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,248
Likes: 0
From: 416-905, Ontario, Canada
Rep Power: 368
TeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to all
Hey, at least I have rear disc brakes.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #24  
invasian's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
Rep Power: 0
invasian is an unknown quantity at this point
thats nice to know
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #25  
VtecDude's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
From: California
Rep Power: 0
VtecDude is an unknown quantity at this point
Agreed.

Acura is definatly trying to make its mark on consumers. The recent years in general have been quite impressive. They are finally starting, IMO, to break away from the "rebadged honda feel". Hopefully they will pull it off. I know I've already got my eye on their discontinued CL 3.2 Type R Coupe. Yum.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #26  
WhiteCastle's Avatar
That is not an ordinary rabbit tis the most foul cruel beast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,579
Likes: 0
From: California
Rep Power: 318
WhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of lightWhiteCastle is a glorious beacon of light
Originally posted by TeLLy
Hey, at least I have rear disc brakes.
Bastard......
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #27  
MrWong's Avatar
Bushido
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,746
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton
Rep Power: 0
MrWong is an unknown quantity at this point
The EL is just a money maker for acura, cheap affordable luxury. Honestly it is just a over priced Civic, with some suspension tuning , rear disc, leather and auto climate controls.

Same engine, same transmission and same wheel size.

Nothing really special.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #28  
TeLLy's Avatar
Yes, it's an Acura EL
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,248
Likes: 0
From: 416-905, Ontario, Canada
Rep Power: 368
TeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to allTeLLy is a name known to all
Overpriced? Hell yes. But I'm glad I bought it over a Civic. Just my opinion.
EL is Acura's top selling model....gets people into the showroom, which is the only reason Acura Canada is keeping it around. Cause us Canadians are ghetto, LOL.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #29  
JDMTUNED01's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Rep Power: 0
JDMTUNED01 is an unknown quantity at this point
I would have the acura interior over the BMW anyday...those nasty *** gauges and dirty amber lighting...who gives a fvck about wood..and over all BMW arnt known for their performance, yes they have some cars that can our perform acura but on a whole, their line isnt really based on that. you want to know why BMW is $20,000 more? because they are German, the same reason audi and VW are so expensive.

Last edited by JDMTUNED01; Apr 21, 2004 at 02:55 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004
  #30  
phatcyclist's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Rep Power: 0
phatcyclist is an unknown quantity at this point
my dad's 2001 330xi has the most bland entierior EVER, I swear my 88 Grand wagoineer's is more appealing. The lights and guages are all single colored. Regardless if they have real wood, they still dont look as nice as the brushed metal accents in the Acuras IMO.

Also, have you ever SEEN what real wood looks like if you only casually take care of it 20 years down the line....It looks like crap.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:05 AM.