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Old Apr 14, 2004
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1 reason why I wouldnt get the tC, Camry motor not race motor.
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Well if you notice it is the camry motor but they have made tweeks to it....the redline of the tc's motor is higher

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16-valve VVT-i
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157 hp [2] @
5,600 rpm [2]
162 lb.-ft. [2] @
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Displacement 2.4 liters
Bore x stroke 88.5mm X 96mm
Compression ratio 9.6:1
Valvetrain Double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve with Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-I)
Induction system Multi-port EFI
Ignition system Electronic with Direct Ignition (TDI)
Horsepower 160 @6,000 rpm
Torque 163 @4,200 rpm
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I do not see anything that indicates that the redline is higher. Just that peak hp and tq is at different RPMS.
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Well very true but i read somewhere that the redline is higher in the tc..i will try to find it
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actually i was wrong....i read where they were comparing the 2.4L to the celica gts, i thought they were comparing the motor from the tc to the camry's...my bad.....read this acticle on the tc and you will see that the tc is just as good a race motor as the gts.....especailly cuz it has more tq

http://www.scionlife.com/tc/
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but if you really think about it a civic motor isnt a race motor either
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The primary competition for this car would probably be the Honda Civic EX coupe. With Honda's latest redesign they sacrificed performance for added comfort and economy. I feel that the tC is close to what the 2001 Civic Si SHOULD have been. Looking at the numbers, the tC gives more power, more room and more style for around the same price. Hmmm... that is a no-brainer. Other competitors will be the Acura RS-X (costs more), Hyundai Tiburon (less features), Toyota Celica (hmmm...), VW GTI (again, either less features or higher price) and Chevy Cavalier (HAHAHA!! yeah right).

Comp for the EX... We'll see.
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yea i think the only reason the civic ex will sell better is b/c the name has been out there alot longer....plus when i tell everyone that im gonna get a scion...their like "a what" ?
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lol I still ike the Tc though, I can't wait to see one on the street, that car is going to be sweat. I was on the Scion website and some guy was running a 17.2 in a Xb with a custom 2'' cat-back with a custom intake. I'm not impressed. But there was also another guy hitting a 16.2 with a TRD clutch with JUN flywheel.
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i fell in love with the tc the second i saw the pics of it from detroit, i cant wait till it comes out, im gonna start trying to sell my ex so i can buy one...and if i cant sell it by then im jsut gonna trade it in. the crazy part is that the tc is gonna have more after market parts than the 7th gen did when it came out
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Originally posted by phatty02civic
i fell in love with the tc the second i saw the pics of it from detroit, i cant wait till it comes out, im gonna start trying to sell my ex so i can buy one...and if i cant sell it by then im jsut gonna trade it in. the crazy part is that the tc is gonna have more after market parts than the 7th gen did when it came out
I would wait till some reviews are released on the Tc. Maybe even some comparrison test with the EX since Scion is claiming to be aiming it's guns at the EX. You never know man. I remember when the Matrix and Pontiac Vibe came out and everyone was all head over heels, and those turned out to be dissapointments for the public.
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Old Apr 14, 2004
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tC 200 hp. 22/?? m.p.g. ic no down side!
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thats w/ super charger!
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i know what u mean Eeeeeeh.....but i also have had a bunch of problems with my ex and i dont wanna deal with the hassle once my warranty is up, cuz i have a toyota pickup and i havent had a problem with it, and its got 202,000 mi on it. so i would much rather have a toyota
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Old Apr 15, 2004
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the m.p.g. is bad on the toyota p/u
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why compare ir to the ex, why not the dx. I paid 13.5 for mine brand new. 110 hp. That's more of a comparisson, but this will never become a street racer thing, more of a beach/pimpin thing to me.
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Moneybags your telling me....it has 40 inch tall tires on it with a 4" suspension and a 3" body lift...thats bad m.p.g....that god it atleast has the v6...couldnt imagine the 4cyl
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no. it only looks good dropped to the ground with 19" chromes.
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Originally posted by phatty02civic
Moneybags your telling me....it has 40 inch tall tires on it with a 4" suspension and a 3" body lift...thats bad m.p.g....that god it atleast has the v6...couldnt imagine the 4cyl
what?
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ya know how i was talking about my toyota p/u with 200,000 miles on it....thats what i was talking about.....cuz u said the m.p.g. is bad on it and with the things i have done to it makes it even worse
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i dont think so
i havent seen under the trunk but im sure its too small for any big mods
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ill just make it to a show car
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Originally posted by Exit109GTI
It's NOT slower than a Civic EX.

The power to weight and torque to weight ratio is better than a Civic EX....

I think it's great because a kid who needs a reliable car can get one that doesn't look like a Hyundai accent for cheap....
Excuse me new member I really don't care, I wasn't directly talking about the XB, but I do believe they are ugly...and some dude tried to race me in one....I burned him too...and my care is an automatic.Don't tell me that "he couldn't drive a stick" crap.

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anyone seen the scion commercial when they have the Xb going around a street in a city and then an Xa comes up rollin around? I like that music....anyone know where I could ahhhh.... "buy" it?
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Old Apr 16, 2004
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you can probablly download the commercial but I dunno about buying it. Yeah that commercial is awesome..
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Originally posted by phatty02civic
ya know how i was talking about my toyota p/u with 200,000 miles on it....thats what i was talking about.....cuz u said the m.p.g. is bad on it and with the things i have done to it makes it even worse
uh..ok you just made my point is that the p/u have bad gas mi. if thats not what you mean
i don't know what the hell your saying
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MONEYAGS....I WAS JUST AGREEING WITH U THAT P/U DO HAVE BAD GAS MILAGE...I WAS JUST SAYING THAT MINE IS EVEN WORSE
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I think the tC is decidely "priuslike" in it's appearance, especially from the back quarter. The rendering is cool, but when was the last time you saw a crappy looking rendering?

I think all the scion's are rather on the hideous side; dumpy-lookin' little cars... The only advantage the tC has is that it's faster; It will leave faster meaning I have to look at it less.
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xA has the same engine as the Toyota Echo... Lol
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Have you seen the new Scion Tc? 160hp with vvtl-i. It does 0-60 in 7.4. And there's also a supercharger for it. Who says scions cannot be tuned?
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