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G35 is ugly compared w/ other skylines, have y'all seen the s16 silvia...that looks nice except for the upper grill. Here's a link to the pic it looks like it may be fotochopped, but it looks nice anyways http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/sh...?threadid=9584

 
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The reason Im so hyped is because I got to see and race against a older R32 skyline on the way to nopi. Ever since that day when I got my *** handed to me Iv'e been hooked.

 
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TT's are portly cars that are narrower, thus sacrificing stabilities on twisties. I never said 225's are all you need, I'm just saying dumping a 285's not going to make the car an ultimate handling machine. There's far more that factors in than just the tire width, and after a certain point you're just robbing the car of it's performance. Not confusing unsprung and contact patch either, because to get really wide rims either they'll be really heavy or really expensive (for forged rims). In racing they drop a pretty dime on rims, you're looking to spend a couple grand each. Frankly that's not worth it from a casual racer's perspective, especially when other modifications would give the car more bang for the buck. I just say this because from your post it sounds as though you're saying tire width's the most important part of the car for handling. I'd go for a suspension upgrade before anything else.

GT-R's are traditionally pretty heavy because of their drivetrain, so it'd probably be in the 3,500 range even with aluminum dodads. While the used cars are darn good deals, they tend to be a bit overpriced new for what you're getting. Evo's cost almost half the amount and have a lot more bang for the buck.

 
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Dont fool your self, man. Handling is 100% about the tire. Think about it, and I'm quoting this from WInning A race driver's handbook "Four small patches of rurbber connect your race car to the road. For example, a 3,000 LB car with 30lb per sq-in (psi) of tire pressure has about 100sq-in of contact patch. Distributed evenly, this is approximately the area fo a 4X6 index card at each tire." thats all thats keeping you from sliding off the road. So it could be said that picking the right tires (width and compound) will do more for handling then any other single part (suspension mods included). the suspensions job performance wise is to maximise the contact patch of the tire, but what ever tire you run can only hold so many Gs before it lets go and that is ultimatly the deciding factor on handling.

in the argument of Unsprung weight Vs tire/wheel width, every racer I talk to says the same thing 1. Run as wide of a wheel and tire as you can safely fit (with out rubbing the uprights and destroying the wheel bearings) [Example] and 2. running a sufficiently wider tire will ofset any unspring weight gains (unless you have a very low HP/Torque car).

as far as spending thousands on Wide light weight wheels, well theres a lot of amature racing in the US and because of that there are alot of custom wheel MFGs that make affordable Light weight wheels like Keizer wheels (Be it their Largest wheel is 15X13 it still only costs $390) or Kodiak race wheels (their largest wheel is a 18 X 15.5 and still only costs $576.50) and Dont forgetCircle racing wheels. So I can confidently say that there are many inexpensive Wide/light weight wheels availible.

 
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Woah this has gone way off topic.

 
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by 2007 ill be 27 and married with prolly a kid....so whats the point?

 
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Not fooling anything, having good stiff suspension's the key, if you don't have good suspension to even plant the tires on the ground you won't be able to make use of all the contact patch. Since I lived in Japan, my knowledge of wheel prices comes from Japan, didn't know bout the cheap forged wheel market in the States. So you proved me wrong on that point.

I think I didn't make my point clear, and you've misunderstood my point. If you note in my original post, i said "puts more unsprung weight and therefore isn't always better." I didn't say "is always worse" for a reason. GT-R's would benefit from wider tires. But I made this point because you said in your original post "I dont really care how much HP it can make," and that you only cared about two things, weight and tire width. But then you say in your latest post that "running a sufficiently wider tire will ofset any unspring weight gains (unless you have a very low HP/Torque car)." So contrary to your original post, HP does matter. I agree that it won't matter for the GT-R, but my contention is that it seemed like you were making a blanket statement that wider is always better for any car in your original post. And with HP-challenged torqueless civics, its a valid concern.

I guess my point then wasn't really on topic about GT-R's then. Sorry bout that.

-Aki

 
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Um... Yes please.

Nissan take note:

Build this for under $40,000 and I WILL buy it. It's Nice and Easy. Keep the weight reasonable and beat whatever the STI and EVO have for horsepower by then and we have a deal.

 
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p.s.

I think I now have new wallpaper for my desktop.