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As I stated earlier, those were drunken posts and didnt mean to come down so hard. Nice ride though. Arent those Fbodys fairly expensive though. 16,000 for a nice used one or what? You can pick up a hatch for 3g's and put 3g's into it and have it smoke anything on the road. But it does come down to personal preference, needs, wants, driver and what your purpose is. I am reading my post and feeling like a dumbshit because I have close friends who drive Fbody's. We smoke them though I LOVE my buddy's 99cobra with sean wyland motorsports supercharger. It put down 530hp to the wheels. My buddy's hatch still beat it though. There is nothing that sounds like it and thats why I like it.

 
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no way in hell you can beat a gt3 on a track with a fwd hatch, and im not talkin about a strip... get a video im callin bs. and yes you can get a porsche to run quicker EASILY with turbo upgrades that dont cost a fortune, specially if u have a porsche like that im sure you can afford it.
ive personally seen a couple nicely modded 996's in this area that run 0-60 in just over 2 secs and can run consistent 10's, not to mention the handling is absolutely nothing short of amazing. not tryin to fight i just dont believe that a hatch is going to be a faster, better race car than somethin on the caliber of a porsche. and im a fanatic if you couldnt tell

 
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Sorry but I have asking all my friends where the porsche vid went and the guy who has it wont be online until tomorrow sometime. But I do have a video of when we first put the turbo kit on his ride and took it for a test drive. He wasnt used to the power and was missing gears but here it is. 16psi untuned.

http://www.boostworthy.com/corey20roll.AVI

 
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As far as fast em2 on this site? DC5@EM2 500whp@24psi k20a turbo, Anotherslo1 k20a2 turbo swap, Catalyst 300whp turbo d17, BoostedHX turbo d17 with a 50 shot, IcebegSlim k20a2 Turbo running 12's, Briang from Hasport EK Hatch k20 turbo. A bunch of other turbo'ed civics in FI section. Nice TA I luv them I just don't think I would be able to pay gas and tickets with that thing cuz I know my pedal would be on the floor the whole time . Forgot welcome to the site!

 
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DOMESTICS FLY,BUT ON A HONDA YOU CAN RELIE..............

 
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Of course but you gotta have the $ to own a porsche and maintain it, at 20psi on a hatch you might have invested 30k on everything still 40k cheaper, modified porsche are damn fast there are some nice ones on flat-6.com just like this one. Theres a vid floating around of a 993 modified destroying a r1 yahama that show you what porsche can do.

Engine Mods:
S Car Go Carbon Fiber Intake Plenums
Custom Built Garrett (Allied Signal) GT Turbochargers (EVO Stage 4GT)
Fabspeed Loud Exhaust
Custom Wastegate Actuators w/ High Pressure Springs
Custom V.2 GIAC Proprietary Stage 4 GT Software w/ IBE ChipSwitch
EVO High Flow Billet Diverter Valves
EVO Sport Equal Length Headers w/ 3 into 1 Pyramid Merge Collectors
Cotton High Flow Air Filter

 
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My buddy spent 15k on his ride

 
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well yea u gotta have big cash to have a porsche in the first place... ill prolly have a 12-13sec 4 banger before a porsche cause i dont think im winnin the lottery anytime soon

 
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You'd be surprised. I still get around 28mpg on the highway and 20 city. When I was Stock I got around 32mpg highway and 25 city. Some spirited driving but mostely just cruising. Not bad for a 400+rwhp car in my mind.

And again to the guy that said "domestics may fly but honda you can rely" I'm still waiting for you to find me a Honda that has 150+K miles on it, runs 12's, is daily driven, and has never had the valve covers off the motor. When you can do that I'll believe your statement about the hondas.

 
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Damn that hatch looked fast!! I wanna see more vids, longer, and from 0 if you got any Captain!!

Hey WS6, nice pics!! I was wondering what kind of exhaust you've got and what kinda head & cam set are you running? I own a 99 Z28 btw.

 
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Basically, with a few exceptions.

If you have enough money any modded car can beat any stock car. Engine swaps, turbos, nitrous, whatever, if you have enough money to mod a car up the wazooo, you can beat any other stock car in the world. But . . if you are trying to keep it street legal, then that changes things.

Then you have to take into consideration how you are racing, drag, circuit, rally, slalom (*sp)?

Anyone remember that Celica drag car about a year ago in Import Tuner? They swapped out the engine with a V8 from a Tundra, had an insane amount of Nitrous running through, with some crazy turbo boost? It had well over 1000HP. The mag was talking about them having to change the valves every other run or something like that. Good example of taking a 180HP Import and making it retardedly fast. Of course ask it to turn a corner and you're in for a surprise wall inspection, plus there is no wayyy it was street legal.

 
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I have a good friend who's friend owns a shop and is trying to make one of those awd celica's you're talking about into a beast. I never knew they were AWD!!! Thats badass. As far as videos go on my buddy's hatch, I am trying to get my friends to scrape up that porsche video. If not I will try and find something else. Sorry

 
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Corsa exhaust, Custom speced cam, and stock heads. The cam specs are 228/224, 588/581, 111lsa.

 
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5.7L with 400 hp is about 88 hp per liter.... the b16a2 1.6L has 160 hp stock 100 hp per liter will run over 200k miles before it dies....the k20 type s motor has 100 hp per liter too.... and will run over 200k what ls1 will run for that long none...and that is why honda is more reliable than gm ford etc....dont get me wrong i still have an 84 camaro sitting around but the honda is more reliable and does make more power per liter stock also

 
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LOL When you there isn't anything smart to say someone can always bring up the ricer argument of more HP per litre. About ls1's going over 200k you better check your stats again buddy there have been a few that have and lots that are over 100k.

I'm still waiting for someone to find a civic that can run 12's, is daily driving, has 150k+ miles on it and has never had the valve covers off. When someone can come up with that then I'll agree that the Hondas are more reliable untill then there isn't anything proven. MANY 3rd gen Fbodies have 250K+ miles on the original motors and have held up fine. A car is only as reliable as you make it. Simple service and a GM 350, or 350 based motor, will last forever.

 
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hey man im the f-body know it all of the site! lol j/k.

but yea im a domestic guy to but i will be the first to admit that honda is good at what it does make ECNO BOXES but GM is and other domestic companies make better sports cars.

 
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Show me an F-body that has 500,000 miles on it and can still be driven to the mall or grocery store on a daily basis. Last time I was in the local Honda dealership I was talking mileage with a salemen and he said some guy brought his car in with 500k on it for a check up the week before. I asked him if they was unheard of because I was going to call bs on it but he said hondas have been known to have rediculous amounts of miles on them with original motors. Domestics are great cars but are designed for different reasons.

 
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and ur comment is pretty ignorant really if u ask me cause its uneducated....no honda is gonna be daily driven and never had its valve cover off....thats a fact...as for having work done yeh i can show u a bunch of em with many miles on em...back to the point there arent any here because the 7th gen civic aint doin it

 
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id rather have a gt2 over the gt3, its muuch faster... captain dun worry bout the vid ive seen all sorts of stuff like civics beatin ferraris, neons beating vipers, etc etc... i know it can be done i just dont see superiority cuz no matter how many times a cavalier beats a z06, id rather have the z06 anyday and that goes for any eco car vs exotic/muscle

 
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Its a cavilier though, they suck anyway. If i personally got offered a Z06 or a clean civic that could beat it, I would take the Z06 drive it for a week, sell it and make another clean civic that can beat the civic I was offered

 
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There is no way to prove an F-body has 500k miles on it, the odometer starts over at 100k, but I can garantee that there are F-bodies out there with 500k mile bodies on them.

The statement isn't ignorant, you're just mad because I proved your whole reliability point wrong, plain and simple. The GM 350, or 350 based motor, is a very reliable motor and has been for years and will be for years to come.

I didn't come on here to dispute what car is better. People buy what they like and what they want. To get a civic to the same performance level I have it would become a car that was only daily driveable by someone who could do their own work or was rich enough to pay for the work to be done. My car needs nothing but fluid changes and probably valve springs in the next 30k miles, and only because I'd do it for a safety issue.

I don't daily drive my t/a nor do I need to. If I get a motor that will last me 15k miles I'll be happy as can be. I put less than 3k miles on it per year and hopefully you can all do the math and see how long I'd be able to drive the car.

 
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f bodies start over at 100k?? thats pretty weak if its true...
ive serviced a gmc sonomo before that had 280k miles on it and it was still in almost like new condition over all, i think it was on its 2nd clutch and had 1 rebuild

 
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3rd gen Fbodies do. And how is where the odometer rolls over weak? Even a complete moron could still keep track of the miles.

 
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its weak BECAUSE you can never know how many miles are on it for sure if youre buying one.... yea even a moron could keep track of the miles, but a genious looking to buy the car wouldnt know for sure if it has 120k or 300k on the chassis

 
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I'll agree with the idea that the interiors of imports are put together better than GMs and such, but here's what I've really got to ask...

Who gives a **** if it'll run past 500,000 miles? Do you want to drive a car that old with that many miles on it? I don't, and I think I'd sell the car LONG before it got to that many miles. There are a lot of things we COULD do, but why would you want to?


...and all that from a guy who hates Chevy.

Here's another question... does the Nissan 350Z suck? Most people here go crazy when they hear about one, but it only makes 82hp per litre. A lot of you guys act like anything less than 100hp per litre is worthless.

Nissan 350Z - 82hp per litre.
Acura NSX - 90hp per litre.
Aston Martin DB7 - 70hp per litre.
BMW M5 - 79hp per litre.
Chevy Corvette - 71hp per litre.
Dodge Viper - 60hp per litre.
Lamborghini Murcielago - 92hp per litre.
Mercedes CL600 - 89hp per litre.

Do those cars all suck since they're less than 100hp per litre?

The Honda Civic EX makes 74hp per litre. So our cars suck, right? You LX owners must be awfully depressed with your 65hp per litre. Or does that put all of us in the Vette and Viper range?

I'm just raising points.

 
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yea dude thats a good way to think about it... i got more horsepower (per liter) than a lame old aston martin... wooo wooo

 
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ok, theres a gsr integra here where i live with 135 k miles and runs mid-low 12s on stock internals. sounds pretty reliable to me.

 
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i think my car runs somewhere inthe 40's

 
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Was your point that HP per litre arguments are retarded? If a car is slow than another car it doesn't matter if it makes 20 million hp per litre, the other car is still faster.

 
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i'd just like to point out that this is one of the dumbest things i've ever read....

ok back to your argument.