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Old Feb 3, 2004
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Originally posted by AznThug08
On my 2001 sticker it says VTEC-E but on my 2003 it just says VTEC. I wonder why they did that. The engines didn't change.
What sticker is that? I've never seen any VTEC-E appeared on any of my stickers that government issued (I live in Texas and no engine information is given on any government issued stickers.), and the manufacturer sticker.
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Old Feb 4, 2004
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Originally posted by 82801BA
[B]At first I didn't belive our cars has VTEC-E, but since I took a look at inside the engine head and Honda's official pages, I finally come up with a better description with it.
The only proof I have of both the EX and HX having VTEC-E is in the 2001 Civic Brochure. Both engines are listed as VTEC-E. They have obviously changed the brochures to only show VTEC on both and added that the HX is a Lean-Burn version. I don't know why they dropped the -E from the name...possibly to avoid confusion??
http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/sohcvtece.html
By the definition of fuel economy, I do not believe our VTEC has any advantage than a non-VTEC. Take a look at the 04 Civic brochure, and the LX actually has the same gas mileage as the EX.
Yes, if you bought an EX over the LX just for the VTEC, you got ripped. The EX makes only 12hp more by the combination of a different exhaust manifold/header and the VTEC head. It should've had the 160hp Si motor.
Let's check the part # of HX and EX, the camshaft has a different part number, and is more expensive for the EX. If they are the same engine, then everything is supposed to be the same.
Well, duh. The HX is a lean-burn version, so naturally the cam is going to be different. The HX is meant to be the high mileage version of the regular civic. It's also their car to showoff the CVT transmission.
IMO, the HX should replace the LX. It should have the same amount of options that the LX has now. I would also offer the HX in the sedan bodystyle, where it would probably do more good than the coupe. I would assume that sedan buyers with families would want the higher mileage engine moreso than a coupe buyer.

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Civic used to have no LX on coupe models before as I rememeber, right?
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OK now, what I see is this from Honda's model library:

2001 Civic Coupe
Specs & Features
1.7-liter, 16-valve, 115-hp Ultra-Low-Emission Vehicle (ULEV)-rated engine (DX, LX)
1.7-liter, 16-valve, SOHC VTEC®-E engine (117-hp, HX; 127-hp, EX)
Dual front airbags (SRS)
Power windows, mirrors and door locks (Except DX)
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) (EX)
Standard air conditioning (EX, Si)

And that's all the VTEC-E I have seem relating to Civic EX. 2002 model doesn't even say about VTEC-E, just SOHC VTEC. So no idea on what's going on.
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Originally posted by 82801BA
Civic used to have no LX on coupe models before as I rememeber, right?
History of the Civic (up to 6th gen) @ Edmunds

More VTEC-E info:
I've also found the review article from Car and Driver back in November 2000, when they first reviewed the 2001 civic. Strangely, they don't even mention the HX.
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...rticle_id=3267
"In DX and LX models, power increases from 106 to 115 horsepower, while torque increases from 103 pound-feet at 4600 rpm to 110 at 4500 rpm. In EX models (like the coupe you see here), which use Honda's VTEC-E engine, power remains unchanged at 127 horsepower at 6300 rpm, but the torque improves from 107 pound-feet at 5500 rpm to 114 at a more usable 4800 rpm."

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It seems strange that the old 1.6 SOHC VTEC makes 127 and the 1.7 still makes 127. If everything related to the engine is unchanged, then all the 1.6 EX are VTEC-E also.
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great job, very informative
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Nice, but many instances of incorrect grammar/punctuation. Fix it.
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Tip: An apostrophe never should be added to "its". Never use for possesive, common mistake.

Incorrect: "Ever since it's conception..."

Correct: "Ever since its conception..."
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Grammar and punctuation are fixed. I should've used MSword to check it, but I forgot to do it before I posted it.
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^ I think it's a lady, dude. But Bellz, your word usage could use some help. :-p Sorry, this is coming from a very critical eye when it comes to proper English. But, nonetheless, great job... Why did you write this? Just for fun? I'd suggest adding some visual aids (pics)
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A lady? I don't know what you mean by that. I think my word usage is fine, but thanks for your assistance. I wrote it to add content to my site and provide people like you with useful information.

I never claimed to be an English language master, so don't expect me to be perfect. I write more accurately than at least 90% of the people online, so just enjoy the article and don't worry about mistakes, ok?
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Re: History of the 7th gen civic article

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Anyway, check it out and tell you what you think.

Click here to read.
I'm only doing what you've instructed of us!

And what I meant by saying you're a lady.. the guy above you said "Good job, bro!"
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nice job must of taken you a good while
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Clearly laid out. Excellent info. Thanks for taking the time.
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very nice and pretty extensive. well done.
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