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Check out the latest Sport Compact Car (November Issue). This issue has a vette and eclipse on the cover and reads "Midnight Club". It's on page 40 in the "Rumours and lies" section.

It reads:

"Whispers from deep inside Honda have at least one Civic coupe running around with an RSX Type-S drivetrain as a proposed new Civic Si. Let's hope so."

I'm sorry if this is a repost. I looked around and didn't see it mentioned yet.

Hey Honda build this for under $22K and give it a limited slip differential and the Type-S suspension at the same time. Don't muck this up. If this comes out, and soon, I will DEFINATELY buy it. I am starting to lean towards getting the RSX-S but this will definatley be the way to go.

 
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i doubt it will happen. 03 coupe came with good ole d17a2 boo

 
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that would be awsome

 
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I'll admit it. I'm an optimist at heart. With that in mind, it would be nice to believe that Honda is seeing the increased competition and wants to improve it's brand appeal.

 
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If this would happen id trade in my 02 Ex in a heart beat

 
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it wouldn't happen unless they just wanted to ruin their rsx-s sales

 
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Maybe.

But at the same time the acura is a luxury car and the civic is not. So even if the civic is a little faster the RSX will sell to those peeps who just a little bit more luxury, or just that acura badge. A good example of this would be the 350Z and the G35 coupe. Even tho they are the same car, with one being a little faster and one being more luxurious, they still are both selling great.

Either way i would love if Honda did this.

 
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heheh the only way i can see them competing is if they start putting in a turbo in one of their cars.... mmm spoolin

 
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i don't think this will happen. but it would be crazy if it did. Every 7thgen civic owner would be dyin to trade there's in. but it just doesn't make sense, cuz no one would buy an rsx-s, if they could get the same engine in a (assuming) cheaper car.

 
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let's just imagine for a second that everyone who buys a car doesn't exactly know what a k20 is, or perhaps, doesn't know the difference between lsd transmission and regular transmission. now, with that in mind, what makes you think that the rsx-s will LOSE sales? I'll be one to admit that when I got my car, I didn't know **** about cars. I wanted a civic because when I bought my car, the "civic SI" was the **** (thanks nemat and clubsi.com, BAH) anyway, so I get a "civic" because I liked how it looked bubbly and thought it was gonna be nearly the same damn thing as a civic SI. lo-and-behold, now I feel stupid. but the point of the story is that people who buy cars aren't car experts and so when most people go to buy a car, they aren't going to say "wow, this k20 civic is lighter than an k20 rsx-s, so it's faster, thus I will buy it.". they may, however, buy an rsx over a civic because they like the look, or think maybe that acura is more luxurious than honda, likewise for a civic. truth is, a k20 in a civic is going to attract smart buyers seeking power in a nice economy car that isn't going to run them a fortune for insurance. however, it isn't going to steal from the many, and I mean MANY, women (particularly asian women, no offense intended) seeking rsx-s's because of it's elegance, class and popularity-- not to mention acura badge and almost 30k pricetag. in the end, a motor swap for our cars is not a requirement, but is also not a mistake. putting k20 engine in civic will definately attract many old civic owners looking to get more power for the same style they are accustomed to--and hopefully, maybe a little less disrespect from the race scene out there ******* our ride. who knows?

 
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yeah I think they should turbo the civic.
dam doge srt's hit a 14.1 stock!!!

I am wonerding if a civic with a rsx type -s engine
would be cheaper than having an acura!!!

 
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ME TOO!!!!

 
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There are K20A civics sold overseas, so if Honda does go ahead with this, it's just a matter of crashing a bunch of them for DOT stuff.

If Honda is really paranoid about losing RSX sales, then they can cap the number of K20A civics available for sale.

Honda can always detune the engine, and give it some really ambiguous number, like 180bhp.... so it slots in between RSX's 160 and type S' 200

problem solved.

 
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If Honda did do this, I would nto trade in my civic for one. I'd wait for some dumbass kid to wreck one that his parents bought him and swap everything. And if Honda does do this, wouldn't it drop the value of the K20s and make the motors cheaper for us to do the swap?

 
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I highly doubt it. We are not going to see the RSX-R so why bother with this. Honda's trend is now low emissions vehicles all except for the S2000.

 
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I'm not going to try and pretend to be an emissions expert. I also do not know the emissions ratings of different Hondas. But your statement is inherently flawed. If all vehicles, except the s2000, are low emissions, then you are including the RSX-S. If the RSX-S is low emissions than a civic with it's drivetrain will have EQUALLY low emissions.

 
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actually the s2000 is a LEV as well

 
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There exists a significant market of tens of thousands of people, at least, that DOES know what the k20 and a LSD transmission is. Therefore I think production of this "civic type-S" would adversely affect sales of the RSX, maybe a bit more so the type-S because it's "performance oriented". The base model sales should stay pretty close to what it is.

 
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hell all i want is an SI coupe again

 
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not going to happen.

i'd rather have the 00 si's anyways. those own all

 
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I don't get it. If it were true, I'd rather get the RSX type s (24k) if the Civic type s is going to be around 22k. Now if the Civic type s was priced around 20k, that would be a different story.

 
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ah.

no.

I'm sure they may have a civic running around with a K20 in it.. and I'm not talking about the hatchy....

but it doesn't make business sense to bring out a car with that in it.

perhaps a 160 hp coupe.. and rid the hatchy... (going back to the 99-00 coupe si format)

but thats doubtful too.

 
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It will never happen.. ever.. ever.. evAr.
If they're smart they'll offer an Si(R) coupe with the K20A3 after the 2004 facelift.
They would NEVER offer a K20A2 in a civic... it would take away from the RSX-S sales and it just wouldnt be logical.

 
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If they did it would be the 160 hp version, or even less.

I would trade mine it also, if the price was right.
Maybe, maybe not.

But it would definatly bring down the price of the K20. More engines on the road, and more cars to wreck.

I dont think they would ask more than 20K for it.

that option would probably add like $2500, which would bring the total to 20K.

Yeah it would be pretty cool to have a factory K20. Then we could just swap on a Type-S head.($750 or so)
The only thing is the high compression, I think its 11:1. Real high to be running a lot of boost. The base K20 is like 9.7 i think.

I would actually be pretty happy if they just came out with the 6 speed in our cars (not happening without the K20 probably)

 
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Word up!!

 
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The argument that this Civic Si coupe would steal sales from the RSX - S makes alot more sense than when people say a Civic Type R would steal RSX - S sales.

However, considering the luxury features present in the RSX - S that would not be in a Civic Si coupe I'd say that most people would still go with the RSX.

In theory, would you buy a Civic for $21,000 that had 190 HP. OR would you spend that extra $3,000 on an RSX and get 200 HP but also leather and that extra year under warranty?

I think the casual car buyer, and there are plenty, would still pick the RSX - S. For some people money might be an issue and they would buy the cheaper Civic. Just my 2 cents.

 
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You know. everyone is saying that they wont do it because it will take away from RSX sales. this is kind of funny, because acura is actually reducing RSX production in an effort to move it's image more upscale. They are already selling more than they'd like. i read this on the CL forum somewhere. I'll try to find it for you guys, but not tonight.

This makes a Civic Type-S more viable.

 
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I dont think reduced rsx-s sales would be an issue.

They need something so fill the gap between the Si, base RSX and civic coupe that the loss of the coupe si left.

The new Si is a bit of a performer, but not everybody wants a hatchback. And not everybody wants all the bells and whistles(or cant afford i should say) that the rsx has.

 
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just cuz honda may have some kind of prototype civic running around with a K20 doesnt mean it will be release anytime soon.

im sure they are just testing it out and seeing the possibility that it will become the 8thgen civic SI.

 
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umm...no they dont own all. the new Si's have the same HP number as the coupes did, and have something like a 20% torque increase...i'm not sure of the exact number. and with the iVtec, the new Si's have the full powerband at the driver's fingertips LONG before the coupe hits Vtec...with or without our 6800 redline. and the weight difference is not even a factor...the older Si's are only a couple hundred pounds lighter anyways...

anyways, honda will never go thru with this....its just like the CTR...just like the RSX-R...if they did it, sweet...i'd probably think of getting one...but no one should hold their breath over a rumor