Bolt-on Engine Performance Post questions/information about intakes, exhausts, headers, lightweight pulleys or flywheels? It belongs here.

Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Old Mar 30, 2014
  #1  
BootyDo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
BootyDo is an unknown quantity at this point
Question Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Hi All,

My soon to be wife has a 2003 EX. It's a 4-door automatic, but I always loved Civics myself. She just clicked 100,000 miles and I changed the spark plugs and air filter. After reading this great DIY (Forgotten Mods), I'm eager to really clean some stuff - including the throttle and so on. Then I started thinking... could I get a decent intake (since I'd have to remove the air housing anyway), and maybe a header for no more than $200ish? I'm not looking for anything insane on this - it's still her daily driver - but just something to bring back some of the response.

Also, somewhat related, I was going to do the zip-tie throttle cable thing and noticed that even with 100k on the engine, the throttle still opens all the way when totally floored. Would it still be wise to throw in a zip-tie or would that risk too much tension on the throttle cable?

Thanks for any input!
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2014
  #2  
mikey1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,499
Likes: 5
Rep Power: 209
mikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

you could get a short intake for under 200, but your not looking at much in the way of performance, it will be alot louder which your wife may not like,

a header will not accomplish anything, unless you do the entire/complete exhaust
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2014
  #3  
GolNat's Avatar
Prelude Owner
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,200
Likes: 357
From: DE
Rep Power: 243
GolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to behold
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

An intake will bring back some of the throttle response. I noticed that when I installed my cold air intake. I would say it did increase torque slightly. Not going to get a decent header for under $200.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2014
  #4  
xRiCeBoYx's Avatar
Administrator
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Administrator
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,620
Likes: 1,252
From: Las Vegas, NV
Rep Power: 511
xRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

I know you're looking at engine performance, but grab the neuspeed front upper strut bar. You can prolly find one for $100 used. Best bang for your buck mod, IMO.

I didn't notice the difference when I first installed it, but when I took it off, the difference was apparent.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2014
  #5  
BootyDo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
BootyDo is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Thanks guys! Sadly, it sort of sounds like the "upgrades" would be in vain. Although the CAI sounds promising in terms of response! I was looking through several posts and the intake seemed to be a consensus along with what you guys mentioned. I guess aside from making the engine look cleaner, might be a waste, (rather put the money towards an air compressor ). As for the header, i kind of figured that until i saw the HP header thread. I think i was secretly hoping an intake and just header would throw maybe 10hp but sounds like a pipe dream.

So the strut bar...that's interesting. Might see what the going rate is. I think i'm going to troll through some more threads and make a solid "To Do" list that I can do myself on the cheap - such as the maintenance like the oxygen sensors and go from there. Until then, I think I'm going to give the zip-tie-cable thing a go

EDIT Just a thought. My Explorer ran like crap a year ago and I pulled a code for a misfire. Change the plugs, (biggest money pit ever on the Triton V8), and nothing. Changed to Accel engine coils and the damn thing moved like it was on jet fuel. Civic OEM ones looked fine when i did the plugs, but any gains there?

Last edited by BootyDo; Mar 30, 2014 at 07:10 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2014
  #6  
GolNat's Avatar
Prelude Owner
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,200
Likes: 357
From: DE
Rep Power: 243
GolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to behold
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Plugs are lot going to change anything as far as hp is concerned but if they are worn it will help it run better. If you do replace them use NGK or Denso Laser, NO BOSCH!
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2014
  #7  
BootyDo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
BootyDo is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Thanks GolNat! I went with the NGK Iridium and this morning was the first drive for my gf. She didn't really notice anything. Sort of bummed out, but honestly, the plugs I pulled looked really good at 100k so how can i be disappointed?

I'm a Ford dude. Family thing, you know? Always liked Hondas - mainly the Civics. Getting under the hood the past year or so, I wish I had photos to compare how her 2003 EX has "aged" against my newer Explorer - which will apparently only run if it lights up the dash like a Christmas tree. Kind of cool to get a "wow" factor, but I think regular maintenance, unlike the Explorer, shouldn't count as a freakin' upgrade!
Civic 1 Explorer 0
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2014
  #8  
CraigW's Avatar
35+ Years Driving Japanese Autos
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 4,904
Likes: 14
Rep Power: 308
CraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

1 question.... has the timing belt ever been changed ??

Certainly something to consider.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2014
  #9  
ek98swaped's Avatar
ek98swaped
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: pennsylvania
Rep Power: 0
ek98swaped is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

for 200 a nice thing to do to make it quicker would be a cold air intake itl add hp and always a quick way to add hp quick,also a header is also a quick way you can find a nice used header on craigslist if you dont wanna spend to much on one
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2014
  #10  
BootyDo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
BootyDo is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Timing Belt? Didn't even think of that. I just took a gander at the two DIYs... That might be a bit over my head. Wonder what a dealer would charge for that...?
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2014
  #11  
CraigW's Avatar
35+ Years Driving Japanese Autos
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 4,904
Likes: 14
Rep Power: 308
CraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of lightCraigW is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Originally Posted by BootyDo
Timing Belt? Didn't even think of that.
A broken belt will damage these engines,

I put together everything OEM online for a little over $200.

Our dealer wanted $650 total and would have only done minimal, I had seals & tensioner done along with other items.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2014
  #12  
mikey1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,499
Likes: 5
Rep Power: 209
mikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Originally Posted by BootyDo
Timing Belt? Didn't even think of that. I just took a gander at the two DIYs... That might be a bit over my head. Wonder what a dealer would charge for that...?
that should be your number one priority and ASAP

now you know what to put that $200 buck towards
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2014
  #13  
GolNat's Avatar
Prelude Owner
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,200
Likes: 357
From: DE
Rep Power: 243
GolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to beholdGolNat is a splendid one to behold
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Originally Posted by CraigW
A broken belt will damage these engines,
Yes it will.

I wouldn't take a chance if you are not sure if its been done. If you can verify that it has been done, also verify which parts have been changed. I assumed when purchasing my 01 that the timing belt tensioner was done since the service was done at a dealer from the previous owner. I think I assumed wrong since the tensioner broke on me before the next scheduled timing belt change.

Originally Posted by mikey1
now you know what to put that $200 buck towards
I agree, the mods can wait.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2014
  #14  
BootyDo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
BootyDo is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Sounds like a timing belt is definitely on the wish list! I think i need to reread those two DIYs and see if it's something I can handle. More than any "upgrades", this baby needs to be her daily driver.

Thanks for the advice!
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2014
  #15  
xRiCeBoYx's Avatar
Administrator
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Administrator
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,620
Likes: 1,252
From: Las Vegas, NV
Rep Power: 511
xRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Timing belt isn't hard. Just intimidating and time consuming.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2014
  #16  
UM4R3X's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
UM4R3X is an unknown quantity at this point
Cool Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Originally Posted by BootyDo
Hi All,

My soon to be wife has a 2003 EX. It's a 4-door automatic, but I always loved Civics myself. She just clicked 100,000 miles and I changed the spark plugs and air filter. After reading this great DIY (Forgotten Mods), I'm eager to really clean some stuff - including the throttle and so on. Then I started thinking... could I get a decent intake (since I'd have to remove the air housing anyway), and maybe a header for no more than $200ish? I'm not looking for anything insane on this - it's still her daily driver - but just something to bring back some of the response.

Also, somewhat related, I was going to do the zip-tie throttle cable thing and noticed that even with 100k on the engine, the throttle still opens all the way when totally floored. Would it still be wise to throw in a zip-tie or would that risk too much tension on the throttle cable?

Thanks for any input!
Don't bother with the intake, they don't give any performance gains unless you add more mods to the engine which will then only increase it by maybe 10% power. Also you won't be able to find a header for under 200$. If you're looking to increase power, the best way to go would be to get a stage 1 camshaft, and you can get those for around 280$ which isn't that much over your budget for the performance.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2014
  #17  
BootyDo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
BootyDo is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Originally Posted by xRiCeBoYx
Timing belt isn't hard. Just intimidating and time consuming.
Sure you weren't referring to my forthcoming marriage?

Originally Posted by UM4R3X
Don't bother with the intake, they don't give any performance gains unless you add more mods to the engine which will then only increase it by maybe 10% power. Also you won't be able to find a header for under 200$. If you're looking to increase power, the best way to go would be to get a stage 1 camshaft, and you can get those for around 280$ which isn't that much over your budget for the performance.
Ironically, some posts mentioned doing the stage 1 cam while doing the timing belt. Could be in the works. I'd really prefer to do the TB myself for a number of reasons, but I might call a few dealers this week with our taxes on the way just to play it on the safe side. If they're outrageous, it's got to be a DIY.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2014
  #18  
mikey1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,499
Likes: 5
Rep Power: 209
mikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

Originally Posted by BootyDo
Ironically, some posts mentioned doing the stage 1 cam while doing the timing belt. Could be in the works. I'd really prefer to do the TB myself for a number of reasons, but I might call a few dealers this week with our taxes on the way just to play it on the safe side. If they're outrageous, it's got to be a DIY.
a botched timing belt job can severely damage your engine,

if you have any doubts in your mind that you can not complete the job properly i would suggest taking it to a dealer,

same thing applies to a camshaft replacement
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2014
  #19  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,176
Likes: 1,605
From: TN
Rep Power: 367
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: Any "performance" gains available for $200 on an 2003 EX?

if you going to do a timing belt replacement, please do check the head gasket for leaks, there's two easy tests for them. (the job is almost the same).

+1 on the suspension mods, these cars like and deliver more on that field.
The other mod is the rear sway bar, such as installing a RSX rear sway bar, that you could get from a junk yard.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
SammySC
7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005
121
Apr 7, 2017 07:43 PM
Munzy
7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005
21
Oct 7, 2015 07:48 AM
sesi
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
0
Oct 1, 2015 02:03 PM
Raiool
Fuel, Oil, Cleaners & Other Maintenance
3
Oct 1, 2015 10:42 AM
ken4444
Introduce Yourself!
3
Sep 30, 2015 07:37 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 PM.