Injen RD vs AEM V2....
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you'll feel something.... most LX/DX owners are happy with the V2. Some even swear by that intake.....
I honestly dont see how the V2 for the 7thgen is only for 5 speed though. For the older Civic yes, but for the 7thgen... no
I honestly dont see how the V2 for the 7thgen is only for 5 speed though. For the older Civic yes, but for the 7thgen... no
i have V-2, i love it, it is loud, but i noticed some difference, i also put a header and hks exhaust on at the same time, so maybe that had an effext too, but when i ran to the store after i put on the intake, and before i did the header and exhaust, i did notice a difference with just the intake too, but it is your choice, ..oh, and i have a DX, and my V-2 is only a short ram.
Originally Posted by Mirage
Thats a pretty firm statement, got any dynos to back that up or is it just your $0.02 worth?
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An Injen cai and k&n fipk were both dynoed around 5whp. That doesn't seem like much, but it definately puts more air into the engine especially in cold weather. I felt a difference with the K&N when you get on the gas.
Originally Posted by ACURAwerx
someone on this site dynoed their car stock and dynod with AEM v2, and they actually lost power
Originally Posted by ACURAwerx
anyone that knows anything about cars knows that intake does NOTHING for a civic sohc
It's easy to jump in and throw about your opinion, just please remember that a good baseline-comparison dyno test will answer all. Everything else is just speculation/misinformation.
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I am being serious. The fipk dyno showed almost 5whp, but remember that it's peak hp at 6200rpms. I still feel a difference tho, especially when pressing the gas from a stop the car takes off better. I have other engine work done, but still there was a difference when the car was stock with the intake.
There are different ways to mod, depending on where you want power. If you like to give it gas alot and keep it high in the rpms, you will benefit more from mods that reduce backpressure like header, exhaust, etc. Having excess backpressure actually robs power from the engine. However, there is a tradeoff. Adding mods like this often affects air velocity. When air velocity drops, low end suffers. Having a tiny header and stock intake keeps air flowing very fast. This is great for driving under 3k rpms, but above that power will suffer because the engine is restricted from pulling in more air. I guess with the K&N, I gained some low end back that the other mods took away. If I keep the rpms below 3k, the car does not perform well at all. But if I step on the gas more to open the throttle and let in more air, my low end is better. Once vtec kicks on to hi cam, there is definately a difference.
Hope this helps. Oh and the restrictions of the stock intake system determine how well an intake will perform. Our intakes are actually fairly good in that the pipe diameter is about the same as the tb opening. The resonator isn't as restrictive as one may think. Yet the airbox acts as a reservoir to provide extra air for better low end performance. That's why a new ram intake only adds a few hp throughout the rpm band. When it gets colder out, a short ram will perform much better than stock. Yes this is all talk I guess, but it's based on dyno results.
There are different ways to mod, depending on where you want power. If you like to give it gas alot and keep it high in the rpms, you will benefit more from mods that reduce backpressure like header, exhaust, etc. Having excess backpressure actually robs power from the engine. However, there is a tradeoff. Adding mods like this often affects air velocity. When air velocity drops, low end suffers. Having a tiny header and stock intake keeps air flowing very fast. This is great for driving under 3k rpms, but above that power will suffer because the engine is restricted from pulling in more air. I guess with the K&N, I gained some low end back that the other mods took away. If I keep the rpms below 3k, the car does not perform well at all. But if I step on the gas more to open the throttle and let in more air, my low end is better. Once vtec kicks on to hi cam, there is definately a difference.
Hope this helps. Oh and the restrictions of the stock intake system determine how well an intake will perform. Our intakes are actually fairly good in that the pipe diameter is about the same as the tb opening. The resonator isn't as restrictive as one may think. Yet the airbox acts as a reservoir to provide extra air for better low end performance. That's why a new ram intake only adds a few hp throughout the rpm band. When it gets colder out, a short ram will perform much better than stock. Yes this is all talk I guess, but it's based on dyno results.
question: for those with injen, what did u put between the bottom pipe and that metal piece(just before the filter) where it rubs. I tried using the rubber piece that it came with but it cut right through and is starting to cut through the pipe. For now I took the bottom pipe out and using it as a short ram. anyone else have this problem?
but anyways the extra power is not that noticeable in my opinion
but anyways the extra power is not that noticeable in my opinion
Originally Posted by Mirage
I'm not sure I believe that. I remember that "story" going around 7G before the V2 was even out. Now, apparently, it has been updated to include the V2. But, no worries, just post a link to it and we can all learn from the users experience. You do have a link to this right?
Gee, now you are making me feel bad. My mom always said I knew alot about cars. You're not calling my mom a liar are you?
It's easy to jump in and throw about your opinion, just please remember that a good baseline-comparison dyno test will answer all. Everything else is just speculation/misinformation.
Gee, now you are making me feel bad. My mom always said I knew alot about cars. You're not calling my mom a liar are you?
It's easy to jump in and throw about your opinion, just please remember that a good baseline-comparison dyno test will answer all. Everything else is just speculation/misinformation.
yea, i do have the link, just search 7thgen actually, a long time member did this test, so its not just some kid who decided to post that they dynoed their car and lost hp.... I'm sure ull be able to find the post, i dont' feel like searching right now, im lazy, sorry. don't take me the wrong way, im not saying its stupid to get a intake or something. im just saying its stupid to debate is aem better then injen, stuff like that. we have d17s, one isn't really going to better then the other, cuz bolt ons don't add anything for our cars. EVeryone on this site knows it (whos know about our cars). INtake is a waste of money that just makes noise. sorry of i come off the wrong way, its just annoying to see the same debate worthless 10000 times. Plus, those are have aem are going to say aem is better and those who have injen is going to say injen is better. the fact is the person who designed the aem intake also designed the injen intakes, so go figure...
Yes, I agree that debating the issue is pretty pointless. It's funny how divided people get. Always degenerates into a "mine is the best and your sucks" thing. Whatever is hot that week. It used to be the volant, now it seems to not be. Thats why I rant and rave to people that only a real dyno tells you anything. Everything else is just opinion, and usually wrong.
If your point is that the D17 is gutless so why bother with an intake, well I kind of agree. Thats why I swapped in a B16 in my 01 LX. But, you have to accept that most people always want to go faster and dont/cant drop a turbo in. In this case a good I/H/E will help a D17 out. Not as much as FI, nor will it make 200HP, but it will certinly help.
BTW, I personally know the guy who designed the AEM CAI intake and the V2 intake for the 7G and he did not design the Injen.
If your point is that the D17 is gutless so why bother with an intake, well I kind of agree. Thats why I swapped in a B16 in my 01 LX. But, you have to accept that most people always want to go faster and dont/cant drop a turbo in. In this case a good I/H/E will help a D17 out. Not as much as FI, nor will it make 200HP, but it will certinly help.
BTW, I personally know the guy who designed the AEM CAI intake and the V2 intake for the 7G and he did not design the Injen.
my point is that intake/header/exhaust doesn't do much.. thats almost 1000 wasted, for our car. get it if u want, but in the end, ur just making noise and losing money. On the other hand, for a b16, yes it will add power. And i read that the aem cai and injen guy was the same.. i dont know, but thats waht i read. Maybe it was the old guy that made the old aems,
Originally Posted by ACURAwerx
my point is that intake/header/exhaust doesn't do much.
Originally Posted by ACURAwerx
how much did ur b16swap cost? what are u going to do when it comes to inspection?
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