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Old Dec 25, 2003
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k20a swap, cold air intake

im gonna do a k20a engine swap into my 04 civic, i was told that a cold air intake for the civic will not fit after i get the swap, will it not fit into the actual engine, or will it not fit because of the layout of the pipes?
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not to sound like an ***.. but if this is ur best question about a k20 swap dont even bother . this is not a buy motor mount kit and throw in swap.
parts alone not including the engine will total to over 2500. NOT including the engine.
and the labor involved is crazy.

just my 2 cents.
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Yes, i can vouch that the labor is NOT fun at all. However i am using the AEM v2 and it works just fine, i wouldn't even bother with a cai for this swap... i tried the injen and it does not work. good luck with your swap and fishing for all the bullshit tiny parts needed
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Can you list all of the tiny parts needed? Everyone says you need them, but no one lists what they are.
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yea its called SEARCH. like everyone else.
the list is over 20 parts and in excess of 2500 bucks.
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As many times as this been posted:

Parts Needed
- K20A2 or K20A3 (from Civic Si) Engine With:
- AC compressor
- alternator
- P/S pump or idler pulley (from Civic Si)
- wiring harness
- exhaust manifold and catalytic converter

- ECU
- Transmission and starter
- intermediate shaft
- Axles from either 02 Civic Si or 94 up Integra GSR (we used 02 RSX with RSX knuckles and hubs)
- RSX or 02 Civic Si subframe
- Hasport ESK1 bolt in mount kit (as of this time the kit will not work with the K24)
- Hasport ESKWH conversion wiring harness
- RSX shifter assembly and cables
- 02 Civic Si radiator and fans (although the RSX will fit with some trimming around the radiator cap opening in the grill)
- 02 Civic Si upper and lower radiator hoses (RSX are longer and may kink)
- RSX throttle cable
- RSX fuel line, brake booster line and purge line
- RSX AC line from compressor to condensor
- RSX clutch lines from the master cylinder to the slave cylinder
- Custom AC line from compressor to evaporator (Hasport should have one available by April)
- 90 Accord negative battery cable

- If you want powersteering:
- RSX high pressure powersteering hose and return line
- 92 Civic P/S resevoir w/ bracket and a section of hydraulic hose to go from the pump to the resevoir


Couple of notes... you can modify the civic ps resevoir you already have to work. GSR axles do NOT work at all, they will fit into brake hubs but do not lock into the tranny (i found this out the hard way) civic si radiator fan does not fit, you have to go with an aftermarket one that is smaller. as for the small parts, the reason why nobody mentions them is that it would be redundant because everyones situation is different. i happen to have a front clip from a type s so the small parts were minimal for me. other people just have the motor and tranny, and nothing else and they usually spend about $3,000 for parts.
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im not concerned about the actual swap, i know what i need for the swap, and im not doing it myself. I dont know too much about cars, i know basics, i just got my exhaust and i wanna do more to my car before i get the money for the actual engine thats why i wanted to know if the cold air intake would fit, or if im gonna be wasting money on it.
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Originally posted by Deamon32
I dont know too much about cars



There it is ladies and gentlemen... bro before u dream up all this grand stuff for ur brand new civic that i'm sure ur mom and dad bought you... don't worry i did the same thing when i was given my car... but u gotta learn it like all of us did.... don't bother on thinkin bout these powerful motor swaps... u need to know a great deal about the car before u even think about swapping in a k20 motor... just sit on it for a lil... learn about stuff... dont' waste money on parts yet... cause u might figure out u want something else... just my .02
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so you are getting all these new parts for ur current 1.7L engine such as cold air intake and exhaust, and your planning on doing an engine swap sooon? ummm why? huge waste of money.
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Why even swap a K20A2 into an '04 Civic????? Just buy an RSX.
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What motor are you swapping? k20a? k20a2 or a3? All i have to say is good luck swapping a k20a. its not only costly but also not legal. correct me if im wrong guys but you cannot make the k20a R legit in the us right? I am currently in the process of doing an a3 into my coupe and its not as easy as it sounds with all the little things you need to buy. Also from what i hear the wiring is very tricky and not a simple task. Whoever you are going to pay to install that motor is going to charge you a fortune

My point is, like many others said do some research before you go into the swap. Itll make things a lot easier on you and the person who is installing the motor for you.

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no my parents didnt buy me the car, i bought it myself, i didnt get the rsx because i dont have the money and insurance is out of control as it is with the civic. and if u read what i wrote i bought a exaust, i want to buy an intake, but im not going to waste money on it since it will not fit the k20a engine. and like i said im getting the k20a
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i was thinking about the swap for about 3 weeks, and i was pretty sure i was gonna do it, but thinking about it realistically, i just dont wanna put that much work into the car, so i guess u guys are right, ill stick with bolt ons pretty much what gansta said
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just turbo it and get it over with.
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im thinking about turboing my 2001 civic lx, but i think i might try to go n/a since its 115 hp right now, and i dont think a reliable amount of boost will get me more horse then if i were to n/a the engine. by reliable i mean 8-10 psi. with that i might get up to 180hp if im lucky, but i think i can get closer to 220. anyone have any info on turboed 7th gen civics? i havent really been able to find any hp/quarter mile time stats.
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If youre going to stick with the d17 then i would definately go with turbo but if you go with the k20 then n/a all the way.
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Originally posted by ricergribbs
im thinking about turboing my 2001 civic lx, but i think i might try to go n/a since its 115 hp right now, and i dont think a reliable amount of boost will get me more horse then if i were to n/a the engine. by reliable i mean 8-10 psi. with that i might get up to 180hp if im lucky, but i think i can get closer to 220. anyone have any info on turboed 7th gen civics? i havent really been able to find any hp/quarter mile time stats.

try mid 13's with 9psi and stock internals... WHY dont u try the forum called forced induction that we have.
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Originally posted by ricergribbs
im thinking about turboing my 2001 civic lx, but i think i might try to go n/a since its 115 hp right now, and i dont think a reliable amount of boost will get me more horse then if i were to n/a the engine. by reliable i mean 8-10 psi. with that i might get up to 180hp if im lucky, but i think i can get closer to 220. anyone have any info on turboed 7th gen civics? i havent really been able to find any hp/quarter mile time stats.

are you brain damaged? you can get way more than that. Why don't you try learning before you post. We're gettin 400hp out of an integra running 10psi .. and you say 180 outta a D17 .. yea its a crap engine but not THAT bad
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really? ur getting 400hp out of an integra engine running 10 psi? what else do u have done to it?
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
just turbo it and get it over with.
Exactly what I was thinking. Turbo offers more tuning options to your exisitng d17. Honestly from your posts, I don't think you know what you are about to get yourself involved in. Get your money in to SF and have them fabricate a turbo, then use the extra money for internal work (heads, cam etc.) Tune up the turbo and be happy.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
try mid 13's with 9psi and stock internals... WHY dont u try the forum called forced induction that we have.
Some one had to say it....

Oh man, you gotta SEARCH!

Also remeber it also comes down to the driver. A d17 with 9psi running mid 13's could pull on just about any car on the road thats "fast". If you suck at driving, then don't expect to get the same results as somebody else.

When that turbo is tuned, it's all fair game on the roads. The car now has serious potential when it makes boost.
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SOMEBODY THANK THE LORD!!!

The Doctor has just spoken!
LoL... but i think i'll stick wit the K20 option... just more parts.. u all understand...
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I say...stick with what most of us stick with......HOPES AND DREAMS.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
BOTH.

not to sound like an ***.. but if this is ur best question about a k20 swap dont even bother . this is not a buy motor mount kit and throw in swap.
parts alone not including the engine will total to over 2500. NOT including the engine.
and the labor involved is crazy.

just my 2 cents.
you're totally right man, my swap cost $12000 to finish, cuz your not just getting an morotr in there, everything in the car has to be taken out and replaced by rsx parts. intake to exhaust , to radiator , to sterring pump, trans, just everything.....
(i didn't even know i have to replace so much stuff before i'm doing the swap)
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12 grand is alot of money. That's like buying an entire Civic?


Do you regret it? Or are you street racing for money to fill your pockets back up?

I don't get it, I would have used the 12k you spent on the swap as a downpayment for a typeS
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ok... first off lemme clear something up for everybody... Cryption.. what motor is being used in the integra? a GSR motor probably right? or some sort of a DOHC right? that's not a good comparison... sorry that's my .02 at least... if it was an older D16 with 10 PSI doing 400HP... then i'd be happier than a bear in the woods
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Thanx for the info cuz i was planning on doing a k20 swap but now i know its a waste of money. Plus its alot of labor time and also alot for the swap itself. Lots of money and time-which i have niether of right now.
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