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yall are retarded .. fighthing on the internet is like being in the special olympics .. either way your retarded if someone has a reason he likes the d-17 good for him .. maybe he likes his car and cant figure out why you would take a 12,000 car and drop what 8 grand for a new engine .. so you will be a sleeper and i can understand that ... but we are all different ... talkin sh&t on the net come one people this is for info not to be flamed ... grow up !
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by CrankinCivic
yall are retarded .. fighthing on the internet is like being in the special olympics .. either way your retarded if someone has a reason he likes the d-17 good for him .. maybe he likes his car and cant figure out why you would take a 12,000 car and drop what 8 grand for a new engine .. so you will be a sleeper and i can understand that ... but we are all different ... talkin sh&t on the net come one people this is for info not to be flamed ... grow up !
yall are retarded .. fighthing on the internet is like being in the special olympics .. either way your retarded if someone has a reason he likes the d-17 good for him .. maybe he likes his car and cant figure out why you would take a 12,000 car and drop what 8 grand for a new engine .. so you will be a sleeper and i can understand that ... but we are all different ... talkin sh&t on the net come one people this is for info not to be flamed ... grow up !
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Rep Power: 0 It isn't a chip it is a resistor that you can buy from radio shack for .20 cents and then you stick it in-line with your IAT and it tricks the IAT into thinking differently then what is going on.
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It isn't a chip it is a resistor that you can buy from radio shack for .20 cents and then you stick it in-line with your IAT and it tricks the IAT into thinking differently then what is going on.
It isn't a chip it is a resistor that you can buy from radio shack for .20 cents and then you stick it in-line with your IAT and it tricks the IAT into thinking differently then what is going on.
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Rep Power: 0 yes a "trick" isn't good, but it will not void the warrenty, like a new computer will.........and i like my sohc.....it is more of a challange, like i said, that rsx cannot compete in the sohc races....like my d17 can...they are complete diffrent engines and classes; you can't compare them!!!!
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Hey Mr. Money-is-no-object-when-it-comes-to-my-civic, why don't you buy one and then with your limitless money do before and after dynos.
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Rep Power: 0 yeah i wish you lived on the east coast too...that way i can shove your single cam down your throat. your just pissed because you cant afford a k series car...or even a k series swap for that matter. go buy your 20hp chip...if you were stupid enough to ask if it worked in the first place, i dont need to waste my time on you.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by civic-king
yes a "trick" isn't good, but it will not void the warrenty, like a new computer will.........and i like my sohc.....it is more of a challange, like i said, that rsx cannot compete in the sohc races....like my d17 can...they are complete diffrent engines and classes; you can't compare them!!!!
yes a "trick" isn't good, but it will not void the warrenty, like a new computer will.........and i like my sohc.....it is more of a challange, like i said, that rsx cannot compete in the sohc races....like my d17 can...they are complete diffrent engines and classes; you can't compare them!!!!
actually... you were the one comparing them, when you said you can do anything that a K20 can do with your D17.
PS... JET chip ECU's will not void your warrenty.
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Rep Power: 0 i do have a limitless amount of money......but you guys don't listen.....there are a set of races for single cam cars only.....this means no k20......no k20....no k20........no....no.....NO!!....NO!! and i was not comparing k20 with d17......i'm not stupid. i just wanted to know how this plug worked. i don't expect any gain from this plug, i will not buy a k20!! if i want a duel cam, i'd buy a bigger engine than a worthless 2 liter k engine, somthing made of iron......but for my application i need a strong single cam........idots.....
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i don't need the brute strength of the twin cam, i prefur the lightweight(about 85 lbs) single cam, to the bulky k20. when i am finnished, my D17 (bored D18) will kick any "lard-weight" ***** K20.....
i can do anything to my d17 that can be done to the K20 for cheaper, at the same time being lighter, quicker, and more "low profile."
i can do anything to my d17 that can be done to the K20 for cheaper, at the same time being lighter, quicker, and more "low profile."
D series are economy car engines. If you're going to bash the K series for being made of iron ...well our engines aren't made of aluminum either.
Quite frankly its a monstrously expensive endeavor to make our cars as fast as a K20 through NA modifications. Fuel line, bore, port and polish, pistons, intake manifold, ECU, cam shaft, header, etc. Then we have our stock mushy transmission as opposed to a 6 speed one on the RSX-S. By the time you spend 8k, a RSX-s would still be nicer because of the leather seats, better suspension.
If you prefer your SOHC, that's fine. But to say that SOHC is somehow better I find to be preposterous, at least between the D17 and the K20. K20 is simply a better engine for racing.
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No, infact you cant do anything to you D17 cheaper for a K20 due to the fact that many parts are not out for the D17 so they need to be special order stuff. Also, with the same mods you put into your D17, put them in a K20 and the K20 would win all day long. K20's can be pushed over 400hp with the proper tuning and combo of parts, you will never get there with a D17, regardless of how much money you dump into it.
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No, infact you cant do anything to you D17 cheaper for a K20 due to the fact that many parts are not out for the D17 so they need to be special order stuff. Also, with the same mods you put into your D17, put them in a K20 and the K20 would win all day long. K20's can be pushed over 400hp with the proper tuning and combo of parts, you will never get there with a D17, regardless of how much money you dump into it.
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btw. previous year civics were not any faster than this year. I raced an EX civic 2000 5spd. We ran head to head the ENTIRE 1/4 didnt gain at all (both excellent drivers). As soon as this year gets older it will become more powerful, its just a matter of time, 10 hp from bolt ons combined with 100hp from a turbo (we have seen those kind of results here). Makes for a very quick car... what do people expect from a 1.7liter designed for economy?
All I ever expected to run on a modified civic was a 14.5 and all of my dreams would be answered. And we already have 13 sec 7thgens Last edited by Diemos; Jul 28, 2003 at 02:07 PM.
Limitless amounts of money = buy a spare D17. Strip it down, have someone make you a BILLETT ALUM. solid block, not open. Have custome sleves made to bump it up to maybe 1.8 or 2.0. Custome pistons at whatever compression you would like. Custome rods. Custome fully blueprinted crank shaft. Custome Cam C.A.D designed for your application. Custome +20mm valves, springs, retainers. Custome made ALUM head, put on flo bench and fully researched. Now the hard part. Get a computer programer to build you a totally different ECU. Then of course, you need to deal with the fuel system. Bigger injectors, intake manifold ect. New drive axels to handel your horsepower, and a custome tranny to take the power also. All in all you will be spending close if no more than $100,000. Good luck with all that.. hope you have HELLA DEEP pockets. 
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Rep Power: 0 well when you say:
"i can do anything to my d17 that can be done to the K20 for cheaper, at the same time being lighter, quicker, and more "low profile." "
that leads me to believe you're comparing the two and think yours is has more potential... which is completely false.
and i do understand how dual cams cannot compete in single cams races, i'm not stupid. i'm just saying that you're wrong when you think your D17 has more potential than a K20. that'd be like saying the V6 mustang has more potential than the V8 because it's lighter weight...
"i can do anything to my d17 that can be done to the K20 for cheaper, at the same time being lighter, quicker, and more "low profile." "
that leads me to believe you're comparing the two and think yours is has more potential... which is completely false.
and i do understand how dual cams cannot compete in single cams races, i'm not stupid. i'm just saying that you're wrong when you think your D17 has more potential than a K20. that'd be like saying the V6 mustang has more potential than the V8 because it's lighter weight...
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In all honesty, I went to club RSX and saw the best times for their RSX's were 13.1.... if you head over to the WRX forum they are pulling in high 11s 11.7-14.2. Honda tuning is pointless, you are only going to go so fast with a Civic. So I dont know why people expected them to be such power houses. Ya man you can pull 200 HP out of a civic engine with forced induction, I dont know why people arent happy with that, you can run with Mustang GTs all day. I think 200HP for 200 bucks a month insurance is pretty good. I was looking at getting insured for a WRX progressive tried to quote me at 600 dollars a month...
btw. previous year civics were not any faster than this year. I raced an EX civic 2000 5spd. We ran head to head the ENTIRE 1/4 didnt gain at all (both excellent drivers). As soon as this year gets older it will become more powerful, its just a matter of time, 10 hp from bolt ons combined with 100hp from a turbo (we have seen those kind of results here). Makes for a very quick car... what do people expect from a 1.7liter designed for economy? All I ever expected to run on a modified civic was a 14.5 and all of my dreams would be answered. And we already have 13 sec 7thgens
In all honesty, I went to club RSX and saw the best times for their RSX's were 13.1.... if you head over to the WRX forum they are pulling in high 11s 11.7-14.2. Honda tuning is pointless, you are only going to go so fast with a Civic. So I dont know why people expected them to be such power houses. Ya man you can pull 200 HP out of a civic engine with forced induction, I dont know why people arent happy with that, you can run with Mustang GTs all day. I think 200HP for 200 bucks a month insurance is pretty good. I was looking at getting insured for a WRX progressive tried to quote me at 600 dollars a month...
btw. previous year civics were not any faster than this year. I raced an EX civic 2000 5spd. We ran head to head the ENTIRE 1/4 didnt gain at all (both excellent drivers). As soon as this year gets older it will become more powerful, its just a matter of time, 10 hp from bolt ons combined with 100hp from a turbo (we have seen those kind of results here). Makes for a very quick car... what do people expect from a 1.7liter designed for economy?
All I ever expected to run on a modified civic was a 14.5 and all of my dreams would be answered. And we already have 13 sec 7thgens Last edited by Validus; Jul 28, 2003 at 02:47 PM.
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Rep Power: 0 Honda engines dont respond well to modifications because they are built basically to the top point you can bring a 4 cyl n/a engine before you start dealing with custom work. Honda gets more power out of their 4 cyl than some other companys 6 cyl.
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Rep Power: 0 yeah, the k series is pretty trendy...
personally, i find supras too trendy..thats why i avoid buying one...
ps...hopefully no one is taking offense to anyones comments...im just having a grand ol' time here
personally, i find supras too trendy..thats why i avoid buying one...
ps...hopefully no one is taking offense to anyones comments...im just having a grand ol' time here
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Rep Power: 0 Spell angry right next time. D17 has its place. K20 has its place. It will just take some time for the D17 to move out and the K20 to move in. Ive seen K20 engines that can hit almost 700 hp. A full race blown engine. No D-series can touch that. Samething with the B-series. 700 hp drag motors.
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Rep Power: 0 D series motors do have potential if you have the money to put into them. I saw a 92 hatch in a amagazine with a D15 motor whichs runs very low 10's all motor, granted i'm sure its crazy custom but the fact is its still a SOHC.
