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This is the only street legal header that I know of so $240 for the ceramic doesn't sound so bad, i heard that the ceramic coated holds the heat in better and the stainless is better for weather and such, but I live in Ca so I don't have to worry about much. ALso can it be assembled with hand tools cause there are no DIYs for a header

 
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I've been hearing that the DC header has the same shape as stock. It won't help for performance, but for looks get ceramic. SS will make the engine bay hotter. If you have a toolkit, you should be okay, I think. You may also need a new gasket. Not worth it IMO.

 
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the header will help, about as much as a CAI which is quite limited with our engines. Header, CAI, and an exhaust gets the best results from our engine without having to go too crazy.

 
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I have an aem v2 intake and i was thinking the header next, is the only street legal thing or is there something else? which would you get ceramic or stainless steel?

 
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is this true?

 
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if you have a lower model civic a header would be an al right investment just don't expect a lot it will be in the lower end torque- if you have an ex don't waste the money the ex has a exhaust system more like a header any way-for coating options up to you a how you want it to look i like stainless as long as they stay chrome finish and not start to turn gold....

 
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yea i have a 2002 ex and i know that nothing big will come of simple bolt ons, but i dont have the tools or knowledge to install Nos or something like that

 
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well most nitrious kits are somewhat but zex make an alright kit to start with and install pretty eazy as for the knoledge to use it there are a lot of people that will help you on this web site they know what they are talking about and will help you if you need it

good luck...

 
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so what is a good investment to put into this car if not a header?

 
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Get an engine grounding kit (search for DIY ground kit), and a new K&N high flow air filter. With the new civics, mods won't make much of a difference. ->Unless you get a turbo. Most small mods you will do for looks only.

 
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just go the natural aspirated way. intake, header, exhaust, apexi fuel controler, ground wires, cam gear, pulley, iridium sparks, and get new internals if they ever make any for our cars.

 
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i was going to go N/a anyways, but i just wanted to get something that i could install myself, like a header I think i can do that, so finially which would you choose, and are there any other choices?

 
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ah.. a DC header wont do much.

$240 for a possible of 1+ hp on the high end doesn't sound too appealing.

course I went and got a OBX header (dc replica) for around $100.. but thats a lot better than $240.

now, people say it looks the same as stock.. and of course it does look similiar, how else is it going to fit or work?

but for those that really knows what the stock header look like, they will notice that the DC header has an actual longer primary, bigger flange where the header meets the block, and where the collector meets the lower downpipe. what else... smoother collector, less restriction...


anyway, all of that spells, more high end.. or at least, to my knowledge. heh.

probably moves the powercurve upward by 1-2 hp... and the gain is had by taking some away in the low end.

but is that possible 1-2 hp somewhere in the highend (and mind you, it can only be at peak, or a few 100 rpms ranges) worth $240?

up to you.

intake, header, exhaust, apexi VAFC/AFC, ground wires (rollseyes), cam gear, pullies (rollseyes again), and iridium plugs (rollseyes yet again) wont do much for our application.

first of all, the apexi air/fuel controller isn't really necessary for a car with just i/h/e, pullies, cam gear, plugs, *groin* and ground wires.

next, cam gear isn't a bolt-on power. its meant to be tuned.... again, I/H/E, pullies and whatever else mentioned above, does not warrant a cam gear.

ground wires does not produce horsepower, as far as I'm concern.

nor does iridium plugs, all they do is last longer, paying more than $15 bucks for a SET (4) of spark plugs is ridiculous.

and pullies? another product that as far as I'm concern, doesn't do anything on our civic.

sure, a good tunning shop may make use of the cam gear and fuel controller and possible dyno tune the increase in airflow and exhaust flow properly... and give you some more yield...

but at the total cost of probably over a grand (for all those parts mentioned and tunning)... for a guesstimate of 5-10 whp?

ah. no thanks.

might as well learn about nitrous, have someone install the sucker for you. runs you $700-800 and it will yield some results, if short lived.

or throw in $2-3 grand for a turbo setup.

unfortunately speed cost money...

and IMO, spending over $200 on any parts such as I/H/E on a 01-03 (exclude Si) Civic may be a bit too much.

but at the end, if it makes you happy.

go for it.

 
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i agree with you on all those points, but im not much into audio so i dont want a huge system with subs and all that, and bodykits with painting, installing are probaly out of my reach, turbo i wouldnt mind but i dont know much about cars so i wouldnt know what to do or what to look for, nitrous i wouldnt know how to setup or where to go to have it done, and its a little stupid, im trying to stay street legal as much as i can, so i have to go with only carb parts, i wouldnt mind doing full coilovers and new wheels, but right now is a little out of reach,

 
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DUDE if you have a local shop in your area they will have someone there who will know how to do it and what to install for nitrous. Hell i got my car 9 months agao and i read my *** off and it is easy as hell to install NOS. Me personall I want something that will go fast all the time so i am probubly going turbo but if you have a local tunner shop they will know how to install nitrous.

 
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that is just it there are no local tuner shops so i would have to install it myself, that is why i installed my v2 intake and i was thinking header next for i thought i could it myself and maybe exhaust by the end of the summer, but i just wasnt sure which one to get

 
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Im selling a DC Sports Stainless header if anyone is interested?

 
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which is better stainless steel or ceramic, why does it matter that the ceramic holds more heat?

 
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i have the ceramic dc sport header. i heard the ceramic holds the heat better than the stainless. meaning lower temp in the engine bay.

this is the only street legal header that i know of. i heard that the other headers may be bigger than the dc however more torque is lost. its like having a 3" exhaust pipe from the cat back. bigger isnt always better at least not for our cars.

 
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then why is the stainless so expensive, is it just the material?