1999 civic lx problems after certain fixes.
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Background story... So I took my car apart to fix a warped cylinder head. I took many things apart as you can guess but the biggest question is after taking the cylinder head off I had it machined at a shop they took off the pully gear + (assuming) rockers and holding plate cause when I got it back they asked me to retorque the top bolts, they were loose. Now my car isn't starting I haven't pushed it to start cause its 2 am I'll be waiting till day light. But saw some black smoke come out. 2 questions to all of you guys
1. Do I need to getting anything else done if they took off the rocker arms and holder plate?
2. I followed this (http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2013/09/07/11/58/pic-2796364554499986142.gif) diagram for putting the distributed back on is it correct for 6th gen 1.6 SOHC LX?
FYI this is my first car and still learning, I'm new to cars.
1. Do I need to getting anything else done if they took off the rocker arms and holder plate?
2. I followed this (http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2013/09/07/11/58/pic-2796364554499986142.gif) diagram for putting the distributed back on is it correct for 6th gen 1.6 SOHC LX?
FYI this is my first car and still learning, I'm new to cars.
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Re: 1999 civic lx problems after certain fixes.
cam-crank timing has to be perfect
valves have to be adjusted correctly
distributor can be lined up with the marks left by the bolts to get it started
plug wires on cap may or may not match that diagram exactly, but if they are not in the correct places it won't run
valves have to be adjusted correctly
distributor can be lined up with the marks left by the bolts to get it started
plug wires on cap may or may not match that diagram exactly, but if they are not in the correct places it won't run
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Alright thank you I guess I need to get my valves adjusted.
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You only said it didn't start but you don't give other handy observations or test results and there are a zillion possible reasons an engine doesn't run....so why doesn't it run?
Basics:
Compression, fuel, spark.
Compression test? Does it have proper compression on all 4 cylinders
Is it getting fuel into the cylinders
Is the spark getting to each cylinder at the correct time
Which is not perfect here?
Check the ground wires on the thermostat housing?
Basics:
Compression, fuel, spark.
Compression test? Does it have proper compression on all 4 cylinders
Is it getting fuel into the cylinders
Is the spark getting to each cylinder at the correct time
Which is not perfect here?
Check the ground wires on the thermostat housing?
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Actually I got it to start on the first turn over of course thanks to you I had to adjust valves and now it's idling at very high RPMs 1500 and bouncing between 1500 ~ 1600 OBD says
http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1509/?from=Torque
Correction on that, obd says IAC Valve malfunction
Which can be many things. Also sorry for the little info waiting for the compression kit
http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1509/?from=Torque
Correction on that, obd says IAC Valve malfunction
Which can be many things. Also sorry for the little info waiting for the compression kit
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If it's running on all 4 cylinders and not misfiring, I would not worry much about compression tests now.
Tight valves would have caused loss of compression.
P1509 is usually a circuit code, is the IAC unplugged? open circuit?
Tight valves would have caused loss of compression.
P1509 is usually a circuit code, is the IAC unplugged? open circuit?
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Actually I got it to start on the first turn over of course thanks to you I had to adjust valves and now it's idling at very high RPMs 1500 and bouncing between 1500 ~ 1600 OBD says
http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1509/?from=Torque
Which can be many things. Also sorry for the little info waiting for the compression kit
http://www.dtcsearch.com/P1509/?from=Torque
Which can be many things. Also sorry for the little info waiting for the compression kit
Remove and clean throttle body (replace TB gasket if needed)
After doing both of those disconnect your ground terminal from battery, turn headlights on and pump brake a few times to discharge residual. After that turn off all electronics off (a/c, stereo, headlights) and then reconnect battery, start car to re-learn ECU. Hopefully no more CEL.
Follow Ezone's suggestions before mine.
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Thank you for the quick replies and the help going to open it up in a bit and see
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Remove and clean the IACV (idle air control valve)
Remove and clean throttle body (replace TB gasket if needed)
After doing both of those disconnect your ground terminal from battery, turn headlights on and pump brake a few times to discharge residual. After that turn off all electronics off (a/c, stereo, headlights) and then reconnect battery, start car to re-learn ECU. Hopefully no more CEL.
Remove and clean throttle body (replace TB gasket if needed)
After doing both of those disconnect your ground terminal from battery, turn headlights on and pump brake a few times to discharge residual. After that turn off all electronics off (a/c, stereo, headlights) and then reconnect battery, start car to re-learn ECU. Hopefully no more CEL.
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Does sound like you most likely left IACV disconnected. However, wouldn't hurt to clean out both the TB and IACV if you haven't done it in the past.
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Sorry didn't mean to offend you but yes it was disconnected thank you for the help.
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https://www.dropbox.com/sc/e3m8ga1w7whkbwa/AACadimBsZOSw7UtWVBiA_cPa
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I can't tell anything at all from the video.
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I will clean that but I have another issue / question watch this video and do you hear that ticking sound? It idles a bit rough I thought that might be the age issue but it only gas 135k miles which is nothing for a 99. I've had that since I got this car about over an year ago can't figure out what it just got worse...
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Have you owned a 6th generation Civic before? If not.. they all seem to make a slight ticking sound. A very loud ticking sound would be cause for concern. Rough idle could be caused by a number of things: weak spark, vacuum leak, poor air/fuel ratio. When I replaced my head gasket recently I forgot to plug in the vacuum line that connects from the cruise control unit (in engine bay) to the lower/rear outlet on the intake manifold.. resulting in a slightly high, rough idle. After properly connecting it, it's idling normal.
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it only idles rough (vibrations) when ac turns on
It's been said it takes anywhere from 2-5 horsepower to run the compressor and that's quite a bit of power for an engine that's only running at idle speed and making maaaybe 20hp (example).
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The AC system places a load upon the engine when it turns the compressor on, so the engine has to work harder and you can feel a difference when it's on.
It's been said it takes anywhere from 2-5 horsepower to run the compressor and that's quite a bit of power for an engine that's only running at idle speed and making maaaybe 20hp (example).
It's been said it takes anywhere from 2-5 horsepower to run the compressor and that's quite a bit of power for an engine that's only running at idle speed and making maaaybe 20hp (example).
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