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Old Nov 11, 2011
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Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

I was having alot of problems with my drivers side window going so slow. tried the slicione spray and eventually needed to replace regulator and motor. Was good to go for about 2-3 weeks after replacing. Now as of yesterday it goes up sometimes all the way but will be off the rubber molding (Window goes on outer lip) If i hold the rubber molding back in the left hand corner where window meets door i can get it to get up okay but then need to push it up by hand because the rubber molding folds up and makes it get stuck.

I saw the rubber window run channel on majestic parts but not sure if thats exactly what I need because it looks like it runs down the left hand side of door/window and then into the door. here's some pictures if they help.

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In this picture, you can see that molding is not straight up. it is folded.




In this picture, you can see that molding is not straight up. it is folded.






In this last picture, you can see how it folds upwards
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

To me it looks like from this diagram that i would need a few things. Does number 6/11 go all the way down into the door?

What is 4/9? Sash?

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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

Yes and yes (sash)
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

bump. still having the same issue and now new regulator/motor broke already!
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

Did you ever replace the run channel seal?

6th covers a lot of different cars.
Post your vehicle info in the post and in your profile!

Google-fu:
Honda service bulletin 97-021 (for a 2 door car)
or 98-082 for a 4 door.
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

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Did you ever replace the run channel seal?

6th covers a lot of different cars.
Post your vehicle info in the post and in your profile!

Google-fu:
Honda service bulletin 97-021 (for a 2 door car)
or 98-082 for a 4 door.
I have a 2000 Honda Civic EX 4 door sedan

The pictures I have posted on this thread, is that the run channel seal number 6 and 9 in the above diagram?



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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...NT+DOOR+WINDOW



11 is the glass run channel seal (the rubber seal) LF door (drivers door).
(The main part you needed, apparently, not including the damaged regulator or any other damaged parts.)

9 and 10 are the steel tracks that the seal fits into down inside the door. They are steel, no rubber at all. Replace only if damaged.

Just gonna SWAG here, your seal looks all bunched up like the glass has been trying to bring it up out of the door and wad it up.
Like the glass has been dragging in the seal real, real bad.
Looks like it needed lubed for long time.
Lubing the seals with spray silicone regularly, helps avoid this.
You have to do the lube long before it gets slow and draggy though.

Most of these that I see have the glass jumped out of the seal groove down inside the door, then when you raise it it tries to go between the rubber and the steel until it jams at the mirror area. Glass pitches forward as it binds by the mirror area. Spreads the track out if someone keeps jamming it, and can screw up the regulator.
Doing the adjustments outlined in the appropriate bulletin helps with this one, after replacing whatever parts got damaged.


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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

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http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...NT+DOOR+WINDOW



11 is the glass run channel seal (the rubber seal) LF door (drivers door).
(The main part you needed, apparently, not including the damaged regulator or any other damaged parts.)

9 and 10 are the steel tracks that the seal fits into down inside the door. They are steel, no rubber at all. Replace only if damaged.

Just gonna SWAG here, your seal looks all bunched up like the glass has been trying to bring it up out of the door and wad it up.
Like the glass has been dragging in the seal real, real bad.
Looks like it needed lubed for long time.
Lubing the seals with spray silicone regularly, helps avoid this.
You have to do the lube long before it gets slow and draggy though.

Most of these that I see have the glass jumped out of the seal groove down inside the door, then when you raise it it tries to go between the rubber and the steel until it jams at the mirror area. Glass pitches forward as it binds by the mirror area. Spreads the track out if someone keeps jamming it, and can screw up the regulator.
Doing the adjustments outlined in the appropriate bulletin helps with this one, after replacing whatever parts got damaged.


HTH
When I put the new regulator in Sept 2011 I lubed everything really well, from the start it seemed to be dragging though a bit when you first start bringing it up then once it got past the low part, it went nice and smooth up to the top.

I ordered the new regulator, when I install it, I'll take a better look at the steel and the rubber sash. I really don't want to replace the rubber weatherstripping at all but if i need to then it is what it is.

I'll probably try to get away with just the regulator/motor set up again. lube all the tracks really well with spray silicone and see what happens. The window weatherstripping looks fine other then the part I showed you in the picture above.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks,
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

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Did you ever replace the run channel seal?

Google-fu:
... 98-082 for a 4 door.
Originally Posted by nickrolando
from the start it seemed to be dragging



Let me know what you think.
I think you didn't read the service bulletin, and you didn't understand WHY I asked the question:
Did you ever replace the run channel seal?
Do I need to spell it out?
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

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I think you didn't read the service bulletin, and you didn't understand WHY I asked the questiono I need to spell it out?
I did read over the service bulletin.

I guess i Should go ahead and get the new replacement channel run then..
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

Should save you from doing a **THIRD** regulator too soon.

But it can't fix the broken one you have now.

HTH
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

Motor/Regulator is getting extremely slow again and I really dont want to have to get a 3rd one already so I'm going to bite the bullet and pray that getting the new glass run channel will fix my issue. Can i get this one?






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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

Bump. please let me know if this is good for my car and if this should fix my window problems!

Thanks!
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

go oem with parts like this. I bought a hatchback that has an aftermarket driver's side door and glass and regulator. Nothing but issues. Still have the aftermarket door but used OEM regulator motor and glass and have little to no issues. Sometimes it gets caught in the stripping along the top of the door panel so I ripped it out and now no issues at all.

Go with OEM.
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

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go oem with parts like this. I bought a hatchback that has an aftermarket driver's side door and glass and regulator. Nothing but issues. Still have the aftermarket door but used OEM regulator motor and glass and have little to no issues. Sometimes it gets caught in the stripping along the top of the door panel so I ripped it out and now no issues at all.

Go with OEM.
I really dont have the money at the moment, that's why I was going to go with the aftermarket. LMK
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

have you checked hondaautomotiveparts.com, southbayhonda and others?

well go with the aftermarket then...its not us that have to shell out the money should your aftermarket parts cause any problems.....
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

or dislocate the glass from the bottom track and move the window up and down with ur hands and see where it causing the issue
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

Originally Posted by Running Riot
have you checked hondaautomotiveparts.com, southbayhonda and others?

well go with the aftermarket then...its not us that have to shell out the money should your aftermarket parts cause any problems.....
The OEM one is $44 dollars from the cheapest online.
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

I dont mind spending the $50 on the seal for the front window. I just dont want to get it and then somehow realize that I need something else. I've already replaced the regular/motor assembly twice within the last 8 months. It is really a pain in the ***. What else could it even be if its not the weatherstripping?
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Re: Driver Side Window issue (replaced regulator and motor)

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I dont mind spending the $50 on the seal for the front window. I just dont want to get it and then somehow realize that I need something else. I've already replaced the regular/motor assembly twice within the last 8 months. It is really a pain in the ***. What else could it even be if its not the weatherstripping?
Fix it yet?
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