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So I'm a bit torn between what sub to get. I'm going for just 1 12" sub (powered by a zapco ag360), which would you
recommend? I see people raving about the eclipse, so I'm just curious as to which one people would choose.

I've heard the kicker and liked how it sounded, haven't heard the eclipse though. I listen to a lot of techno, dance and house.

and with the eclipse, is there much of a difference between the 88120.4 and the 88120dvc?

 
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Edy... How much power does you amp put out.. the Eclipse is the better choice if you have alot of power for it 500Wrms+.. otherwise I'd grab up the L7..

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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Mohawk, it puts out 360watts RMS, so I guess that answers the question as to which one to get.
It's a 4 channel amp, I was originally going to use it for the front and rear but then decided not to put any speakers in the rear,
so I used a different amp.

180w x 2 bridged @ 4 ohms

 
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So then you'll need to get a Dual 4ohm L7..why not get an L5..the L5 is last years L7 with a stamped steel basket..(which means no difference except price and appearance)..that would be a better choice with that amount of power..

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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thanks for the quick response mohawk!

just out of curiousity, is the l5 always the previous years' 17?

I was wondering if maybe I should just sell the amp (since it's 4 ch) and get a good 2 ch. amp.
What would you recommend for powering the eclipse 88120? and the L7?

thanks again!

Edy

 
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well for $309 shipped can't beat an MTX6500D. 850+Wrms.. seeing as L7's only xame into being 2 years ago.. this is the first year the L5 exists..

If you get the MTX and a DVC Eclipse alum, put it in 1.22 cu.ft enclosure(after subwoofer dispacement) and you'll be happier than a big in sheit..[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] The eclipse alums are my alltime favourite sub..But they are power hungry. SPL wise with 1 selaed in 1.22 cubes with 800+Wrms..you should be hittin low 130's..(120db's is where your eardrums start tickling(hearing damage)) 130 is where your pants and armhair start vibrating on the right notes..

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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I think I'll do that =) go for the 88120.4 or the dvc?

thanks man, you're a great help!

 
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the DVC so that you can get a 2ohm load to your amp [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].

Cheers
Mohawk

Note: With a single Eclipse 88120.4 and a lighting audio S2.500 amp (700Wrms) from the trunk of a 1993 Hyundai Sonata, No sound deadening I was hitting a 134.3.... With sound deadening in our civics that number should improve a about 1db or so..(theoretically)

 
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Get the L7!!!!!!!

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<< Get the L7!!!!!!!

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Why?.. have you heard Eclipse alums [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. L5's??..

 
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Heard the Eclipses'.. not the L5's..........

 
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Heard last years L7's?.. then you heard L5's [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. only diff is a stamped steel basket which makes no difference perfomarmance wise.. just appearance

 
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I have 2 L7's



Not enough power though pushin em.......

Rockford Punch 500.2

The L7's are wired up for a 2ohm load

 
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New L7's or the older Black coned models.. cause those are the new L5's =the cast alum basket [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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I have 2 of THE NEW L7's.... (the square ones)

They loud...... daddy likes

 
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Since you listen to techno you will want tighter bass and better sq. Go with the eclipse they are by far better sq woofers than the l7 and still get plenty loud

 
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I ordered up the eclipse... will probably have it by end of week =) Now to get the amp... where'd you
see the amp for $305 shipped, mohawk? ebay? I saw one earlier for $275 witih S&H, should of jumped
on it! but I wanted to see how much cheaper I could get it, heh.

Hefe: does your cone look black or silver? black = last year's model which = l5

Now I need to go read up on making a subwoofer box!

 
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edy

here ya go.. $309 Shipped MTX6500D

the MTX81000D is $399 shipped, but then you'd need two single 4 ohm voice coil subs..

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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<< I ordered up the eclipse... will probably have it by end of week =) Now to get the amp... where'd you
see the amp for $305 shipped, mohawk? ebay? I saw one earlier for $275 witih S&H, should of jumped
on it! but I wanted to see how much cheaper I could get it, heh.

Hefe: does your cone look black or silver? black = last year's model which = l5

Now I need to go read up on making a subwoofer box! >>




They are black and they say L7

 
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Okay..the Black coned L7's (last years model) and the NEW l5's are one and the same with a different basket..

 
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<< Okay..the Black coned L7's (last years model) and the NEW l5's are one and the same with a different basket.. >>



How do you figure that.........??

(P.S.- Mohawk.... damn it man you're always on here)

 
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Because the 2002 L7's have a nickel plated cone, larger magnets and the same cast alum basket..

The L5's use the same motor structure and cone as the previous model L7's 2000-2001..but instead of using the cast alum basket they use a less expensive stamped steel basket to bring the price down and still offer the same quality sub, while making improvements in the motor structure and cone design on the new L7's [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]