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Hey i need some help choosing which rear speakers to go with.

I have CDT CL-61a components up front powered by an infinity reference series amp. right now i have some RF 6x9's in the rear but they are going out. I know a lot of you don't like rear fill - some even run no speakers in the back. but i need my rear sound, it fills the sound out. just sounds better to me. I don't have the 6x9s amped, but i think i want to amp what ever i get to replace them. can anybody tell me why i should or shouldn't amp them??

what speaker would you guy recommend to go with the comps and amp I already have. im not sure if i should go with 6x9s or 6.5s. comments, suggestions, advice is great.

BTW - the mounting depth shouldn't be an issue because i have trunk shocks.

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if you dont mind widening the hole, some tangband 8's would be sweet.

if you do mind cutting metal, Id suggest tangband 6x9's or 6.5's, either should give you ambient support.

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I roll pioneer 6X9's 120 max! no amp! my front & rears are hooked up to my deck!

1 sub powered by one amp.

Answer: IMO just hook up some decent 6X9's to your aftermarket deck

 
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8s would be sweet...but thats probably a lil more work than i want to do.

i know they'll both give me sound, lol...but what makes the 6x9 different than 6.5s?? and that brand, Tangband, thats a pretty good brand? ive never heard of them. i want the best possible sound for as little as possible! lol i know thats pretty impossible. my budget is around $150 - $200.

^im tired of having "decent" stuff! lol i want to be able to turn up my music loud and get lost in how good and clean it sounds haha

 
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Get The Ones That Go Boom

 
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lol thanks for the help!

 
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personally I think don't amp the back ones becuase you hear the front ones more than the rear. And since the front is amped and components you won't really hear the rear, IMO.

Oh yeah just buy some good 6x9s in the back and you should be good, I have Polk db690 and love them.

 
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I agree!

 
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see i think im confused on this. everybody always says dont amp the rears or dont even run rear speakers. like you said, the fronts are amped so you wont really hear the rear. my thinking is that the sound should be equally loud front and rear. when you put surround sound in a house, you have the sound comming from all directions, right? and you are surrounded by sound. same thing at a movie theater. speakers line the walls and are in front and back. i think it'd sound better if the front and rear were both amped and both equally loud creating a whole wall of sound coming from front and rear.

i don't get when people say rear speakers are useless. when i fade my sound all the way to the front, or even put bias toward the front, it sounds too one dimensional. it sounds like all the highs are in front and bass is in the back. i like to feel like im "inside" the music. like its coming from all around me

someone school me if im wrong, please!

 
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I always though that in surround sound the front speakers still were louder...ohwell.

You do need the rear speakers becuase like you said it sounds wierd, but they aren't as needed as the fronts ones are. Usually the rear creates most of the bass and the fronts most everything else. And if you ever decide you want a sub you would barely hear the rear at all over the sub.

Like I said before just get some nice 6X9s and you'll be able to hear a difference, and you might save a couple hundred not buying another amp (after all that is everything to me).

 
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i have a sub!

i didn't wanna buy another amp, i want to power both the front comps and the rear (6x9 or 6.5) with the same infinity amp. you're right though, the sub drowns out the rear 6x9s right now..which is why i wanna amp whatever i replace them with!

so so far ive got suggestions for tangband and polk db690s. anybody else??

 
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the differences between the tang 6x9 and 6.5 are in the t/s parameters.

the 6x9 was meant to be an uppermidbass speaker, the 6.5 was meant to be a mini subwoofer.

so you can expect the 6x9 to play much higher than the 6.5, but not play as low.

I would say if you wanted a more "spacey" sounding stereo, the 6x9 would be the way to go. If you wanted a more "ambient" kickdrum/bass performance, the 6.5 would be the way to go.

both are great choices, and would fall under the "good" category when someone tells you to just go out and buy a "good" pair of speakers. and both come in WAY WAY under your budget.

 
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True surround sound requires 6 speakers to utilize the effects. A front, center channel speaker that plays sounds, such as vocals/dialogue, and parts of the soundtrack. Then there are two speakers, placed at the front left and right. These carry the majority of the soundtrack, and some dialogue when it is needed to offset where the vocals are coming from. There is also another set directly at the sides of the audience, slightly above the listening audience. These are used to produce ambient sounds. The last speaker is a subwoofer, placed either front, center and low, or at the rear, center and low. This is used to produce LFE tones, ie sub bass tones. True surround sound can't be acheived in a vehicle without some serious modification to the interior. Thus, we have to rely on simulated surround sound with stock location speakers. This makes use of a virtual surround sound algorithm. It, generally, utelizes two speakers and a sub. This is accomplished by psycho-acoustics in order to emulate true surround formats. The result, or intended result, is better ambiance and a better soundstage. This doesn't closely resemble true surround sound, but it's as close as we can get in a vehicle without dramatically altering it.

I don't advocate the use of rear fill in civics for a few purposes. The main reason is because of amplification of rear speakers, due to their stock location, makes the music appear as if it comes from behind the listener. They overpower the fronts, again, due to the location fo the rear being up high, and reflecting off of the glass directly into the listening area, versus the fronts (midbass) being located low and at the driver's feet, played into an area that allows sound to be absorbed (carpet). The tweeters will blare at you up front, sure, because they're up high, but the lows lose something being in their stock location and firing directly into the footwells. One way to overcome the location problem, and keep rear fill, is to utilize kick panels and fire the mids up towards the center dash location. This will balance the stage more than their stock locations. Aiming, among other things, is vital in this application. They have to be correctly aimed, and staged, otherwise the soundstage will actually worsen over the stock location. Another problem with rear fill, besides the obvious location problem, is that is is intended for the rear seat passengers more than the front seat passengers. This provdes the rear seat passengers will more ambient sound environments, while detracting from the front seat listening experiance. If you're going to run rear fill, and don't plan on installing kicks, I'd have to recomend either going with a low power set of rear fill, stock, or using a dedicated midbass to lessen the gap between the sub and the mids up front. This is accomplished by the method rabbit recommended. While a pair of 8's would sound good up there, accomodating them might become a large challenge. Adire also offers a 6.8 inch speaker. This is their Extremis 6.8 inch midwoofer. It is listed in the home audio selection, but it also works in car audio applications. They retail for about $100 bucks per midwoofer, last time I checked. They require about 100 watts, and go to around 275-300, if I remember correctly. I've used them in a few applications and the results were phenominal. They were designed to beat (performance wise) speakers like Scanspeak's 8545, Seas Excel, etc. You can find them at their site, www.adireaudio.com