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Anyone know where to buy a higher output alternator online?

 
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same place I got mine..only one's current;y available for our cars..

AmpManAudio

It's an Ohio Generator 160amp hot rated alternator. comes with a 1 year warranty easy to install.. $670 shipped is what I paid.

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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whas the output on the stock alternator

 
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70 amps

 
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mohawkboom: That's a load of cash. Do you think it's possible to use an alternator from a different car with a higher amperage rating? Maybe a used one, or from a junkyard and DIY fit it? Also, how do you like that alternator? Do you need to install anything else for it to work? For example, does the battery suffer in any way because of this? If there is excess power where does it go? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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Contact this guy... Dominick Iraggi dominick@tds.net

This is what he quoted me on a small case 180 amp alternator...

Small case is 180 amps hot and little over 200 cold

I can make any alternator adjustable

180 amp alternator 220.00
adjustable regulator 150.00
core charge which is returned when you send your alternator back to us 50.00
optional lifetime warranty 100.00
COD charge if applicable 10.00

Larger models are available, 200 - 265 amp. He has done a lot of work for sound-off competitors.

 
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More from another source...

Dear Don;

We have three outputs that will fit your vehicle, first is the
20-250-43G-3G ($392.00) rated @ 150Amps Hot (185 Amps Cold), then the
20-275-43G-3G ($454.00) rated @ 175Amps Hot (210 Amps Cold) and last is the
20-300-43G-3G ($534.00) rated @ 200Amps Hot (240Amps Cold). All three
require an adapter bracket ($49.95) and an adapter plug ($35.00) for the
install. Shipping costs will be about $28.00 for USA ground. If you have
more questions just call our tech support @(760) 956-7596 or email us. If
you want to place an order, call 888MECHMAN (632-4626) or email us.

Regards

Dennis Moore

 
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Yeah I'm familiar with the Dominick dude.. But his alternators are rewinds.. the inherant problem with 80% of all rewind jobs is that the alt will not even begin to produce any power untill about 1500RPMS.. ..

You can use a Delco/Remy 150 amp medium case alternator in our cars.. but alas same problem. They don't produce power untill the alt really starts spinning.

An Overdrive pulley will help but it doesn not perform miracles.. If you do mostly highway driving go for a rewind...but if you do alot of Stop ang Go driving... You'll need a new high output alternator....I did alot of research into this. I have a semi-famous alternator shop 15 minutes from my house..could have gotten them to rewind mine.. However the stock case/fan cannot provide nearly enough cooling power for the alt to work reliably. Whereas an Ohio Generator alt is new, A Big bigger..have a huge intergral fan, Adjustable regulator(12-18volts) and has a 1 Year Guarantee...

I'm not saying the cheaper alts from Dominick aren't good. They probably are..I haven't seen or used one yet. But they are rewinds..

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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Just happened to be browsing and figured I would set the record straight.





<< Yeah I'm familiar with the Dominick dude.. But his alternators are rewinds.. >>




What is you definition of a "rewind" How do you know my alts are "rewinds"?




<< the inherant problem with 80% of all rewind jobs is that the alt will not even begin to produce any power untill about 1500RPMS.. .. >>




I guess that means that mine are the other 20% of alts. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] It greatly depends on the combination of parts used. I have done tons of R&D to come with our designs.



<< You can use a Delco/Remy 150 amp medium case alternator in our cars.. but alas same problem. They don't produce power untill the alt really starts spinning. >>




Where do you get this info from? Are you talking about a stock alternator?



<< An Overdrive pulley will help but it doesn not perform miracles.. If you do mostly highway driving go for a rewind...but if you do alot of Stop ang Go driving... You'll need a new high output alternator.... >>



Please explain the difference between a new highoutput alt and a rewound one.



<< I did alot of research into this. I have a semi-famous alternator shop 15 minutes from my house..could have gotten them to rewind mine.. >>



Your right, most rebuilders dont specialize in h/o units so they dont work very good when they try. I do.



<< However the stock case/fan cannot provide nearly enough cooling power for the alt to work reliably. Whereas an Ohio Generator alt is new, A Big bigger..have a huge intergral fan, Adjustable regulator(12-18volts) and has a 1 Year Guarantee... >>





<< I'm not saying the cheaper alts from Dominick aren't good. They probably are..I haven't seen or used one yet. But they are rewinds.. >>



Again, how do you know anything about my alternators and do you know the difference between a new H/O alt and a rewound one?

Didnt mean to start anything but just wanted to get things straight.

Dominick Iraggi
TRAFFIC JAMS CAR AUDIO.

 
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great stuff on this thread will deffinetly look into it

 
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Hi Dominick,

The Local Shop. Montreal Alternator specializes in low resistance alternators for racing..and High output Marine alternators...

I'm making the pretty safe assumption that your alternators are rewinds at that price simply because of the cost of New Alternators/frames.

The 150 Delco/Remy Alternators can work with alot of bracket work as Our wonderful 7th gen civics have engines that spin in the same direction as Other cars unlike the previous generation civics...

I Also stated clearly that I'm not familiar with nor have experiance with yuor alternators and sai they might not be like 80% of all rewind jobs... (80% or so of high output alts on the road today are poorly done by local shops as you've said..most local shops are shotty)..

Any Chance you have a pic or 3 of your Alts for the 2k1civics?... I'e seen your alternators for older accords.. the 200amp models.. Nice..But that's a fairly large case alt which our little civics don't really have room for...

No Flaming.. Just Discussing

 
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All parts I use are brand new, right down to the nuts and bolts.
The reason I sell them for less is due to the lack of overhead here. I hand build and test all alts myself. I also do all the R&D on the high amp units. So instead of taking all the money, I pass it along to you.

What alts are you talking about that you guys use on your honda's? ("150 Delco/Remy" I would be glad to design a model for us to add to the line of H/O's.

What I have been doing is when I have a Honda in the shop for an install, I design and document all parts for a kit. I then have that "kit" for sale to other customers. Unfortunatly I only have the 1999 accord v6, It is a large case though. So I can do any amperage you may need for cars that have the same motor. I am sure that it will fit other years and makes of cars that have the same motor.

I will scan some pics when I get the chance.

Good to talk to you guys.

Dominick Iraggi

 
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Hey Dominick,

The Delco?Remy alt I'm referring to is the stocl 150 Amp alternator that comes in most Chevy Silverado's/GMC Cheyenne pick-ups.. It's not a large frame alt but a medium fram 150 amp alternator which has a vented case and a nice Beefy fan. But they don't begin producing real power untill well over 2000Rpms so they aren't exactly IDeal... My Ihio Generator alt Produced over 140 amps at 1200Rpms and maintained over 13.9volts with my system canked and all accessories on....However I paid extra for an adjustable regulator (only rated for 150amps) which is adjustable between 12-16 volts. I have it set at about 15 volts to avoid any electrical problems...

Where are you located.. Maybe you can Find a gunnea pig from this forum.. give him a discount for being a test dummie then have a kit ready for the other's who need one. I'm sure you'll get 4-6 Orders pretty quick from this site.

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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why not get your current alternator rebuilt with different bushings/brushings (?) for more amps?

 
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Case is too small.. no Fan... Internal regulator.. no readily available parts for the rebuild yet... Generally unreliable..[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. There's more reasons..but those should say more than enough

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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<< Hey Dominick,

The Delco?Remy alt I'm referring to is the stocl 150 Amp alternator that comes in most Chevy Silverado's/GMC Cheyenne pick-ups.. It's not a large frame alt but a medium fram 150 amp alternator which has a vented case and a nice Beefy fan.


I think your talking about the CS-130(D) which is 105 amp. Delco does not make a 150 amp alt for anything. The closest is a large case 140 amp. Most of these have an internal fan, actually 2 internal fans.


But they don't begin producing real power untill well over 2000Rpms so they aren't exactly IDeal... My Ihio Generator alt Produced over 140 amps at 1200Rpms and maintained over 13.9volts with my system canked and all accessories on....However I paid extra for an adjustable regulator (only rated for 150amps) which is adjustable between 12-16 volts. I have it set at about 15 volts to avoid any electrical problems...


Which alt do you have from Ohio?


Where are you located.. Maybe you can Find a gunnea pig from this forum.. give him a discount for being a test dummie then have a kit ready for the other's who need one. I'm sure you'll get 4-6 Orders pretty quick from

I am in TN. I would be glad to give a good price to the first alt install for a car of its kind. Let me know if anyone close in interested.


this site.

Cheers
Mohawk >>

 
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Ohio Generator Model # 14801-160 with the regulator modified with with a resistor inline with the voltage sensor (i think) to put out a stead 15 volts...(I'm certified mech.. but I haven't rebuilt alts so my knowledge of the parts isn't as good as yours ) [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

The Gm Delco Remy alternators are available in 150amp in a medium case.. My Brother and my cousin both have GMC Cheyenne pickups with tow package that have 150amp medium case alternators with one external fan and one internal fan that looks more like a cross-drilled brake rotor.

EMail me at dmtp@mailcity.com so I can learn a bit more about alts and such.. If your alts are up to par with OHIO's and you have better pricing I can get you a fair bit of business from the Montreal area.

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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What years of Silverado trucks have those alts? Will they fit in Civics without any modifications? I'm just wondering. I'm wanting to get two 12" Solobaric L7's with a Fosgate bd500.1 amp. Will the stock alt power that amp okay? I have a 105 amp in my Sunbird, and my Clarion ProAudio APA-1200 with two 12" Punch XLCs dims my headlights...and I have a 1/2 farad cap too!!

 
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neon.. I beleive 87-94.. It's the same alt as your 105 amp alt. Just different internals. ..As for fitting in the civic.. it's not exactly an easy task.. but it can be done.

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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I have 2-2x75 watt amps and 2 12" Kappa Perfects... i know i am not pushing the subs to their capacity but my headlights dim a little when the bass hits. I also have a RF .5 farad cap.

what do i need to do to aleviate this dimming problem. in about a year i'll prolly get a new amp that can push both subs together. that would jsut bee an even bigger drain on my elec system and i may move teh amps i have now to the components and the 6.5"s in the rear.

what kinda amp would I need and how much is it. I don't want the headlights to di and I would like to add pulleys but i haven't so far because i've heard that if you have a system it could cause some dimming. (that would be twice the dimming in my case and that's not good)

what do you two alt experts think? I will want an alt that will meet my future needs but I definately don't want overkill... I don't want to spend way more than i need to.

 
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If you're adding pulleys you can't safely run more than 300Wrms....For the 2 infinity Pefects.. are they DVC 4ohm?.. or SVC 4ohm.. basically you'll just a want a 600 watt class D amp for the pair. Don't worry about minor dimming. Upgrade all your wiring to 4 guage.. upgrade your battery to chassis ground to 4 guage. That'll do it.

Cheers
Mohawk

 
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the subs are dvcs... wiring from battery to cap to distribution block is 4 guage and the grounding from the cap is 4 guage also... not sure about the battery to chasis... I'll check on my lunch break... i'll also order the lightning audio cap like you said... anythign else? should i get a better battery? what kind do you reccommend.

 
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After that you should be "OK' without a new battery...the SVT battery that fits our cars has a higher internal resistance so it's more of a load to charge it for your alternator anyhow

 
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I didnt know that...Thanks

 
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You can't go wrong w/ an Ohio Generator!

 
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Hey, I live in Louisville, KY, and need a HO alt. I don't mind being a test dummy, it would help both of us, but i might still be a little far. Let me know what ya think, maybe we can get together sometime to make one up? Email me at MikeKY7@aol if it's a possibility.

 
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why does everyone think they need a HO alternator? really the only reason you need to is to fix severe problems with lights dimming (never had a problem with it, but seems to be an extreme cost to fix such a small problem) or if your gonna SPL compete, and need the massive amounts of current draw.

of course with competition, you ALWAYS end up running on batterieds anyways, i dont really see teh point why aftermarket alternators are so high in demand for 2k1 civic....

furthermore, as far as the electrical system handling curernt draw, playing music NEVER draws full current from teh amp, so really you can have several thousand killowatts RMS power and play music all day while driving, and not have a problem......

In fact, the only person I knew who did have a problem was using an earthquake D2 in a 1 ohm load on a pair of audiomobile MASS 12's, and he was not playing music. burped it for the first time, his alternator fried. this will not be a problem for any person who runs anything but an SPL competition system.....

so why the extreem interest?

 
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An alternator upgrade is required in some divisions of USACI.

 
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learn something new everyday, they only got db drag down here.

WHY is it required? and is EVERYONE here trying to get into that clas of usac?

 
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I don't really think anyone here besides me is worried about USACI. Got some competitors out there?

Anyway, in USACI an upgraded charging system will get you maximum points.