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I've looked at the DIY about installing front speakers cept that DIY was for models that had power windows...problem is i don't have power windows and when i went to try it i got stuck where the window crank goes through the door panel
anybody know how to get past this problem?
any help would be much appreciated
thanks
-brian

 
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There should be a retainer clip shaped similar to a U or an Ohm symbol behind the crank handle on the shaft. If you push in on the panel around the crank you should be able to see it. Find a way to grab the clip and remove it from the shaft and the crank handle will slide right off.

 
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there's a little "C" clip in between the crank and the plastic spacer on the door, it's not fun to get off, they have tools for it at napa, but it pushes through...lemme see if i can find a pic for ya

 
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needle nose pliers, man

 
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i used a right angle for wood working hehe

 
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crowshay(sp) hooks..t he small mettle ones work great

 
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look at the door locks DIY. that shows you what everyone here is talking about.

 
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What I did since I didn't have the pick or pliers was the sock method when I first did my doors with speakers. Get a sock that you don't need because you won't be wearing it ever again. Then get the sock under the ring from underneath and then just see-saw it back and forth until you feel it catch. When it pops out be sure you are not near any drains or near any place where it will get lost easily. When your not rich and don't have the tools you have to learn to improvise.

 
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I used one of my girl's hair pin things. Bent it all up and worked that bastard loose.

 
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thanks you guys have been a great help
i actually used a paper cilp that i bent into a hook and grabbed an end of it
had a hell of a time putting it back in..i'm still not sure what i did but i ran out of time so i only managed to get the driver side speakers in
thanks for all your help once again.

 
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awww what a noob, I was once there, but I've been founf for quite a while. LOL

 
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you clip it on the crank and then push the crank on, it's easy to put back on

 
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He's right but if you need any more help, feel free to ask. Did your panel secure all the way down?

 
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they also make a tool 4 this...

 
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Do you have a panel popper?