Best all around sub?
04-24-2005
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you guys are funny, it sounds like all of you are possesed by jl audio demons or something.
on another note i use to sell jl audio and there defective rate was pretty high compared to the other brands we carried(alpine, kicker, diamond, and others)
but you can make any woofer sound good if you build a well designed encloser.
its 90% installer 10% product, cause how often do you see comp being won with w7's? im not sure i have. remember he wants to be loud, and for that i would get a kicker solo x 18 in a ported box for spl and a few amps to push it well.
the more cone area will make it louder, but it will just distort more.
also i like mmats jaggaurnats, those are nice and loud.
on another note i use to sell jl audio and there defective rate was pretty high compared to the other brands we carried(alpine, kicker, diamond, and others)
but you can make any woofer sound good if you build a well designed encloser.
its 90% installer 10% product, cause how often do you see comp being won with w7's? im not sure i have. remember he wants to be loud, and for that i would get a kicker solo x 18 in a ported box for spl and a few amps to push it well.
the more cone area will make it louder, but it will just distort more.
also i like mmats jaggaurnats, those are nice and loud.
04-24-2005
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jl still has a high defective rate and customers still like to bend over and take their prices. as for me bein on crack i might be who knows but then again why do u guys like jl cause u seen it in a DUB magazine give me a break. i had one in here running off a memphis mojo (16-2000d) the sub was nice but no where near what my previous setups could do. jl by far is not the greatest subs ever.
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1 JLW7 is all you need..but if you want to save money. Alpine Type R is awsome..a friend of mine has 1 in his DC5..and thats more than enough pound for me..
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Originally Posted by BERGER
i'm going with one adire brahma 12 in my civic.. the adire's pound like crazy..
04-24-2005
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Rep Power: 261 the guy i'm buying it from is a dealer for them so... but i'm not sure how much they are priced on the net... he said around 525 after shipping and stuff to him.. seems a little high to me but i don;t know that much about audio so..
04-25-2005
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Originally Posted by fathom7411
jl still has a high defective rate and customers still like to bend over and take their prices. as for me bein on crack i might be who knows but then again why do u guys like jl cause u seen it in a DUB magazine give me a break. i had one in here running off a memphis mojo (16-2000d) the sub was nice but no where near what my previous setups could do. jl by far is not the greatest subs ever.
04-25-2005
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Rep Power: 0 I LOVE my G&S Designs subs. They hit very very low, pretty damn high, have AWESOME response to all types of bass, and are extremely clear. Clearer than anything else Ive ever used. But this is jmo, since nobody has ever used of heard of these, they'll never use them. hehe, so Im original here. My car sounds like one of those trucks with extremely clear loud bass
Ive used Cerwin Vega, MTX (these sounded very nice, 3 in a plexi box), JBL (crap), audiobahn, and a couple others.
Ive used Cerwin Vega, MTX (these sounded very nice, 3 in a plexi box), JBL (crap), audiobahn, and a couple others.
04-25-2005
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Rep Power: 272 i just got an Atlas 12" from ascendant audio. (www.ascendantaudio.com) and this thing is freaking sweet. it plays those low low low tones that you love to hear and its really clear. lemme tell you, it pounds too!! check it out. the only thing i don't like about it is the look of it. its just all black with no logo. haha but who the hell cares? it sounds soo freaking tight. i really recommend ascendant audio. the atlas is the least expensive of their line up and im amazed by it - so im sure if you're going to spend hella money you could get their top of the line series and sound great. just MO
04-25-2005
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Rep Power: 261 i was just talking to the guy i'm buying my adire brahma from and he's ahving trouble finding out when he'll get them now.. early may for them to start shipping them out.. i really want one but might change so by thr sounds od it JL is the way to go but they;re expensive are they not? lol i'm kinda on a budget for my audio..
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Originally Posted by PopcornPlaya
. . . no company out there has a better waranty, that they stand behind, as JL. Your sub tears up, well, assuming you bought it from an Authorized Dealer, it's replaced at no cost to you. They are a company that stands behind their product, you can't say that much anymore.
A while back my 10W6V2 tore. I considered re-surrounding it as it was well outside of it's warranty. I built the box myself and installed everything myself. I called JL service to ask them if they had a suggestion as to what to use to resurround it. The guy asked me if I had a warranty etc, etc, etc. Long story short, they replaced the whole woofer with a brand new in box woofer no questions asked.
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Rep Power: 0 Just wanted to add my two cents. If someone has 2 JL 13W7s in their car and then installs ONE Ascendant Audio Avalanche 15 and is shocked by how good subwoofers can sound, that should tell you guys something. One whatever W7 costs what, 400 on a good day? You can get one of the ascendant audio avalanche 15s for 300. I was a huge fan of JL untill i heard these subs. the 12s hit like any other 15 and transition as fast as a 10. the 15s are just stupid. The biggest advandages are the second non-powered coil that can be used to tune the Q to your car/box and the fact that they WILL NOT bottom out. You need to get like 3 inches of XMAX before you start damaging the cone. That is a lot of air. I am putting 2 12" atlas subs in my car after hearing one 15 avalanche make my ears hurt in a suburban. One guy is getting 147+ dB SPL in his civic with 2 12s. Plus they go higher frequency wise (200+ hz) making midbass almost a thing of the past. Just my 2 cents. Oh yea, they dont need a buttload of power. Around 500 good watts rms a sub in a sealed box makes them happy, less in a ported or IB setup. So less drain on the charging system.
04-25-2005
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Rep Power: 0 jl better replace them considering how much people spend on that sub.
and how many of you have actually tried other high end subs that dont have huge names for themselves?
jl is big just because they have good marketing. not because they make thee best sub.
IDMAX's are very sweet, i dont think anyone can beat the sound quality that these subs produce on top of haveing more cone area then 99% of other subs out there with aalsdo makes these subs VERY loud. and there only like 300 for a 12.
and how many of you have actually tried other high end subs that dont have huge names for themselves?
jl is big just because they have good marketing. not because they make thee best sub.
IDMAX's are very sweet, i dont think anyone can beat the sound quality that these subs produce on top of haveing more cone area then 99% of other subs out there with aalsdo makes these subs VERY loud. and there only like 300 for a 12.
04-25-2005
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Rep Power: 293 my local shop recently put two 12w6v2 subs in a ported box in a tahoe. the put just a 500/1 on them and let me tell you, this sucker got loud. i was very impressed. at lower volumes, the entire system sounded great. i never heard the w6v2 ported before, but after hearing that tahoe, i am very impressed.
04-26-2005
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Originally Posted by radioactive77
jl better replace them considering how much people spend on that sub.
and how many of you have actually tried other high end subs that dont have huge names for themselves?
jl is big just because they have good marketing. not because they make thee best sub.
IDMAX's are very sweet, i dont think anyone can beat the sound quality that these subs produce on top of haveing more cone area then 99% of other subs out there with aalsdo makes these subs VERY loud. and there only like 300 for a 12.
and how many of you have actually tried other high end subs that dont have huge names for themselves?
jl is big just because they have good marketing. not because they make thee best sub.
IDMAX's are very sweet, i dont think anyone can beat the sound quality that these subs produce on top of haveing more cone area then 99% of other subs out there with aalsdo makes these subs VERY loud. and there only like 300 for a 12.
04-26-2005
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Originally Posted by boostaddict
Just wanted to add my two cents. If someone has 2 JL 13W7s in their car and then installs ONE Ascendant Audio Avalanche 15 and is shocked by how good subwoofers can sound, that should tell you guys something. One whatever W7 costs what, 400 on a good day? You can get one of the ascendant audio avalanche 15s for 300. I was a huge fan of JL untill i heard these subs. the 12s hit like any other 15 and transition as fast as a 10. the 15s are just stupid. The biggest advandages are the second non-powered coil that can be used to tune the Q to your car/box and the fact that they WILL NOT bottom out. You need to get like 3 inches of XMAX before you start damaging the cone. That is a lot of air. I am putting 2 12" atlas subs in my car after hearing one 15 avalanche make my ears hurt in a suburban. One guy is getting 147+ dB SPL in his civic with 2 12s. Plus they go higher frequency wise (200+ hz) making midbass almost a thing of the past. Just my 2 cents. Oh yea, they dont need a buttload of power. Around 500 good watts rms a sub in a sealed box makes them happy, less in a ported or IB setup. So less drain on the charging system.
Originally Posted by radioactive77
jl better replace them considering how much people spend on that sub.
and how many of you have actually tried other high end subs that dont have huge names for themselves?
jl is big just because they have good marketing. not because they make thee best sub.
IDMAX's are very sweet, i dont think anyone can beat the sound quality that these subs produce on top of haveing more cone area then 99% of other subs out there with aalsdo makes these subs VERY loud. and there only like 300 for a 12.
and how many of you have actually tried other high end subs that dont have huge names for themselves?
jl is big just because they have good marketing. not because they make thee best sub.
IDMAX's are very sweet, i dont think anyone can beat the sound quality that these subs produce on top of haveing more cone area then 99% of other subs out there with aalsdo makes these subs VERY loud. and there only like 300 for a 12.
Originally Posted by slick
my local shop recently put two 12w6v2 subs in a ported box in a tahoe. the put just a 500/1 on them and let me tell you, this sucker got loud. i was very impressed. at lower volumes, the entire system sounded great. i never heard the w6v2 ported before, but after hearing that tahoe, i am very impressed.
Bottom line, I'm not saying AA doesn't make good stuff and I'm not saying your crazy or wrong for liking it better than JL. But I am gonna call the hand when people start making inflated claims or implying bad qualities in companies like JL which are fruitless claims.
04-26-2005
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Everyone keeps saying JL is all in the marketing. I rarely see them advertise aside from a few car magazines here and there. What is everyone referring to?
All I have experienced is a damn good product line, that sells itself, mostly by word of mouth from devoted customers. I feel I can go buy any JL product and know that it will sound good, get plenty loud, be very sleek looking w/o being flashy, and be a nice quality product.
Everyone keeps saying JL is all in the marketing. I rarely see them advertise aside from a few car magazines here and there. What is everyone referring to?
All I have experienced is a damn good product line, that sells itself, mostly by word of mouth from devoted customers. I feel I can go buy any JL product and know that it will sound good, get plenty loud, be very sleek looking w/o being flashy, and be a nice quality product.
04-26-2005
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Originally Posted by Regularjoe
Stupid question.
Everyone keeps saying JL is all in the marketing. I rarely see them advertise aside from a few car magazines here and there. What is everyone referring to?
All I have experienced is a damn good product line, that sells itself, mostly by word of mouth from devoted customers. I feel I can go buy any JL product and know that it will sound good, get plenty loud, be very sleek looking w/o being flashy, and be a nice quality product.
Everyone keeps saying JL is all in the marketing. I rarely see them advertise aside from a few car magazines here and there. What is everyone referring to?
All I have experienced is a damn good product line, that sells itself, mostly by word of mouth from devoted customers. I feel I can go buy any JL product and know that it will sound good, get plenty loud, be very sleek looking w/o being flashy, and be a nice quality product.
04-26-2005
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Rep Power: 0 im syaing jl audio has great adds they put out in magazines and such and then you always see them on tv shows like unique whips etc.. it gives them a great name all though that do make good stuff.
im not saying they suck there amps are awesome but there subs arent the greatest IMHO.
the w7 is good for spl but for all around performance its definetely not up there.
and alot of companies i have delt with will work with you on replacing or fixing things outside of the warranty. whether its the costumers fault or not.
some companies like to go the extra mile and help people out.
and like i said this whole topic is about one guy wanting to be LOUD and w7 are rarely, if ever in a winning cometition, and i know he may not compete, but there is a reason that people dont use these subs in competitions.
its loud for a consumer, a little overpriced, and hard to get a deal on because you can only get from authorized dealer, or used. unless you know someone special.
im not saying they suck there amps are awesome but there subs arent the greatest IMHO.
the w7 is good for spl but for all around performance its definetely not up there.
and alot of companies i have delt with will work with you on replacing or fixing things outside of the warranty. whether its the costumers fault or not.
some companies like to go the extra mile and help people out.
and like i said this whole topic is about one guy wanting to be LOUD and w7 are rarely, if ever in a winning cometition, and i know he may not compete, but there is a reason that people dont use these subs in competitions.
its loud for a consumer, a little overpriced, and hard to get a deal on because you can only get from authorized dealer, or used. unless you know someone special.
04-26-2005
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JL Audio Wins Eleven Autosound Grand Prix Awards
Miramar, FL—JL Audio has been awarded eleven Auto Sound Grand Prix Awards by Audio Video International magazine—a leading trade publication for the consumer electronics industry.
The Autosound Grand Prix Awards is an annual event which takes place each March. It offers retailers a voice in choosing the best products of the year based on the following criteria: sound fidelity, design and engineering, reliability, user-and installer-friendliness, product integrity and value-for-price/performance.
The following JL Audio components received Grand Prix status:
JL Audio 500/1 (Single-Channel Amps)
JL Audio 300/2 (Stereo Amps up to 300W)
JL Audio 300/4 (Four Channel Amps 200W & Over)
JL Audio 500/5 (Other Multi-Channel Amps)
JL Audio TR650-CSi (Component Systems up to $250)
JL Audio XR650-CSi (Component Systems $250 & Over)
JL Audio 10W6v2 (10" Subs)
JL Audio 12W7 (12" Subs)
JL Audio 15W3 (15" & Over Subs)
JL Audio HO112R-W7 (Sub Enclosures)
JL Audio Stealthboxes (OEM-Fit Products: Audio)
JL Audio — Number One Overall for Fifth Year Straight in Inside Track Survey
Miramar, Florida—February 2003—Retailers nationwide have voted and JL Audio onceagain has received the coveted overall first-place position in the car audio category of Inside Track’s annual Supplier Loyalty Test survey. The survey measures how well a company performs on a wide range of parameters, all related to a successful partnership between manufacturers and independent specialists/custom installers.
JL Audio finished #1 Overall among car audio companies by placing in the top four (out of 19 companies) of all voting categories.
JL Audio President, Andy Oxenhorn said: "Being voted #1 for the fifth straight year is a wonderful honor and a significant vote of confidence from our dealer base."
JL Audio Wins Eleven Autosound Grand Prix Awards
Miramar, FL—JL Audio has been awarded eleven Auto Sound Grand Prix Awards by Audio Video International magazine—a leading trade publication for the consumer electronics industry.
The Autosound Grand Prix Awards is an annual event which takes place each March. It offers retailers a voice in choosing the best products of the year based on the following criteria: sound fidelity, design and engineering, reliability, user-and installer-friendliness, product integrity and value-for-price/performance.
The following JL Audio components received Grand Prix status:
JL Audio 500/1 (Single-Channel Amps)
JL Audio 300/2 (Stereo Amps up to 300W)
JL Audio 300/4 (Four Channel Amps 200W & Over)
JL Audio 500/5 (Other Multi-Channel Amps)
JL Audio TR650-CSi (Component Systems up to $250)
JL Audio XR650-CSi (Component Systems $250 & Over)
JL Audio 10W6v2 (10" Subs)
JL Audio 12W7 (12" Subs)
JL Audio 15W3 (15" & Over Subs)
JL Audio HO112R-W7 (Sub Enclosures)
JL Audio Stealthboxes (OEM-Fit Products: Audio)
JL Audio — Number One Overall for Fifth Year Straight in Inside Track Survey
Miramar, Florida—February 2003—Retailers nationwide have voted and JL Audio onceagain has received the coveted overall first-place position in the car audio category of Inside Track’s annual Supplier Loyalty Test survey. The survey measures how well a company performs on a wide range of parameters, all related to a successful partnership between manufacturers and independent specialists/custom installers.
JL Audio finished #1 Overall among car audio companies by placing in the top four (out of 19 companies) of all voting categories.
JL Audio President, Andy Oxenhorn said: "Being voted #1 for the fifth straight year is a wonderful honor and a significant vote of confidence from our dealer base."
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Rep Power: 364 well after all thise I decided to put together a list by manufacture, model number and website plus price if listed. All of these were referenced by the latest car audio mag and is no where near completion but its a start of what I gathered and thought may be useful
Also all of these subs are 1000 watts rms or more:
www.alphasonik.com
Alphasonik
PSW815 15" Sub 1000 RMS 2000 peak 440$ ea
www.atomiccloudspeaker.com
Atomic Subs
APX18D/Q 18 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX15D/Q 15 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX12D/Q 12 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX10D/Q 10 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX18D/Q 18 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX15D/Q 15 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX12D/Q 12 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
www.audiobahninc.com
AudioBahn Subs
AWIS15P 15" Sub 2000 RMS 600$ ea
AWIS12P 12" Sub 2250 RMS 500$ ea
AWIS10P 10" Sub 2250 RMS 400$ ea
AW1508T 15" Sub 2000 RMS 590$ ea
AW1208T 12" Sub 1500 RMS 450$ ea
AW1008T 10" Sub 1000 RMS 400$ ea
www.cadencesound.com
Cadence Subs
WB102 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB104 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB122 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB124 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB152 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
WB154 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
BM121 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM122 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM151 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
BM152 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
www.cerwin-vega.com
Cerwin Vega Subs
Stroker Pro 15" 4000 RMS 1699$ ea
Stroker Pro 12" 4000 RMS 1399$ ea
Stroker 102 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 104 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 4 ohm
Stroker 122 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 124 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 4ohm
Stroker 152 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 154 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 4 ohm
www.concept-intl.net
Concept Subs
CSP-15 15" sub 2000 RMS 1249$ ea
www.icontv.org
Critical Mass Subs
P1022 10" 1500 RMS 627$ ea
P1222 12" 1500 RMS 747$ ea
P1522 15" 1500 RMS 897$ ea
X-12L 12" 3000 RMS 999$ ea
X-10L 10" 3000 RMS 899$ ea
www.crystalmobilesound.com
Crystal Audio
COMP X212 12" 3200 rms 700$ ea
COMP X215 15" 3200 rms 800$ ea
www.cuttingedgeaudio.com
Cutting Edge
CET12 12" 1600 rms 520$ ea
CET15 15" 3200 rms 560$ ea
www.diabloaudio.com
Diablo Audio
Diablo 15 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15.2 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 15.2 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 12 db 12" 1200 rms 400$ ea
Diablo 12.2 db 12" 1200 rms 400$
www.diamondaudio.com
Diamond Audio
D910D2 10" 1000 rms 630$ ea
D912D2 12" 1200 rms 760$ ea
D915D2 15" 1500 rms 920$ ea
D615D2 15" 1000 rms 450$ ea
www.digitalaudio.com
Digital Designs Audio
DD3510d 10" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3512d 12" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3515d 15" 1000 rms Price tba
DD9510f 10" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9512f 12" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9515f 15" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9518f 18" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9910c 10" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9912c 12" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9915c 15" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9918c 18" 1500 rms Price tba
www.eclipse-web.com
Eclipse Audio
SW9182PRO 18" 3000 rms 1499$ ea
SW9152PRO 15" 3000 rms 1200$ tba
SW9152 15" 1500 rms 700$ ea
SW9122 12" 1500 rms 600$ ea
SW9102 10" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Also all of these subs are 1000 watts rms or more:
www.alphasonik.com
Alphasonik
PSW815 15" Sub 1000 RMS 2000 peak 440$ ea
www.atomiccloudspeaker.com
Atomic Subs
APX18D/Q 18 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX15D/Q 15 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX12D/Q 12 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX10D/Q 10 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX18D/Q 18 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX15D/Q 15 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX12D/Q 12 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
www.audiobahninc.com
AudioBahn Subs
AWIS15P 15" Sub 2000 RMS 600$ ea
AWIS12P 12" Sub 2250 RMS 500$ ea
AWIS10P 10" Sub 2250 RMS 400$ ea
AW1508T 15" Sub 2000 RMS 590$ ea
AW1208T 12" Sub 1500 RMS 450$ ea
AW1008T 10" Sub 1000 RMS 400$ ea
www.cadencesound.com
Cadence Subs
WB102 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB104 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB122 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB124 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB152 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
WB154 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
BM121 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM122 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM151 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
BM152 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
www.cerwin-vega.com
Cerwin Vega Subs
Stroker Pro 15" 4000 RMS 1699$ ea
Stroker Pro 12" 4000 RMS 1399$ ea
Stroker 102 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 104 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 4 ohm
Stroker 122 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 124 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 4ohm
Stroker 152 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 154 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 4 ohm
www.concept-intl.net
Concept Subs
CSP-15 15" sub 2000 RMS 1249$ ea
www.icontv.org
Critical Mass Subs
P1022 10" 1500 RMS 627$ ea
P1222 12" 1500 RMS 747$ ea
P1522 15" 1500 RMS 897$ ea
X-12L 12" 3000 RMS 999$ ea
X-10L 10" 3000 RMS 899$ ea
www.crystalmobilesound.com
Crystal Audio
COMP X212 12" 3200 rms 700$ ea
COMP X215 15" 3200 rms 800$ ea
www.cuttingedgeaudio.com
Cutting Edge
CET12 12" 1600 rms 520$ ea
CET15 15" 3200 rms 560$ ea
www.diabloaudio.com
Diablo Audio
Diablo 15 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15.2 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 15.2 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 12 db 12" 1200 rms 400$ ea
Diablo 12.2 db 12" 1200 rms 400$
www.diamondaudio.com
Diamond Audio
D910D2 10" 1000 rms 630$ ea
D912D2 12" 1200 rms 760$ ea
D915D2 15" 1500 rms 920$ ea
D615D2 15" 1000 rms 450$ ea
www.digitalaudio.com
Digital Designs Audio
DD3510d 10" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3512d 12" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3515d 15" 1000 rms Price tba
DD9510f 10" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9512f 12" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9515f 15" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9518f 18" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9910c 10" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9912c 12" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9915c 15" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9918c 18" 1500 rms Price tba
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Eclipse Audio
SW9182PRO 18" 3000 rms 1499$ ea
SW9152PRO 15" 3000 rms 1200$ tba
SW9152 15" 1500 rms 700$ ea
SW9122 12" 1500 rms 600$ ea
SW9102 10" 1500 rms 500$ ea
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Rep Power: 0 i meant spl competions no SQ,
but who cares about grand prix awards, just because someone gets an award for som sort of new innovation in technology or engineering doesnt mean its sounds the best or is the loudest
they would give me a grand prix if i made a 12 foot sub but i know it will sound like ***.
like i said 90%install and 10% product!
you can make anything sound good and ill spend less doing it.
but who cares about grand prix awards, just because someone gets an award for som sort of new innovation in technology or engineering doesnt mean its sounds the best or is the loudest
they would give me a grand prix if i made a 12 foot sub but i know it will sound like ***.
like i said 90%install and 10% product!
you can make anything sound good and ill spend less doing it.
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
well after all thise I decided to put together a list by manufacture, model number and website plus price if listed. All of these were referenced by the latest car audio mag and is no where near completion but its a start of what I gathered and thought may be useful
Also all of these subs are 1000 watts rms or more:
www.alphasonik.com
Alphasonik
PSW815 15" Sub 1000 RMS 2000 peak 440$ ea
www.atomiccloudspeaker.com
Atomic Subs
APX18D/Q 18 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX15D/Q 15 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX12D/Q 12 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX10D/Q 10 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX18D/Q 18 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX15D/Q 15 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX12D/Q 12 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
www.audiobahninc.com
AudioBahn Subs
AWIS15P 15" Sub 2000 RMS 600$ ea
AWIS12P 12" Sub 2250 RMS 500$ ea
AWIS10P 10" Sub 2250 RMS 400$ ea
AW1508T 15" Sub 2000 RMS 590$ ea
AW1208T 12" Sub 1500 RMS 450$ ea
AW1008T 10" Sub 1000 RMS 400$ ea
www.cadencesound.com
Cadence Subs
WB102 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB104 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB122 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB124 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB152 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
WB154 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
BM121 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM122 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM151 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
BM152 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
www.cerwin-vega.com
Cerwin Vega Subs
Stroker Pro 15" 4000 RMS 1699$ ea
Stroker Pro 12" 4000 RMS 1399$ ea
Stroker 102 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 104 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 4 ohm
Stroker 122 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 124 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 4ohm
Stroker 152 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 154 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 4 ohm
www.concept-intl.net
Concept Subs
CSP-15 15" sub 2000 RMS 1249$ ea
www.icontv.org
Critical Mass Subs
P1022 10" 1500 RMS 627$ ea
P1222 12" 1500 RMS 747$ ea
P1522 15" 1500 RMS 897$ ea
X-12L 12" 3000 RMS 999$ ea
X-10L 10" 3000 RMS 899$ ea
www.crystalmobilesound.com
Crystal Audio
COMP X212 12" 3200 rms 700$ ea
COMP X215 15" 3200 rms 800$ ea
www.cuttingedgeaudio.com
Cutting Edge
CET12 12" 1600 rms 520$ ea
CET15 15" 3200 rms 560$ ea
www.diabloaudio.com
Diablo Audio
Diablo 15 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15.2 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 15.2 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 12 db 12" 1200 rms 400$ ea
Diablo 12.2 db 12" 1200 rms 400$
www.diamondaudio.com
Diamond Audio
D910D2 10" 1000 rms 630$ ea
D912D2 12" 1200 rms 760$ ea
D915D2 15" 1500 rms 920$ ea
D615D2 15" 1000 rms 450$ ea
www.digitalaudio.com
Digital Designs Audio
DD3510d 10" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3512d 12" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3515d 15" 1000 rms Price tba
DD9510f 10" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9512f 12" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9515f 15" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9518f 18" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9910c 10" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9912c 12" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9915c 15" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9918c 18" 1500 rms Price tba
www.eclipse-web.com
Eclipse Audio
SW9182PRO 18" 3000 rms 1499$ ea
SW9152PRO 15" 3000 rms 1200$ tba
SW9152 15" 1500 rms 700$ ea
SW9122 12" 1500 rms 600$ ea
SW9102 10" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Also all of these subs are 1000 watts rms or more:
www.alphasonik.com
Alphasonik
PSW815 15" Sub 1000 RMS 2000 peak 440$ ea
www.atomiccloudspeaker.com
Atomic Subs
APX18D/Q 18 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX15D/Q 15 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX12D/Q 12 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APX10D/Q 10 " Sub 3000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX18D/Q 18 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX15D/Q 15 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
APXX12D/Q 12 " Sub 4000 RMS 10000 Peak
www.audiobahninc.com
AudioBahn Subs
AWIS15P 15" Sub 2000 RMS 600$ ea
AWIS12P 12" Sub 2250 RMS 500$ ea
AWIS10P 10" Sub 2250 RMS 400$ ea
AW1508T 15" Sub 2000 RMS 590$ ea
AW1208T 12" Sub 1500 RMS 450$ ea
AW1008T 10" Sub 1000 RMS 400$ ea
www.cadencesound.com
Cadence Subs
WB102 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB104 10" Sub 1200 RMS 269$ ea
WB122 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB124 12" Sub 1400 RMS 329$ ea
WB152 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
WB154 15" Sub 1500 RMS 439$ ea
BM121 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM122 12" Sub 5000 RMS 699$ ea
BM151 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
BM152 15" Sub 5000 RMS 749$ ea
www.cerwin-vega.com
Cerwin Vega Subs
Stroker Pro 15" 4000 RMS 1699$ ea
Stroker Pro 12" 4000 RMS 1399$ ea
Stroker 102 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 104 10" 4000 RMS 599$ ea 4 ohm
Stroker 122 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 124 12" 4000 RMS 749$ ea 4ohm
Stroker 152 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 2 ohm
Stroker 154 15" 4000 RMS 899$ ea 4 ohm
www.concept-intl.net
Concept Subs
CSP-15 15" sub 2000 RMS 1249$ ea
www.icontv.org
Critical Mass Subs
P1022 10" 1500 RMS 627$ ea
P1222 12" 1500 RMS 747$ ea
P1522 15" 1500 RMS 897$ ea
X-12L 12" 3000 RMS 999$ ea
X-10L 10" 3000 RMS 899$ ea
www.crystalmobilesound.com
Crystal Audio
COMP X212 12" 3200 rms 700$ ea
COMP X215 15" 3200 rms 800$ ea
www.cuttingedgeaudio.com
Cutting Edge
CET12 12" 1600 rms 520$ ea
CET15 15" 3200 rms 560$ ea
www.diabloaudio.com
Diablo Audio
Diablo 15 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15.2 15" 1000 rms 250$ ea
Diablo 15 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 15.2 db 15" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Diablo 12 db 12" 1200 rms 400$ ea
Diablo 12.2 db 12" 1200 rms 400$
www.diamondaudio.com
Diamond Audio
D910D2 10" 1000 rms 630$ ea
D912D2 12" 1200 rms 760$ ea
D915D2 15" 1500 rms 920$ ea
D615D2 15" 1000 rms 450$ ea
www.digitalaudio.com
Digital Designs Audio
DD3510d 10" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3512d 12" 1000 rms Price tba
DD3515d 15" 1000 rms Price tba
DD9510f 10" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9512f 12" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9515f 15" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9518f 18" 1200 rms Price tba
DD9910c 10" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9912c 12" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9915c 15" 1500 rms Price tba
DD9918c 18" 1500 rms Price tba
www.eclipse-web.com
Eclipse Audio
SW9182PRO 18" 3000 rms 1499$ ea
SW9152PRO 15" 3000 rms 1200$ tba
SW9152 15" 1500 rms 700$ ea
SW9122 12" 1500 rms 600$ ea
SW9102 10" 1500 rms 500$ ea
Originally Posted by radioactive77
i meant spl competions no SQ,
but who cares about grand prix awards, just because someone gets an award for som sort of new innovation in technology or engineering doesnt mean its sounds the best or is the loudest
they would give me a grand prix if i made a 12 foot sub but i know it will sound like ***.
like i said 90%install and 10% product!
you can make anything sound good and ill spend less doing it.
but who cares about grand prix awards, just because someone gets an award for som sort of new innovation in technology or engineering doesnt mean its sounds the best or is the loudest
they would give me a grand prix if i made a 12 foot sub but i know it will sound like ***.
like i said 90%install and 10% product!
you can make anything sound good and ill spend less doing it.
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Rep Power: 0 i totally agree with all of that. all are great products but install still needs to be perfect to get the best of each product, using t/s parameters etc.... but not alot stores and such do that, only mostly people whom compete go to take it that far.
if you going to through a w7 in a .75 cubic box sealed with 2 watts rms it wont maximize that subs potential, and most people dont realize that.
same with the solo x 18" VERY loud sub but requires something like
11 cubic foot box to do some damage and that wont even fit in most vehicles comfortably.
again i totally agree with you, but people on here want the biggest and baddest and dont realize that a lower end sub in a specific box will sound better then a super high end from that same manufacturer in the same size box, so there better off buying something smaller that accomadates there vehicle.
if you going to through a w7 in a .75 cubic box sealed with 2 watts rms it wont maximize that subs potential, and most people dont realize that.
same with the solo x 18" VERY loud sub but requires something like
11 cubic foot box to do some damage and that wont even fit in most vehicles comfortably.
again i totally agree with you, but people on here want the biggest and baddest and dont realize that a lower end sub in a specific box will sound better then a super high end from that same manufacturer in the same size box, so there better off buying something smaller that accomadates there vehicle.
