best position for sub enclosure for max performance
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best position for sub enclosure for max performance
im curious to know how anyone of you out there place there sub enclosure in a specific position to get maximum performance out of it. is it facing toward the driver or away? slanted upward?
post up your sub enclosure box type, where its positioned specifically, and the pros n cons?
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Yup thats what i remember from that thread not to long ago too. That seemed to be the agreement, but it really is personaly preference on how you like it to sound.
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what did you guys use to make it so the box wouldnt slide around?
i went to home depot to look for L shape brackets and those little things got like $5 a piece for the larger ones.
any other suggestions to keep the box mounted onto the trunk wood surface? not permanently though.
i went to home depot to look for L shape brackets and those little things got like $5 a piece for the larger ones.
any other suggestions to keep the box mounted onto the trunk wood surface? not permanently though.
ok honda sales your right to a point. you can position your woofer any direction you want to and have it thump. but to maximize your output frequency to the driver and passangers ears you want to face the woofer towards the decklid. and ice *****(cant tell what ur tag name is) what size or amount of woofers you installin in your car? is the box already built? because if its not built yet you can build a box to fit the rear of ur trunk and make the width snug up to ur wheel wells, but if your only runnin one woofer you wont need 3/4ths of that space. you cant really drill inthe the floor pan in the trunk because isnt the gas tank there? if your running one woofer you will need to find some info out and make a brace for it, that would be the best way to hold it down. sorry i cant help too much my brother ExZaCc is the one with the civic, i just am the one that did the paint job and interior and soon system in it.
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It doesn't matter how they face, to an extent. Bass, however, is omni directional, and sounds better, and projects better when reflected off of a surface. The trunk lid is generally good at doing this because of the width of it, it disperese the energy over a larger surface, thus reflecting it over a wider range. Think of a concert. The subs are never pointed at you, where as the high frequency speakers are. Leave the room the concert is being played in (at a venue anyway with a properly set up sound system), gurantee you, 9 times out of 10, once the door is shut, you'll only "hear" the sub frequencies. The highs are pointed directly at you, thus are not reflecting off of anything. Their sound wave is directional dependant.
That said, generally speaking, in our vehicles usually maximize output with teh sub facing the rear approximately 6 inches from the trunk lid (when shut). est idea however, to get the best result, is to play with different positioning. Position it in any direction you can think of, and operate the driver at operating range listening to which sounds best to you.
As far as securing the sub box in the vehicle, you have all kinds of options. Build a li[p around the box on teh trunk floor. Sit the box in there, it won't slide. Another method is to use teh L brackets you are talking about. Another method still is to use some type of strapping (such as metal strapping for air conditioning in homes) and strap the box down, ghetto yes, but the box won't slide all over the place. Another mathod is to glue the carpet to the floor, and attach velcro to the bottom of the box (just the prickly plastic side, not the felt like side). It'll stick to teh carpet. (easiest method as far as removal goes). Yet another method (and this really relies on replacing the board in the trunk floor with a solid such as mdf) unload teh woofer out of teh box. From there go inside the box and run screws through it into the floor. Once that's done, reload the woofer into the box,. This is possibly the most theft deterring method, as they'd have to unload the driver to get the box out. What theif carries a screw gun around with them? Anything you can think of can be used to secure it really, those are just some common ideas that work well.
That said, generally speaking, in our vehicles usually maximize output with teh sub facing the rear approximately 6 inches from the trunk lid (when shut). est idea however, to get the best result, is to play with different positioning. Position it in any direction you can think of, and operate the driver at operating range listening to which sounds best to you.
As far as securing the sub box in the vehicle, you have all kinds of options. Build a li[p around the box on teh trunk floor. Sit the box in there, it won't slide. Another method is to use teh L brackets you are talking about. Another method still is to use some type of strapping (such as metal strapping for air conditioning in homes) and strap the box down, ghetto yes, but the box won't slide all over the place. Another mathod is to glue the carpet to the floor, and attach velcro to the bottom of the box (just the prickly plastic side, not the felt like side). It'll stick to teh carpet. (easiest method as far as removal goes). Yet another method (and this really relies on replacing the board in the trunk floor with a solid such as mdf) unload teh woofer out of teh box. From there go inside the box and run screws through it into the floor. Once that's done, reload the woofer into the box,. This is possibly the most theft deterring method, as they'd have to unload the driver to get the box out. What theif carries a screw gun around with them? Anything you can think of can be used to secure it really, those are just some common ideas that work well.
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honestly it usually sounds better if you have them facing directly outward and slap some dynamat on anything in front of them. In an open space, though, bass IS omnidirectional and will sound almost exactly the same from any angle.
The only correct answer is the one Pop gave in the middle of his post. Try it different ways and see which one sounds better. If you are looking for tighter bass, aiming at the cabin might be right for you, like a deep low note, relect it off the lid. If you arent' going to deaden the lid the lid will steal some of the thunder though. Try different things. Personally, I've never thought twice about giving up a tiny bit of performance to accomodate a nice install like HondaSales has above. It's all relative and it's all personal preference. Its literally like saying, hey guys, what sneakers are the nicest looking.
I had the most luck downfiring in our cars. second was upfiring with the subwoofers real low (false floor). but itd be a real close race between that and rear firing close to the lid.
the worst performance I got was from upfiring with the woofer located directly behind the center console. like, 6 inches behind the e brake, on the floor. miles better but still secondmost awful came from upfiring with the woofers loaded off the rear deck (as in, box stuffed into the trunk firing up). third most awful was forward firing. sounded great till I opened a window. or I tune it to be great with a window open and shut it looses all impact.
you may discover something different. but for best possible performance, I personally would downfire. for easy of install I would rearfire. and to maximize usable trunkspace I would make a false floor over an install similar to honda sales.
the worst performance I got was from upfiring with the woofer located directly behind the center console. like, 6 inches behind the e brake, on the floor. miles better but still secondmost awful came from upfiring with the woofers loaded off the rear deck (as in, box stuffed into the trunk firing up). third most awful was forward firing. sounded great till I opened a window. or I tune it to be great with a window open and shut it looses all impact.
you may discover something different. but for best possible performance, I personally would downfire. for easy of install I would rearfire. and to maximize usable trunkspace I would make a false floor over an install similar to honda sales.
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