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Give me a heads up on this
i dont kno too much about capacitors or what he diffrence is but is this an ok product to use for my musik? 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5719528589
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Rep Power: 0 Absolutly not. Never buy anything from pyramid. There products are knock offs and of very poor quality and never realy produce what they advertise.
Another thing to note is that some recomend getting a better battery than using a cap. This of course has been debated by both sides over and over.
However, If you want to buy a cap go with a real brand like stinger, lightning audio, audiobahn, rockford, Phoenix gold, etc. The quality and price will vary but even the worst of the bunch will work.
I must reiterate though. NEVER BUY ANYTHING PYRAMID. If the price is low there is a reason.
Another thing to note is that some recomend getting a better battery than using a cap. This of course has been debated by both sides over and over.
However, If you want to buy a cap go with a real brand like stinger, lightning audio, audiobahn, rockford, Phoenix gold, etc. The quality and price will vary but even the worst of the bunch will work.
I must reiterate though. NEVER BUY ANYTHING PYRAMID. If the price is low there is a reason.
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Originally Posted by tbaleno
Absolutly not. Never buy anything from pyramid. There products are knock offs and of very poor quality and never realy produce what they advertise.
Another thing to note is that some recomend getting a better battery than using a cap. This of course has been debated by both sides over and over.
However, If you want to buy a cap go with a real brand like stinger, lightning audio, audiobahn, rockford, Phoenix gold, etc. The quality and price will vary but even the worst of the bunch will work.
I must reiterate though. NEVER BUY ANYTHING PYRAMID. If the price is low there is a reason.
Another thing to note is that some recomend getting a better battery than using a cap. This of course has been debated by both sides over and over.
However, If you want to buy a cap go with a real brand like stinger, lightning audio, audiobahn, rockford, Phoenix gold, etc. The quality and price will vary but even the worst of the bunch will work.
I must reiterate though. NEVER BUY ANYTHING PYRAMID. If the price is low there is a reason.
ok sounds honest tome thx
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Rep Power: 786 Sorry man it's no good, I'd rather tell you it's crap than have you spend your money and find out the hard way.
Capacitors are SUPPOSEDLY designed to give your system a quick jolt of power when it needs it. They do work fine for that but they do need to charge and they will bog down your electrical system after that, especially if it KEEPS drawing a lot of power and can't charge quickly. I have a capacitor (1 farad) and HAD the stock battery and I had a lot of dimming, so I upgraded to a battery designed for high powered audio systems and it's all but gone unless I REALLY want to put it under a heavy load, in which case it's STILL not near as bad as it was.
Long story short, if you really want to give your system a good source of power, install a proper battery.
If you want the cheap solution, the rule of thumb is .5 farad of capacitance for every 500 watts. That is .5 for 500 watts, 1.0 for 1000, 1.5 for 1500 and so on.
Capacitors are SUPPOSEDLY designed to give your system a quick jolt of power when it needs it. They do work fine for that but they do need to charge and they will bog down your electrical system after that, especially if it KEEPS drawing a lot of power and can't charge quickly. I have a capacitor (1 farad) and HAD the stock battery and I had a lot of dimming, so I upgraded to a battery designed for high powered audio systems and it's all but gone unless I REALLY want to put it under a heavy load, in which case it's STILL not near as bad as it was.
Long story short, if you really want to give your system a good source of power, install a proper battery.
If you want the cheap solution, the rule of thumb is .5 farad of capacitance for every 500 watts. That is .5 for 500 watts, 1.0 for 1000, 1.5 for 1500 and so on.
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well b4 i was looking in to this i had made a purcahse of wire kit for my musik...after my man posted NEVER BUY ANYTHING PYRAMID i went and looked back at it and its a ****ing PYRAMID wire kit ......shieeeeeeeeeet....well i hope it works ok..
thx 4 da heads up guyz i apreciate it much
well b4 i was looking in to this i had made a purcahse of wire kit for my musik...after my man posted NEVER BUY ANYTHING PYRAMID i went and looked back at it and its a ****ing PYRAMID wire kit ......shieeeeeeeeeet....well i hope it works ok..
thx 4 da heads up guyz i apreciate it much
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Rep Power: 0 Well wire is pretty much wire. Its probaby not ofc wire (oxygen free copper) but Its not like it can't pass current at all.
Don't worry about your wire being pyramid. Its not the end of the world. I was mostly talking about electronics like amps and caps and speakers.
The next step you might want to do is to increase the guage of the wire going to your alternator from the + terminal, and from the ground terminal to both the engine and chassis. This will help the charging system and could also help reduce dimming.
Don't worry about your wire being pyramid. Its not the end of the world. I was mostly talking about electronics like amps and caps and speakers.
The next step you might want to do is to increase the guage of the wire going to your alternator from the + terminal, and from the ground terminal to both the engine and chassis. This will help the charging system and could also help reduce dimming.
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Originally Posted by tbaleno
Well wire is pretty much wire. Its probaby not ofc wire (oxygen free copper) but Its not like it can't pass current at all.
Don't worry about your wire being pyramid. Its not the end of the world. I was mostly talking about electronics like amps and caps and speakers.
The next step you might want to do is to increase the guage of the wire going to your alternator from the + terminal, and from the ground terminal to both the engine and chassis. This will help the charging system and could also help reduce dimming.
Don't worry about your wire being pyramid. Its not the end of the world. I was mostly talking about electronics like amps and caps and speakers.
The next step you might want to do is to increase the guage of the wire going to your alternator from the + terminal, and from the ground terminal to both the engine and chassis. This will help the charging system and could also help reduce dimming.
well this is what the kit freatures
FEATURES:
20ft 4 Gauge Red Power Wire
4ft 4 Gauge Black Ground Wire
20ft 16 Gauge Blue Remote Turn-on
20ft 12 Gauge Speaker Wire
20ft Right Angle RCA Interconnect Audio Cable
6ft Black Split Loom Cable Conduit
AGU Type 60A Gold Plated Fuse
Water Resistant In-line Fuse Holder
2 Ring Terminals: 4 G
2 Spade Terminals: 4 G
5 Spade Terminals: 14-16 G
3 Butt Connectors
20 Cable Ties
1 Black Grommet
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..ok so no amps, speakers etc...koo
i did get mugen groundwire kit for the engine..lol im a wire boy today...
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Rep Power: 786 You would have been better off to just cut your own wires for the ground kit, but with the money you saved from not buying the capacitor, why not I guess 
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Originally Posted by MegaHurtz
You would have been better off to just cut your own wires for the ground kit, but with the money you saved from not buying the capacitor, why not I guess
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Rep Power: 786 Well the problem with the average person trying to DIY a ground kit is if you don't have a large set of crimpers it can be very hard to make good connections. When you are doing 4 awg you need to crimp with a large crimping tool (or solder which takes forever) otherwise it will never stick... doing it with 8 isn't so bad becaues you can still use standard wire strippers but it can be a bit difficult and unreliable
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Originally Posted by MegaHurtz
Well the problem with the average person trying to DIY a ground kit is if you don't have a large set of crimpers it can be very hard to make good connections. When you are doing 4 awg you need to crimp with a large crimping tool (or solder which takes forever) otherwise it will never stick... doing it with 8 isn't so bad becaues you can still use standard wire strippers but it can be a bit difficult and unreliable
yeah i hear ya
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Rep Power: 786 Well let's get back to the topic at hand... why were you looking for a capacitor in the first place? To charge and touch your tounge to the terminals?
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Originally Posted by MegaHurtz
Well let's get back to the topic at hand... why were you looking for a capacitor in the first place? To charge and touch your tounge to the terminals?
LMFAO that sounds like a good power trip...lol
well im redoing my interior this winter...everything is gonna be the same but all fiberglass..and since my friends at the shop r gon take the entire interior to out of the car i thought it would be the best time to work on musik installation..and to answer your Q, i thought i needed one so it would sound better..again i kno nothing about capacitors...and i still dont kno if one is necesary...idk
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Rep Power: 786 Yeah and if you REALLY have the money get a good alternator as well.... get a large enough alternator and you can run anything you like
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Originally Posted by tbaleno
Take our advice and invest in a good battery or two 
Stripping the interior of the car would probably only take 30 minutes. Its not like you can't do it anytime you want.
Stripping the interior of the car would probably only take 30 minutes. Its not like you can't do it anytime you want.
true true but why not do it all @ once
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Originally Posted by MegaHurtz
Yeah and if you REALLY have the money get a good alternator as well.... get a large enough alternator and you can run anything you like
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Rep Power: 786 ya its all good so far
u dont really NEED an alternator but if you really want to do it right u will get one. batteries are the most important thing though
u dont really NEED an alternator but if you really want to do it right u will get one. batteries are the most important thing though
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Originally Posted by MegaHurtz
ya its all good so far
u dont really NEED an alternator but if you really want to do it right u will get one. batteries are the most important thing though
u dont really NEED an alternator but if you really want to do it right u will get one. batteries are the most important thing though
ok sounds good...thanks for your help
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Rep Power: 0 while your at it replace the RCAs that came with the pyramid wiring kit. Those DO make a difference.
And I probably don't have to tell you this but run power down one side of the car and rcas down the other.
OH, and for real fun talking about car audio check out www.sounddomain.com and on the bar at the top right you will see live chat. Go there. Tons of people talking about car audio all day and late into the night.
And I probably don't have to tell you this but run power down one side of the car and rcas down the other.
OH, and for real fun talking about car audio check out www.sounddomain.com and on the bar at the top right you will see live chat. Go there. Tons of people talking about car audio all day and late into the night.
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Rep Power: 380 I run a Yellow top Optima and 0 gauge wire to a 1 farad cap and it seems pretty sufficent. Next on my list is the altenator though. I can't seem to find one under $200.
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