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Not sure if this is the right forum, but it is related to audio...

I'm wondering if anyone knows what the foam blocks are for on the inside of the door panel. I cut about 3/4" of it off so I could fit a crossover in that pocket (outside of the plastic stuff, so it wouldn't get wet). It was fine for a few days, but I the crossover jiggled back further, and now my window gets stuck on it as I try to roll it down.

I'm wondering if I can cut more off the foam block, or if it is there for a reason. I was going to chop off more of it, but began to wonder if maybe it was there to keep the window in place, or at least keep it from wobbling back and forth when it is down (and therefore cutting it more -- let alone cutting it in the first place -- might not be a good idea).

Anyone know why it is there?

 
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I would imagine it would be more for road noise, rather than stereo audio... I dont know about the impacts on the window though, just my thoughts

 
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i ripped mine off years ago, but then gain i wouldnt notice road noise since my doors re sound deadened like beasts

 
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It's actually there to prvent flexing of the door panel or pushing in of the plastic on the door panel.

 
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Close to 2 yrs ago i'd say it was, i am almost positive that i read on this here forum that it was "illegal" to remove those foam blocks from the doors because it would change some sort of safety/design specs of the car, i ddin't totally believe it when i read it but at the same time i didn't want to not believe it, there are some crazy **** things out there that the higher above authorities make illegal for dumba$$ reasons.

By the way, i took mine out last summer when i put 25 sq's of fatmat in each of my doors. Still haven't been busted by the FBI so i guess it's all good. They must be busy chasing down all of those outlaws that remove the tags from their mattresses.

 
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i think its legal to remove the tags, just illegal to sell a matress without tags, but dont quote me.

 
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Isn't it illegal to use anykind of illustrations of Kermit and Bart Simpson without their written permission?

 
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nah, me and kermit go way back. back in the day when we was straight kickin in back in the hood, i said "hey kermit, lemme use your picture on the internet?" and kermit says to me "fo sho my brotha, just as long as you lemme hit some of that green sticky icky weed"

 
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just wondering but what pushes the plastic door panel when the power windows go down? if you watch the plastic panel, it moves when the window opens

 
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It is illegal. There are also some in your quarter panel. They are there for your safety. Look at where they're placed. Righ where your door would be the most likely to fold in in case of a side impact. Same in the quarters. I took mine out for my TV brain in the quarters too, but its a big fine if you get into an accident and they find out you removed them.

 
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I highly doubt that a couple pieces of FOAM is going to stop anykind of injury from hapening to the occupants of the vehicle. If you really believe that it is 'illegal' then you should back your claim up.

What I meant by my post is that it most likely protects the actual plastic door panel from becoming warped or damaged after time.

 
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if it was that important, then why dont we hear about it more often? also, why doesnt honda put a simple warning sticker on it then?

 
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Well circuit city removed mine from the front doors when they put in dynamat. So I guess it's time to take them to court?

 
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Hahaha! That's awesome.

 
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Any sources...? I searched all over Google and couldn't find anything to indicate this.

On a side note, I figured out a way to fit my crossovers in without cutting the foam further. In case anyone else in interested (and has JL Audio crossovers, or something smaller), they fit right underneath the foam -- just tape them to the metal (I kept the plastic cover on, so I taped them to that) right below the hole. You can kind of jiggle them in place before you snap the door back on, too. The JLs fit in pretty snug (between the foam and the edge of the panel).

 
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Close friend is a tech at Chapman Dodge here in Phoenix. You people are always ready to call bullshit on something you've simply never heard of. Well, take a moment and think of a few DOT regulations including side impact safety standards. Take a look at those "foam" inserts. They're probably the single most condensed foam you have ever seen in your life. Now take a look at the location of them. Right in the spot where your sheet metal has a large opening to service the interior of the door. You think it's to protect your panel? Your panel is constructed of a high quality plastic. Try pushing it in on your own. I don't care who believes it, but use your brain for something intelligent, not to call bullshit when you yourself are not sure. Sorry, for those who simply just wanted to know more about it. You can contact the National Transportaion Safety website or call a local dealership. They should be relatively difficult to get them off of the panel (just the glue). It's like the pillow tag thing though, what are the odds it will affect you? Well.....unless that 72 Caddy t-bones you.

 
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In case anyone cares, i believe the site he is referring to is that of the national transportation safety board, which can be reached at www.ntsb.gov

I already searched around the site for a few minutes seeing if i could come up with something but didn't, i didn't really feel like searching...too tired. I've visited that site hundreds of times to look up aviation accidents and incidents, something that most of us pilots do from time to time. but anyways from first glance there's nowhere's to look for info on required safety equipment on cars.

I believe that it probably is illegal to remove the foam out of the door panels, it's just not very likely that a person would ever get caught and forced to face any consequences, safety/inspections of cars are a joke IMO, i mean i live in NY state where we need our cars to pass inspections every year, and every yr i hear friends or friends of friends etc who say how they jst go down to such and such a place where the mechanic went to school with their father so he just gives them a sticker, of course these are always the same people who drive cars with bald tires or tail lights out or brakes that are nearly shot but they can't afford to get it fixed and don't have to because they have "connections".....

Certification of vehicles concerning their ability to drive safely is a joke IMO, so it's doubtful that removing those foam blocks will ever make any difference in your life at all, unless you get t-boned.

 
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Wasn't calling bullshit on you man, I was simply asking that you back your claim up. In my time of, wasting time on the net I have seen many people make claims and not really explain their reasoning behind it.
I've been installing in cars professionaly for over ten years and have been working on cars since I started driving which is about 16years now. No, I don't know everything about cars nor do I ever pretend I do. It's just that MY common sense tells me that a piece of foam won't protect anyone. It's just my opinion and yes I have modified/removed many of those foam blocks in my time.

Also dealerships will always tell you almost anykind of modification or repair done by anyone else other than their own mechanics is a violations of their warranty or somekind of law. The NTS would be the better choice.

 
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[QUOTE=catalin] It's just that MY common sense tells me that a piece of foam won't protect anyone. QUOTE]

When it comes to rules and regulations for safety, common sense is thrown out the window in many instances, anybody who's flown on an airline can recall that before takeoff or landing you are instructed to keep your seats in the upright position.....now honestly if your seat is fully upright or leaned back 15 degrees and the plane crashes....will it make a difference?

_| Alive

_/ Dead?

_| Alive?

_/ Dead?

Common sense tells you it won't make a difference......But it's the rules

 
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I agree 100% Tom, but if its against the law then post some government link so we can all see for ourselves.

And if you're leaned back i think a person would be more likely to slip out from under their belt. Whereas when seated upright the bodies motion would be straight into the belt, at which point it would keep you seated.

 
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Mine fell off by themselves....

 
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I guess that could be one way of explaining why they aren't there anymore. Mine fell off by themselves too, and a fierce wind magically blew them right into the garbage can....moments before the garbage truck came, i tried to save them...honest i did

 
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I'm not calling bullshit at all. I just don't take the word of one guy on a message board somewhere as gospel truth. When it comes to knowledge I get off the internet, I like to look stuff up and find it from multiple sources before I start to believe it. That's why I asked for whatever source you got this information from.

I'll take a look at that site, thanks.

In case anyone is interested: http://www.originalmattress.com/prod...ttresscare.asp

 
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lol. Sometimes I rip other peoples matress tags off. It the only way I can live vicariously these days.

 
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i dont think anyone is calling bullshiet...we just want to see the proof...you're shooting claims but you're not backing it up...no one was able to dig up any info about it either....if you want us to use common sense, then it's common sense that we dont believe you until we see the proof.

now go find us the documents to back up your claim

 
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Ok, I think we've come to the concencus that there might be some truth to the safety side of theose blocks. However, I'm not going to spend my time surfing for something I found out at the dealership. So as much as I want to contribute, call 1411 and find out the number of your local dealership and ask them.

Seacrest Out.