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Old Jul 2, 2003
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Help with alpine

What's up, I'm looking to hook up a system and I'm gonna use all alpine. I just bought 2 12in type r's and I'm gonna get a 4 channel v12 for the mids and highs. My question is, should I get another 4 channel v12 and bridge it for the 12's or is there another alpine amp that is a 2 channel? Anyone have any reccommendations on an alpine head unit? Also, if anyone has all alpine are you happy with it's performance? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Id recommend a class D Alpine, this is a great amp for those 2 subs.........more power than its rated

This amp has 1 channel. It would be a prefect compliment for the Type R subs.

As far as head units. Alpine is a great choice, but like all things it depends on your cash flow

If your willing to dish out 350$+ id reccomend this oneAlpine CDA-7995

If your straped for cash then get this one Alpine CDA 9811

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I'd recommend the CDA-9815. Very easy to use. You can also go to the ipersonalize section at www.alpine-usa.com and get your time correction settings. THese head units are god sent! Right now I only have a CDA-7892 (upgrade to 9815), 6.5 Type R Components up front powered by my MRV-T320 Amp and my rearfill (6x9 Type S 3-Way speakers) is powered by my headunit. Sorry, no help with the subs category. Ask "CantSeeMe." His whole setup is Alpine and it looks awesome!! -M
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Alpines Mono amps can be controlled by the bass engine setting in your head unit. Not to mention the time Correction and other setting in the AMP itself!
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Originally posted by DIZZLE
Id recommend a class D Alpine, this is a great amp for those 2 subs.........more power than its rated

This amp has 1 channel. It would be a prefect compliment for the Type R subs.

As far as head units. Alpine is a great choice, but like all things it depends on your cash flow

If your willing to dish out 350$+ id reccomend this oneAlpine CDA-7995

If your straped for cash then get this one Alpine CDA 9811
So I can hook up a mono amp to both of the 12's and have no problem? Thanks for the help everyone.
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I also plan on going all alpine. The m500 class d is $400 at most places but you can get it brand new on ebay for $179
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Originally posted by mattymatt
So I can hook up a mono amp to both of the 12's and have no problem? Thanks for the help everyone.

Yes, with no problems at all. The question is do you want a 2 channel amp or a class D.
With a class D amp you will ONLY be able to use it for Bass, since it only has a LPF ( Low pass filter), However, with a 2 channel you would be able to get much better sound quality out of your subs.
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Originally posted by DIZZLE
Yes, with no problems at all. The question is do you want a 2 channel amp or a class D.
With a class D amp you will ONLY be able to use it for Bass, since it only has a LPF ( Low pass filter), However, with a 2 channel you would be able to get much better sound quality out of your subs.
I kinda disagree. If your wanting more that 60hz out of your subs you may want to add some mid-bass drivers and feed them off a 2-channel from 45-80hz. then you get alittle overlap with the big guys pounding 60 and below!

Just my earpinion!
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Don't the v12's only come in 4 channel and mono? What other amps do they have that are 2 channel?
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Originally posted by DIZZLE
Yes, with no problems at all. The question is do you want a 2 channel amp or a class D.
With a class D amp you will ONLY be able to use it for Bass, since it only has a LPF ( Low pass filter), However, with a 2 channel you would be able to get much better sound quality out of your subs.
In what way would you get better SQ out of subs if you used a 2channel amp? It has nothing to do with channels whatsoever. A class a/b amp or a class d amp will sound pretty much the same to most people, and you can get a lot more power out of a class D for a lot less cash than a good powerful class a/b.

I beleive the Alpine monobocks have a variable LPF up to 200 hz in 1/6 octave increments. Granted, I wouldent run subs over 120 hz, but thats a lot of adjustment capability.
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Originally posted by Mystic3030
In what way would you get better SQ out of subs if you used a 2channel amp? It has nothing to do with channels whatsoever. A class a/b amp or a class d amp will sound pretty much the same to most people, and you can get a lot more power out of a class D for a lot less cash than a good powerful class a/b.

I beleive the Alpine monobocks have a variable LPF up to 200 hz in 1/6 octave increments. Granted, I wouldent run subs over 120 hz, but thats a lot of adjustment capability.
I get what your saying Mystic, were talking about type R subs. They dont handle that much power first of all. They Say they can handle 1000 watts, but id would not put more than 500 watts RMS to both subs. If you put a 500D on those subs, id be very cafeful because those subs would be at their limit.

Id get the class D because you can always upgrade subs, After 6 months with these subs im sure hell want to upgrade to a more powerful sub

But as far as The type R subs(were talking sound quality). Id run them at 2 ohms, 1 sub to each channel with this amp This bad boy can easily pull 225x2 RMS . You would push the subs VERY nicely.


Mystic Do you remember before class D's came around? Not that long ago. Companys are JUST NOW figuring out how to get good quality sound out of them.Hell i remember the days when class D's were concidered CHEATER AMPS. You obviously are NEW SCHOOL with car audio.
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Originally posted by tcostello3
I kinda disagree. If your wanting more that 60hz out of your subs you may want to add some mid-bass drivers and feed them off a 2-channel from 45-80hz. then you get alittle overlap with the big guys pounding 60 and below!

Just my earpinion!
WHAT IS THERE TO DISAGREE ON?

Who said anything about being above 60 Hz. I never run mine over 55 Hz.

Since your off the subject,Mid-bass off a 2 channel amp? And your Highs offwhat the deck??

why not have 2 Component sets and 2 mid bass drivers on a 4 channel amp.

If you do your system RIGHT you should not have to use 3+ pluss amps.
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So if I hook up the 500d to both she subs, am I getting 500 each sub or 250 each? I'm gonna either go with the mrv-f540 which is a 4 and a 2 channel or the mrd-m500 which is mono. What do you guys reccommend for best base and sound quality, cause I can't wait to have my sh%t thumpin?
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Also, if you think the subs would be at their limit can't I just turn the gain down a little to be safe?
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Originally posted by mattymatt
So if I hook up the 500d to both she subs, am I getting 500 each sub or 250 each? I'm gonna either go with the mrv-f540 which is a 4 and a 2 channel or the mrd-m500 which is mono. What do you guys reccommend for best base and sound quality, cause I can't wait to have my sh%t thumpin?
1. it depends on yur OHM load. 4 ohms it gonna do about 150watt rms to each around 400 peak at 2 OHM id say 275 watts rms to each about 650-700 peak. Alpine is one of the few companys that under-rate their power (so does RF, MTX,Memphis..couple more)

2.Sounds like you like BIG BASS get a class D

3. Why are you set on Alpine. You dont seem to know alot about them, have you checked anyother brands? You could get a better woofer around the same price range.
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I hear alot of good things about alpine. Plus I've had kenwood and jbl products and I think any other brand is better than that. I basically want to keep everything the same brand and it's too late now, I already ordered the subs and a 4 channel amp for the mids and lows. I've decided I'm gonna go with the 500d for the subs. Whats your setup like?
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Originally posted by mattymatt
I hear alot of good things about alpine. Plus I've had kenwood and jbl products and I think any other brand is better than that. I basically want to keep everything the same brand and it's too late now, I already ordered the subs and a 4 channel amp for the mids and lows. I've decided I'm gonna go with the 500d for the subs. Whats your setup like?
I have polk audio 6 1/2" components for the front, 6x9 components for the rear. 2 Punch Hx2's and a Memphis Studio series 3002(best SQ amp ive ever owned), its a class a/b amp. Pioneer deck. All my favorite stuff
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Wow, is anyone even going to ask what impedance the subs are? Don't say everything is gonna work fine without knowing what hes working with.

You can use an alpine monoblock amp if Type R's you have are dual 2 ohm that way they can be wired parallel-series to 2 ohms. If you have dual 4 ohm subs then you need to run it at 4 ohm mono which is gonna suck *** because your only gonna get 250rms total and 125rms to each sub

As far as power handling from my experience they will take quite a bit.
I installed a 1 12" type r with 700rms in a slot port enclosure and it had no problems.
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OH also if you plan on buying alpine online dont expect alpine to warranty the amp.
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They are 2 ohm. I have one other question, one of the amps requires an 8 gauge power wire and the other requires a 4 guage. Can I just run one 4 guage throughout both the amps or do I have to get different wires for each?
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OK if their dual 2 ohm then your cool with the alpine class d, dont go 2 channel with dual 2 ohm drivers because you wont get squat for power from the amp.

For power wire run 4 guage back to a d-block then run 4 guage to one and 8 guage to the other. Forgot which company makes it but there are a few that have that setup.
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Thanks, you've all been a big help. I appreciate it.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by custom2k1
[B]Wow, is anyone even going to ask what impedance the subs are? Don't say everything is gonna work fine without knowing what hes working with.



Well i think we all know (except you) that Type Rs are DUAL VOICE COILS, meaning you can wire it at 2,4, or even 1 ohm.

You putt 700 watts RMS on this sub? :zbsflag:
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Originally posted by Dizzle
Well i think we all know (except you) that Type Rs are DUAL VOICE COILS, meaning you can wire it at 2,4, or even 1 ohm.
Dude before you post something on here you should learn a little about car audio. You CANNOT make ANY dual voice coil sub produce a 1,2 or 4 ohm impedance.

A dual 4 ohm driver can be wired at 2 ohms or 8 ohms

A dual 2 ohm driver can be wired at 1 ohm or 4 ohms

Thats it! There are no other options!

So once it again it matters alot what ohm DVC Type R's that he has
to run to an amplifier.

Before you come on here trying to bash someone maybe you should learn a couple things. Ohms law would be a great start and Alpines product line would be another.
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One last question. I'm either gonna get the cda-7894 or the cda-7995 head unit because I definately want the mp3 receiver. Since I'm gonna be runnin amps should I go for the 7995 or should I stick with the 7894?
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I have a JBL BP1200.1 wired at 1ohm on a 12" type-r in a slot ported enclosure I wouldn't recommend that much power to those who are heavy on the gains and bass boost though...

About 250-500w is plenty...
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