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Old Jun 8, 2003
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Hey all, like if mentioned before im new to the import scene and dont know much but im trying to learn and understand so bare with me .

I am curious as to what engines fit our cars (i own a 2001 ex). I hear alot about the k20, and when i talk to my friends about it they always mention the b16 and say why dont you get that. I hear some where that the b16 wont work with our cars, and im wondering as to why. And is the k20 a better engine? Hmm i hope i asked the question right. if im not clear on what im asking ill explain better in the morning. 3:00 am here, kinda sleepy.

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You have a "K" series engine, Older civic have "B" series engines. You cant put a round peg in a square hole!
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no one has tried a b16, i am sure it can be done, depend on how much money you have

the first k series swap on the site cost 10k for everything, i think. and it got cheaper and easier as more and more people was doing it.

couple reasons the b series might not work could be
a. 7thgen uses direct ignition, vs distributor
b. returnless fuel system

but i think hasports is working on a b18 swap into the 7thgen...
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A b series should be pretty much a direct bolt in, just some modification to the fuel system, ours is a returnless system and b series have a return line (if this is proper terminology). The K series isn't nessicarily a better motor but it is newer technology. Hasport has a mount kit for the K series to fit into our car, and it's being done more and more each day. Imagine dropping a stock 200hp motor into your civic, then modify it.

You have a "K" series engine, Older civic have "B" series engines. You cant put a round peg in a square hole!
No, our civics have a D series engine, many older civics have D series in them also, B series were in some older civics and integras. The D17 and K20 just became honda's new motors of choice in 2001.
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Sorry, I thought I knew what I was talking about! It sounded good though, huh?
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Originally posted by clownprince
No, our civics have a D series engine, many older civics have D series in them also, B series were in some older civics and integras. The D17 and K20 just became honda's new motors of choice in 2001.
The key is CHASSIS. Certain engines are designed to fit a certain chassis. B-series motors fit in Civic chassis (Integra included) from 1988-2001. I highly doubt a D16 would go into the 7th Gen chassis just because it's a D-block. (And yes, I doubt anyone would do it since it is illegal to have an older engine in a newer car.)
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UNless you can get by emissions, dont bother with a B series. B16 is not the way to go sometimes... many choices.
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Ah thanks guys,i understand alittle bit better now. I love how helpful everyone is. Thanks alot =D
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Originally posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
UNless you can get by emissions, dont bother with a B series. B16 is not the way to go sometimes... many choices.
People should recheck that. Is it really true? I was checking my state's emissions laws, and you can have any combination of vehicle you want, as long as it passes safety inspections and the ACTUAL emissions (gasses). They issue you a new VIN and who the hell knows what would happen to your insurance, but that was the way I read it. I may be wrong.
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A D-series will fit into the 7th gen perfectly fine, provided you make/buy the right mounts. The D-series is, for all size intents and purposes, very similar to the B-series; that's the reason why you can swap any B-series into an EG or EK chassis. So it stands to reason that a B-series would fit into a 7th gen as well.
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Originally posted by Smokie2k2LX
People should recheck that. Is it really true? I was checking my state's emissions laws, and you can have any combination of vehicle you want, as long as it passes safety inspections and the ACTUAL emissions (gasses). They issue you a new VIN and who the hell knows what would happen to your insurance, but that was the way I read it. I may be wrong.
Most states with emissions laws don't allow you to swap an older engine into a newer chassis. But as long as your B16 passes smog and is the same year or newer than your chassis, your're legal.

They don't issue you a new VIN#. You'll just have two different VIN#'s - one for your engine/ECU and one for your chassis.

Your insurance status won't change, unless you tell them you got a new car and choose to insure it at the new (most likely higher) rate.
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i asked my insurance company what would happen if i dropped a k20 in my car. they said insurance would go up cuz it like driving an rsx-s. f*ck geico!!!
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CuRiOuSfIsH : i live in Rockville Centre, its 2 towns over from Valley stream
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Originally posted by Chrissy
i asked my insurance company what would happen if i dropped a k20 in my car. they said insurance would go up cuz it like driving an rsx-s. f*ck geico!!!
Unless you voluntarily tell the insurance company you have a K20 under your hood, there is no way they're going to know. I've been running a K20 engine for a whole year and I still pay $68/month in insurance.
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but when you change insurance, i hear they will personally send a mechanic over to inspect the the engine to see if it has been modified. thats what my friend told me and his insurance got jacked up. he switched to progressive.
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it all depends on wut state you live in, everywhere is different, and some are more strict that others.
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Originally posted by meth
it all depends on wut state you live in, everywhere is different, and some are more strict that others.
yeah, he has a jdm b16a2 in a hatch civic cx... maybe they jacked it up for the damn jdm factor. i would have sexually bribed and blackmailed the mechanic not to tell his whatabouts if i even go along with the swap, or turbo...
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Here in NYC, I know Geico needs the inspection thingy.
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unfortunately my insurance is ridiculous anyway so o well
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