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This is an awesome price for HID, but has anybody seen or used these? I'm really temped to buy em...

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"white lightful brightness is visible"
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you try them first and lemme know. i'll pay the extra 200 for philips.
ps - you cant put them in your car without having a projector housing(not tyc, you need a4,a6, etc)

 
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I don't think I'd ever buy a set of HID's off ebay unless they were name brand (which this is not) and sold by a guy with a really good reputation for selling tons of HID systems.

 
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"white lightful brightness is visible" WTF is that

 
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Thats Japenglish! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

Why would you need a projector housing [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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holly crap HID prices are going down and down, i think HID is the new fad

 
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if you guys think that it is real HID, then you need to do some research. first of all, HID for $200 is too good to be true. if you look closely, you'll see that the bulbs are just halogen bulbs covered with a blue cap of some sort. even the box says "halogen". the electric box that resembles a ballast is simply a voltage booster gadget. this system is similar to the old catz zeta system that gives the bulbs extra current so that it glows brighter, which will reduce the life of the bulbs.

HID's in projectors are always better than reflective housings, that is why you shouldn't put HID in your stock headlights or any headlights that is not designed for HID for that matter - trust me, I learned it the hard way. projectors have a sharper more distinct cutoff line that produces no glare (all of the light is concentrated on the road and not up where you can blind people). i can go on and on about this subject but i guess it's best if you do your own research.

 
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Thanks!

 
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It's a sorry excuse imitation of the real thing. I wouldn't spend a dime on that crap. Get a real conversion kit like what I did. You have to spend $ for something that'll last the life of your car.

 
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"HID's in projectors are always better than reflective housings, that is why you shouldn't put HID in your stock headlights or any headlights that is not designed for HID for that matter - trust me, I learned it the hard way. projectors have a sharper more distinct cutoff line that produces no glare (all of the light is concentrated on the road and not up where you can blind people). i can go on and on about this subject but i guess it's best if you do your own research."

Gotta disagree on that one. If you get HID that's designed for reflector housings, they work just fine. Clear, sharp cut off. You also get the advantage of extra width on the side of the road, which I don't think you get with projectors.

 
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What did you use fot the HID kit? Your light output really sucks ***. I just want to know so I don't go out and buy it.

 
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see thats why you need projectors. just cuz you can afford HID systems, doesnt mean you should put them in a stock housing. thats just stupid. you need a projector housing, like i said from an a6 or an a4. it has to be from a car that already has hid from the factory.

 
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yes, there are HID's designed for reflective housings - lexus IS300, acura TL,CL, etc... but these oem reflectors are designed for use with HIDs. a car that has factory HID option has totally different reflectors than it's halogen counterpart. i use to think that when you choose the HID option, the dealer just swap the halogen bulbs to the HID bulbs and add the ballast. on the contrary, the HID option car has to get new housings to work with the D2S or D2R HID bulbs. so if you want to put HID in your halogen housing, then you'll have to get reflectors from a donor car with HID as a factory option if you want the best output.

projectors put out the best light, that's why mercedes are converting there newer models with projectors. plus with projectors, you get that nice purple/bluish line at the top of the cutoff (you know what i'm talking about when you see a audi or s2000 flicker flashes of purple when they're going on bumpy roads).

for more info on HID's and what to do and what not to do, this is the site to visit.

 
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speaking of projectors from an a6, i'm currently working on a retrofit that uses european E-Code beam pattern a6 projectors. for those that don't know, european projector units have wide beam pattern while american DOT have long range but narrow pattern.

 
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The way I see it, if someone gets aftermarket projectors, they get poor ligiting from halogen, and almost have to concert to HID in order to have sufficient or superior lighting. IMHO a HID h4 conversion in the stock housings is better than that. As for OEM setups, I don't think it would be worth the trouble to retrofit them to a Civix.

That's why I got CATZ HID 4500 K H4 kit and they are everything they are advertised to be. I've used them on some 300 mile night Interstate drives and they make a world of difference from any halogen bulbs. With the right bulb seating and design, I don't think the OEM is going to be cost effective or even that much better. The CATZ system is plenty good enough for me an waay better than stock or aftermarket halogens.

Go to the link and scroll down a little. The pics of the lights shining on the garage door are my CATZ HID installed on my 01 Civic. Or click on Honda Civic for same pic and pic of car with lights on.





CATZ HID ON 01 CIVIC, AND OTHERS

 
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So are you saying the TYC Projectors cant be converted to HID's? Why not? Those things are bad. i was thinking about getting some. But i eventually wanted some HID's also.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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how's your highbeams bartkat? BTW i used to have an osram 4150 kit w/ philips d2s bulbs, but i was never satisfied w/ the beam pattern that looked exactly like yours. The one thing thats gonna really tick you off w/ this conversion that you'll always notice that your beam is more focused on the right and you can't do jack about it. Im planning on doing s2000 projector swaps i've already been keeping in touch w/ a philips lighting forum user to get the bulbs and projector units. IMO direct HiD to halogen housing kits are a huge ripoff and for those that don't want to do the OEM conversion are just lazy.

 
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I got the low beams only, not being convinced that the bulb moving type high beams would be worth it or totally susccesffu. And BTW, your lights are supposed to go more to the right anyway. Ever set up regular lights and note that when going from hi to low, the beam goes down and right? That's partly about oncoming drivers and partly so you can see the road edge and signs better in bad weather. I'm quite happy with what I have, having driven enough with them to know how they are doing. Go on and make your fancy, high tech, shade tree conversions all you want. I'll stick whith what I have and you all purists can continue in the pursuit of excellence.

 
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Once again, I have to say that not all HID kits are created equal.

We now have Hella 90mm projectors coupled with HID. Check it out.

 
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<--- I'm putting Audi S4 projectors into my black halo projectors!

 
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Post a DIY please. Need help doing a conversion myself. Thanks

 
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i still dont understand if i can or cannot put hid's in my TYC projectors

 
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Sure you can. You just can't use the H4's. You just get the HID conversion for the bulb type that your projectors use.

 
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oh ok thanx .... i got scared for a minute