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kamikaze, do you lose less bottom end than with hp?

I heard some people complaning about loseing some bottom end power with the hp header, and I know that long tube headers have a tendency to do that, has any body noticed this with the kamikaze header? I'm thinking beacause it is a shorter style header you may not lose as much. If i am miss informed on any of this please let me know, don't flame just let me know. also I found the kamikaze for $258 shipped anybody know of a better price?
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With any 4-1 Header(where all 4 pipes merge into 1 single pipe) you are gonna lose some low end torque. With a 4-2-1 header(where all 4 pipes merge into 2 and then into 1) you are better off because not as much low end is lost.

From what I hear, not many gains are seen from the shorty header. Kamikaze is supposed to be the best out there. It's better than HP in my mind because you don't have to cut the motor mount to install it.

Where did you find the Kamikaze header for that price?


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Well I hate to say it but it's a guy off of ebay, if you type in kamikaze on ebay motors you'll find the auction, but I emailed him and you are able to just buy it straight up I guess from his shop for $240 plus like 18 for shipping. But I don't know I don't like ebay!
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i thought Kamikaze wasnt a shorty header?
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Yeah, you will lose some power in the low end, but you will definitely notice a difference in the high end. As far as I'm concerned, this is the best performance mod that I have done. You do lose your cat when the Kamikaze header is installed, which helps alot. The cat is one of those parts that restricts air flow drastically.
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can you still have the cat installed also too? can you give me the link to his website?
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unfourtuneatly i have an ex which means i will have to buy a after market cat, because the ex cat is located farther back and is not replaced. But I'm still vary excited, and i wil buy a aftermarket cat soon.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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unfourtuneatly i have an ex which means i will have to buy a after market cat, because the ex cat is located farther back and is not replaced. But I'm still vary excited, and i wil buy a aftermarket cat soon.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG][hr]
Um, i thought that the Kamikaze replaces the cat with a straight pipe? Do you have an emissions test you have to pass or something?



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ya they will do a visual, in my home town were I live now it's no big deal because I know people but i will be transfering from the local college to UT in austin soon, and they are pretty strict in austin.
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ok, well I know NOTHING about headers ... only that they give you the most hp out of the i/h/e combo ...

so Kamikazi headers are the best there is? what about Mugen ... ? or DC?
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I have an 02 Civic Ex and I was thinking about ordering it. So what would I do about my cat. If I ordered it would it come ready to hook up just with no cat?
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I have an 02 Civic Ex and I was thinking about ordering it. So what would I do about my cat. If I ordered it would it come ready to hook up just with no cat?[hr]
Yes, it just replaces the cat. Take that bitch out. It's not like you need it anyways [IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]. Unless you have emissions test.


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I wish someone would do a comparison between the hp race and kam on a dyno or something.

Seems like the hp race design with its long-tube design would produce more top-end power but loose more on the bottom.

I guess the kam has an advantage because you don't have to cut the mount but I don't see how anyone can say that it offers more power than the hp. If anything, I think the only conclusion is that the hp would offer the most power simply because of the design.
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I don't know the word on these kamikaze headers is that they are pretty awsome, and that is comeing form sources i trust that are not evan affilieated with this board.[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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I read somewhere that the kamikaze was dynoed against the DC sports header and the Kamikaze produced 5 more horsepower.
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hmm... is that because the DC sports header doesn't take out the cat? (or does it?)
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I was told that the header for ex models does not replace the cat, because it is located farther down than on lx's. Hey flyriceracer02 I saw on a different message that you want to get a tanabe exhaust, just let you know you can get it at first-1.com for a great price.
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redcivic yea i saw that. I already ordered it for $550 shipped. Oh well. no biggie.
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