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Omg this is rediculous. Yes you have an AEM gauge, but that does not mean it's a wideband! Do you have pics of the actual wideband sensor that came with the flashy gauge? And did you install it? And am I reading right that you just conected this to your STOCK 02 sensor? Please tell me you're joking. I'll look for a post in vehicle problems forum when you need a new 02 sensor because that gauge messed it up. Good luck with that. I think you should be okay tho because usually the check engine light will come on when the sensor fails so you know when you're on3ed.
Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
dont be jealous cuz i got the aem one while you bought the cheap common autometer one. i was just going to buy the autometer one too but decided to get the wideband then this for 100 which is about 50 bucks more than the autometer.
lets see you get the aem gauge for 100$ brand new. Id like to see you try. oops I forgot you dont have hook-ups like me.
lets see you get the aem gauge for 100$ brand new. Id like to see you try. oops I forgot you dont have hook-ups like me.
Complete childish bullsh!t right here.
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Rep Power: 812 I really need to clear up some things so people aren't confused. The actual uego unit should have come with a bosch WIDEBAND sensor which I think you mentioned. This must be installed separately from the primary sensor in the car. Hooking up ANY gauge to the stock sensor will cause it to send the wrong voltage to the ecu and eventually burn out the sensor. This is why there is a sesnor included with the uego gauge, because you have to use it. Yes you have two sensors on your car at the same time. The gauge needs a dedicated sensor to function and keep your stock sensor working.
Now there is a major difference between wideband and narrowband sensors. Narrowband is completely innacurate, which is why all serious tuners go straight for the separate wideband. And as mentioned before, hooking a gauge to your stock sensor will cause it to fail. Now with the wideband SENSOR (not the gauge), you get a much much finer separation of voltage readings. I don't know if you realize how an a/f gauge works, but if you do have the wideband and it's hooked up properly (yours is not), it is only useful for tuning while the throttle is wide open. This is the only time even a wideband sensor can provide an accurate voltage reading. End of story./
Now there is a major difference between wideband and narrowband sensors. Narrowband is completely innacurate, which is why all serious tuners go straight for the separate wideband. And as mentioned before, hooking a gauge to your stock sensor will cause it to fail. Now with the wideband SENSOR (not the gauge), you get a much much finer separation of voltage readings. I don't know if you realize how an a/f gauge works, but if you do have the wideband and it's hooked up properly (yours is not), it is only useful for tuning while the throttle is wide open. This is the only time even a wideband sensor can provide an accurate voltage reading. End of story./
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Rep Power: 289 mine didnt come with sensor. If I wanted the one with the extra sensor it wouldve costed 150 more. I did this because I found the same sensor at auto zone for 50$ saving me a 100$ in the end if I buy em seperately.
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Rep Power: 397 Hey btw, I wasen't complaning about bolt ons, and how does my CAMP unit have to do with bolt ons. Once again you've mistaken info... noob, ibtl
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
Hey btw, I wasen't complaning about bolt ons, and how does my CAMP unit have to do with bolt ons. Once again you've mistaken info... noob, ibtl
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Rep Power: 397 ^^omfg hahahahahahahha would someone like to prove this to me, adn Redline bro, everyones gonan be on my side for this one, go ahead, ask em 
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Rep Power: 289 ok nvm it wasnt you so disregard that whole thread about bolt-ons. i couldve sworn it was u. anyways I dont rely on people like you. so i dont care if other people are on your side big deal.
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Rep Power: 0 redline, if i were u, i would go out to buy that wideband sensor now and install it so this thread can end in peace....
(assuming your gauge really works with a wb sensor)
(assuming your gauge really works with a wb sensor)
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Please look at these two charts. This is what differentiates a "wideband" from a "narrowband."
Note how the wideband output is LINEAR. This makes pinpointing the exact ratio extremlely precise. You cannot do this on a narrowband as the readings are the same up to and almost at 14.7:1. A narrowband sensor will usually have 1, 3, or 4 wires. A wideband will almost always have 5 or 6. The Bosch and NGK are the two main sensors, however there are more than those two. Lets not start an autometer vs AEM debate, as this is NOT the time or place, and there are both good arguements for both sides.
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Note how the wideband output is LINEAR. This makes pinpointing the exact ratio extremlely precise. You cannot do this on a narrowband as the readings are the same up to and almost at 14.7:1. A narrowband sensor will usually have 1, 3, or 4 wires. A wideband will almost always have 5 or 6. The Bosch and NGK are the two main sensors, however there are more than those two. Lets not start an autometer vs AEM debate, as this is NOT the time or place, and there are both good arguements for both sides.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
ok nvm it wasnt you so disregard that whole thread about bolt-ons. i couldve sworn it was u. anyways I dont rely on people like you. so i dont care if other people are on your side big deal.
UGH....
Let me set some info straight so everyone is on the same page. AEM sells 2 different types of gauges that have the AFR face.
One is a total UEGO soultion. It includes the UEGO sensor & harness. The gauge has the UEGO controller built into it. Everything you need is included in the box.
The second is a UEGO display for the earlier UEGO controllers that came without a display. It takes the AEM UEGO 0-5v calibrated output from either the 30-2300 or 30-2301 UEGO controllers and displays it correctly on the gauge.
AEM does not make a narrow band AFR gauge.
AEM does does not make or sell any UEGO controller that does not include the sensor.
I dont know what the guy who started this thread has. It doesn't make sense to me.
Let me set some info straight so everyone is on the same page. AEM sells 2 different types of gauges that have the AFR face.
One is a total UEGO soultion. It includes the UEGO sensor & harness. The gauge has the UEGO controller built into it. Everything you need is included in the box.
The second is a UEGO display for the earlier UEGO controllers that came without a display. It takes the AEM UEGO 0-5v calibrated output from either the 30-2300 or 30-2301 UEGO controllers and displays it correctly on the gauge.
AEM does not make a narrow band AFR gauge.
AEM does does not make or sell any UEGO controller that does not include the sensor.
I dont know what the guy who started this thread has. It doesn't make sense to me.
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