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Old Jul 19, 2003
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Hey what's up guys? I have a question when your on a hill going up with a m/t how do yall do it so that the car doesn't roll back, and hit the person behind you? I'am learning to drive a stick and i am having trouble whit this task.

any help is appreciated, and any other helpful hints that yall may know.
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Old Jul 19, 2003
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Find a hill in a housing addition and practice.

In the meantime, you can slightly pull up on the E-brake (keep the button pressed) as release it as the car begins to go forward.
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yeh i wonder this too.
but the best i think is to practice and feel it(timing) and make it yours.

hm..i got another question.
if i accidently roll back and hit the car behind, then who's fault is it?
is it still car in the back since he didnt keep a safe distance?
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Just practice.
Another thing I do is when I stop on a hill and notice another car coming up, I will roll my car back a little bit so they know not to kiss my *** and leave room for me in case I do roll back, but usually I only roll back a couple inches. Just practice.
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Like everyone else said...practice. Even experienced manual drivers will roll. The goal is simply to not roll as much. Not sure about the "who's at fault" question but I'm guessing it would be the guy in back.
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A schoolmate's mom taught me to drive standard years ago, and we spent a lot of time on the "hill trick", as she called it. We drove around in an empty parking lot for awhile until I got the hang of 1st-2nd, then we tackled one of the entrances to the parking lot - a fairly steep ramp.

Of course I killed the engine several times and rolled back, but eventually she coached me to the point that I could "hold" just using the gas and clutch - no brake. It's a balancing act...and everyone is correct - you just have to practice. The emergency brake idea works well, too -- especially when backing out of a really steeply-inclined parking space.

You'll get it, don't worry -- Good luck!
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Yep, practice...sometimes i hold it in gear just enough to keep me rolling and not roll foward that way i dont have to push the clutch in and break....

Really what it is, is getting used to giving a lil gas after taking your foot of the break and letting the clutch go slowly...dont push too hard then your gonna rock. So not too fast not too slow(roll back) just smoothly..finess (yea i just said finess)
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hehe ... just give it more gas than normal. Not an excessive amount though, or you'll peel out
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Mad hill taking off skillz comes from pratice like everyone else said. Just learn the exact point where your clutch releases at then go from there. You will get it no prob.
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on hills i usually just hold the clutch rite on engagement with just a lil bit of gas so that its enuff gas and clutch to keep from rolling back and not to inch forward.
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keeping it in gear by balancing the amount of clutch depressed and gas... will do the trick too... depending on the incline level of the hill.

everyone said it already so no point repeating.

if you're not sure about yourself, just apply the e-brake.

if you are going to give more gas than normal, you'll need to apply the same amount of necessary clutch.

I usually apply the e-brake if I'm on a steep enough hill, and I have more than 2 passengers... the extra weight really takes a toll on the torqueless wonder, and I'm going against gravity too.
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True. . on the real bit*h ones. . I use the e-brake. . On some hills if I don't have to come to a complete stop (ie. right turn). Then I just don't stop . . I keep going. Most of the time though. . I'm quick enough to get off the brake and on the gas right away to avoid the roll back. . A few inch roll back is ok, but anything more, you better make sure there isn't a car behind you.
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if u hold the clutch at the right spot, the car doesnt move back...i dont think thats good for the car tho, just use the ebrake untill u get the hang of it
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i work with local Police Dept. being you are the vehickle in motion, and you roll back on them, it would be your fault. you are susposed to be in control of your vehicle at all times, this includes rollback.
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pretty much what everyone else said practice makes perfect it took me a while to get it right but its not hard once you get it down. when you get good you can sit on a hill without breaks at all, just holding it at the clutch point. As to roll back into another car. it depends where you are. I'm pretty sure here in texas its not your fault.
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JUST BURN RUBBER!!!
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if u hold the clutch at the right spot, the car doesnt move back...i dont think thats good for the car tho, just use the ebrake untill u get the hang of it
Its not good for your car? is this true? Not even for the slight inclined hills?
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Originally posted by JCiv03
Its not good for your car? is this true? Not even for the slight inclined hills?
correct its not good for your car think about it, the clutch is engaged but not compleatly and the engine is reving slightly depending on the hil.l so the clutch is rubing causeing premature wear on the clutch
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You should use your e-brake. Just like you were supposed to do for your drivers exam.
Its really easy - you don't always need your hand on the shifter, just hold the e-brake up while pushing the button in.

Otherwise you'll cook your clutch and that wouldn't be good...

unless you like the smell or something kinky like that - heheh.

If you're having trouble still, drivers-ed books should be available for free @ your local DMV and they explain the procedure in detail.
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correct its not good for your car think about it, the clutch is engaged but not compleatly and the engine is reving slightly depending on the hil.l so the clutch is rubing causeing premature wear on the clutch
so i should just add a little gas?
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PRACTICE. it can't be said enough... for steep hills and learning, use the e-brake





Originally posted by JCiv03
so i should just add a little gas?
NO, you should use you brake till it's time to go!!! you're eating through your clutch, foo!!!!
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ok, here's my take on it. (And how my dad told me to do it).

Friction zone! thats what you have to learn. where the clutch starts to press on the fly wheel and transfer power to the transmission.

heres what you do.

GO to a flat parking lot.
put the car in 1st gear with the engine on.
now with out pressing the brake or gas, slowly (Very) relece the clutch whatch the Tachometer (RPM's).
there will be a point where you will see the RPM's start to drop and the car starts to want to move forward. thats the friction zone (you'll probably end up stalling a couple of times).

How you use this on hills is simple.

when your on a hill, with the brake on and clutch in, slowly releace the clutch. when the RPM's start to drop, you know that the engine is applying power to the wheels. So, at that point you can relece the brake (Yes the car will roll back, but not as much as if you had the clutch totaly in) and apply a litte gas. then using the gas and clutch you should be able to stop the car form rolling back. at that point you can accelerate from a stop no problem.

thats how I learned, now no hill scares me. on a side note, this does wear on the clutch/fllywheel a bit. so only do it when you are ready to start moving. (Don't sit at a light for 3 min doing it)

Oh ya, I have never once ever used my E-brake to help me on a hill.
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Originally posted by jugadro
You should use your e-brake. Just like you were supposed to do for your drivers exam.
Its really easy - you don't always need your hand on the shifter, just hold the e-brake up while pushing the button in.

Otherwise you'll cook your clutch and that wouldn't be good...

unless you like the smell or something kinky like that - heheh.

If you're having trouble still, drivers-ed books should be available for free @ your local DMV and they explain the procedure in detail.
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