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new spare key made wont start car
I had a new key made for a switch blade key fob for an '01. It fits the ign. switch, turns and cranks the car but the engine won't fire. It will not open either door or trunk. Has anyone experienced anything like this?
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Ignition keys have a chip that need to be programmed for the engine.
Dealerships don't program aftermarket keys.
140$ for an ignition key.
But wait, a new ignition with key programmed costs 260$ from online parts warehouses.
Is it worth to get a ignition key or new ignition?
Keys for doors don't require the chips.
There is a bypass where you remove this security feature of the car but that means your car will be much easier to steal!
Meaning you only need the key with no chip needed what so ever.
Dealerships don't program aftermarket keys.
140$ for an ignition key.
But wait, a new ignition with key programmed costs 260$ from online parts warehouses.
Is it worth to get a ignition key or new ignition?
Keys for doors don't require the chips.
There is a bypass where you remove this security feature of the car but that means your car will be much easier to steal!
Meaning you only need the key with no chip needed what so ever.
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Ignition keys have a chip that need to be programmed for the engine.
Dealerships don't program aftermarket keys.
140$ for an ignition key.
But wait, a new ignition with key programmed costs 260$ from online parts warehouses.
Is it worth to get a ignition key or new ignition?
Keys for doors don't require the chips.
There is a bypass where you remove this security feature of the car but that means your car will be much easier to steal!
Meaning you only need the key with no chip needed what so ever.
Dealerships don't program aftermarket keys.
140$ for an ignition key.
But wait, a new ignition with key programmed costs 260$ from online parts warehouses.
Is it worth to get a ignition key or new ignition?
Keys for doors don't require the chips.
There is a bypass where you remove this security feature of the car but that means your car will be much easier to steal!
Meaning you only need the key with no chip needed what so ever.
"handle"?
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RFID (transponder) chip is embedded in the plastic head of the key.
Gotta get the key (chip) programmed to the immobilizer and PCM before they can allow that key to run the engine.
If you got a switchblade, you might need the chip from a working key transplanted into the housing of the switchblade, as the chip that came in the housing may not be compatible?
Did you have a single key that worked in all the locks.....ignition, doors and trunk, etc.?
Gotta get the key (chip) programmed to the immobilizer and PCM before they can allow that key to run the engine.
If you got a switchblade, you might need the chip from a working key transplanted into the housing of the switchblade, as the chip that came in the housing may not be compatible?
Did you have a single key that worked in all the locks.....ignition, doors and trunk, etc.?
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RFID (transponder) chip is embedded in the plastic head of the key.
Gotta get the key (chip) programmed to the immobilizer and PCM before they can allow that key to run the engine.
If you got a switchblade, you might need the chip from a working key transplanted into the housing of the switchblade, as the chip that came in the housing may not be compatible?
Did you have a single key that worked in all the locks.....ignition, doors and trunk, etc.?
Gotta get the key (chip) programmed to the immobilizer and PCM before they can allow that key to run the engine.
If you got a switchblade, you might need the chip from a working key transplanted into the housing of the switchblade, as the chip that came in the housing may not be compatible?
Did you have a single key that worked in all the locks.....ignition, doors and trunk, etc.?
I was under the impression that those years didn't have the chip in the keys.
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Yes, 2 original keys came with the car but no remotes.
A fresh cut key may not easily work locks with worn tumblers. The freshly cut sharp edges could hang up or maybe the lock tumblers have so much wear they need correspondingly worn keys to work them.
If the locks have never worked for you, maybe they are just stuck from lack of use. Try shooting some penetrating oil into the lock cylinders?
I was under the impression that those years didn't have the chip in the keys.
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Yeah but did any ONE key turn all the locks in the car?
A fresh cut key may not easily work locks with worn tumblers. The freshly cut sharp edges could hang up or maybe the lock tumblers have so much wear they need correspondingly worn keys to work them.
If the locks have never worked for you, maybe they are just stuck from lack of use. Try shooting some penetrating oil into the lock cylinders?
01 was the first year for Civic to have Immobilizer in the US.
A fresh cut key may not easily work locks with worn tumblers. The freshly cut sharp edges could hang up or maybe the lock tumblers have so much wear they need correspondingly worn keys to work them.
If the locks have never worked for you, maybe they are just stuck from lack of use. Try shooting some penetrating oil into the lock cylinders?
01 was the first year for Civic to have Immobilizer in the US.
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Both keys I have are masters and they work all locks.
I can't imagine any reason other than electrical that the car would crank but not start.
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Ok and your new key won't turn the doors or trunk.. Was the new key cut by code or was it duplicated off of an original key? I'm guessing it was cut by code.
That's the immobilizer action. While you are cranking it with the unprogrammed key, the green key symbol on the dash should be flashing angrily because it's in anti-theft mode.
That's the immobilizer action. While you are cranking it with the unprogrammed key, the green key symbol on the dash should be flashing angrily because it's in anti-theft mode.
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Take it back to the one who cut the key and have them see why it doesn't work?
Use a wire brush to soften the sharp edges a little?
Use a wire brush to soften the sharp edges a little?
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Does the switchblade body have a chip already installed in it?
Can that be programmed to your car?
The car uses a Type 3 Immobilizer system, which Immobilizer type was the switchblade key made for? Or what car did it fit? (I don't have access to Acuras information)
Options I can think of, but I can't tell you what's immediately available to you:
I could obtain a key with a chip, cut out the chip and transfer it to the switchblade body, then program it to the car. This might be tedious as you'd have to grind away the plastic head to find and remove the chip without damaging it.
I could locate a dealer or locksmith that has the Ilco Key duplicating equipment (for T-5 transponder keys), "clone" the chip of a working key, then cut out the chip and transfer it.
I could search the internet for someone selling the needed chip by itself, then install that into the switchblade body then program it to the car.
Or search for just the cloneable chip for the T-5 key mentioned above, have a dealer clone it off a good key and install it.
For programming keys to the car, I'd expect anywhere from 50-120 at a dealer. It varies. Call and ask.
Cost to clone a T-5 chip key off a working key should be considerably cheaper than cutting and programming new keys to the car.
Check with local locksmith shops, see if they can program Hondas immobilizer keys.
Maybe they can get the needed chip by itself and program it.
Walmart and some other box stores might be able to clone the chip keys too, so ask around.
If you can clone a chip key for just a few bucks then it may be worth seeing if you can extract the chip out of it without damage.
You could stuff a working chip key in the steering column covers by the immobi receiver, so the immobilizer system always reads a valid key chip no matter what you stick in the ignition. Theft risk goes up though.
Can that be programmed to your car?
The car uses a Type 3 Immobilizer system, which Immobilizer type was the switchblade key made for? Or what car did it fit? (I don't have access to Acuras information)
Options I can think of, but I can't tell you what's immediately available to you:
I could obtain a key with a chip, cut out the chip and transfer it to the switchblade body, then program it to the car. This might be tedious as you'd have to grind away the plastic head to find and remove the chip without damaging it.
I could locate a dealer or locksmith that has the Ilco Key duplicating equipment (for T-5 transponder keys), "clone" the chip of a working key, then cut out the chip and transfer it.
I could search the internet for someone selling the needed chip by itself, then install that into the switchblade body then program it to the car.
Or search for just the cloneable chip for the T-5 key mentioned above, have a dealer clone it off a good key and install it.
For programming keys to the car, I'd expect anywhere from 50-120 at a dealer. It varies. Call and ask.
Cost to clone a T-5 chip key off a working key should be considerably cheaper than cutting and programming new keys to the car.
Check with local locksmith shops, see if they can program Hondas immobilizer keys.
Maybe they can get the needed chip by itself and program it.
Walmart and some other box stores might be able to clone the chip keys too, so ask around.
If you can clone a chip key for just a few bucks then it may be worth seeing if you can extract the chip out of it without damage.
You could stuff a working chip key in the steering column covers by the immobi receiver, so the immobilizer system always reads a valid key chip no matter what you stick in the ignition. Theft risk goes up though.
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Does the switchblade body have a chip already installed in it?
Can that be programmed to your car?
The car uses a Type 3 Immobilizer system, which Immobilizer type was the switchblade key made for? Or what car did it fit? (I don't have access to Acuras information)
Options I can think of, but I can't tell you what's immediately available to you:
I could obtain a key with a chip, cut out the chip and transfer it to the switchblade body, then program it to the car. This might be tedious as you'd have to grind away the plastic head to find and remove the chip without damaging it.
I could locate a dealer or locksmith that has the Ilco Key duplicating equipment (for T-5 transponder keys), "clone" the chip of a working key, then cut out the chip and transfer it.
I could search the internet for someone selling the needed chip by itself, then install that into the switchblade body then program it to the car.
Or search for just the cloneable chip for the T-5 key mentioned above, have a dealer clone it off a good key and install it.
For programming keys to the car, I'd expect anywhere from 50-120 at a dealer. It varies. Call and ask.
Cost to clone a T-5 chip key off a working key should be considerably cheaper than cutting and programming new keys to the car.
Check with local locksmith shops, see if they can program Hondas immobilizer keys.
Maybe they can get the needed chip by itself and program it.
Walmart and some other box stores might be able to clone the chip keys too, so ask around.
If you can clone a chip key for just a few bucks then it may be worth seeing if you can extract the chip out of it without damage.
You could stuff a working chip key in the steering column covers by the immobi receiver, so the immobilizer system always reads a valid key chip no matter what you stick in the ignition. Theft risk goes up though.
Can that be programmed to your car?
The car uses a Type 3 Immobilizer system, which Immobilizer type was the switchblade key made for? Or what car did it fit? (I don't have access to Acuras information)
Options I can think of, but I can't tell you what's immediately available to you:
I could obtain a key with a chip, cut out the chip and transfer it to the switchblade body, then program it to the car. This might be tedious as you'd have to grind away the plastic head to find and remove the chip without damaging it.
I could locate a dealer or locksmith that has the Ilco Key duplicating equipment (for T-5 transponder keys), "clone" the chip of a working key, then cut out the chip and transfer it.
I could search the internet for someone selling the needed chip by itself, then install that into the switchblade body then program it to the car.
Or search for just the cloneable chip for the T-5 key mentioned above, have a dealer clone it off a good key and install it.
For programming keys to the car, I'd expect anywhere from 50-120 at a dealer. It varies. Call and ask.
Cost to clone a T-5 chip key off a working key should be considerably cheaper than cutting and programming new keys to the car.
Check with local locksmith shops, see if they can program Hondas immobilizer keys.
Maybe they can get the needed chip by itself and program it.
Walmart and some other box stores might be able to clone the chip keys too, so ask around.
If you can clone a chip key for just a few bucks then it may be worth seeing if you can extract the chip out of it without damage.
You could stuff a working chip key in the steering column covers by the immobi receiver, so the immobilizer system always reads a valid key chip no matter what you stick in the ignition. Theft risk goes up though.
So the chip is a rf signal of some sort? I tried holding the original key next to the switchblade while trying to start it... didn't work.
I had called the dealer and they quoted $115 for just the fob. I never did ask about a key.
I'm starting to think I should have just stuck with the remote for $18 and called it a day. The switchblade was just me trying to be cheeky.
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So the chip is a rf signal of some sort?
The antenna (ring) on the control unit inside the steering column excites the chip inside the head of the stock key and that causes it to send a signal.
Key head needs to be near the middle of the antenna ring to work.
I had called the dealer and they quoted $115 for just the fob. I never did ask about a key.
I know I've seen a how-to for making a switchblade key work, maybe it wasn't on this forum though. I don't remember. Google?
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RFID or Transponder.
The antenna (ring) on the control unit inside the steering column excites the chip inside the head of the stock key and that causes it to send a signal.
Key head needs to be near the middle of the antenna ring to work.
The fob for the stock keyless entry? Seems high.
I know I've seen a how-to for making a switchblade key work, maybe it wasn't on this forum though. I don't remember. Google?
The antenna (ring) on the control unit inside the steering column excites the chip inside the head of the stock key and that causes it to send a signal.
Key head needs to be near the middle of the antenna ring to work.
The fob for the stock keyless entry? Seems high.
I know I've seen a how-to for making a switchblade key work, maybe it wasn't on this forum though. I don't remember. Google?
I'll have to check again. I only remember seeing how to swap out the key blade.
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You'll only find a private car shop, if any.
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